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Well today is the day we have all been looking forward to or fearing ?.I am trying to work out from now on, what my profit/loss in either companies is going forward .Has anyone got a figure what the Haleon company split was worth in terms of the previous whole GSK company ?.For instance are my new Haleon shares worth say 40% of the old company pre split or only 30% of the old company etc.Just wondered if there was ever a percentage figure mentioned?

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Yes Richtips your dad did well, I woz there as Max Boyce used to say , I waited until 30p to buy I was not sure if TW and a lot of other shares as well were going to the wall ? I loaded up on Lloyds as well but that share has been a big disappointment & Government controlled share in my opinion since the Banking crisis with massive interference to pay out on PPI & with holding dividends,That is my biggest plus about LGEN as they told I believe HMG too get stuffed and paid out like the US Banks and US Oilers during covid.

Well velindre any price where you make a profit can be a good price , and I am sure you realise this is a better bet in terms of decent dividends after the shell divi got more than halved in 2020.You wont make big increases in share price value here though in my opinion but she looks AT THE MOMENT a safe divi earner .I would dip in anywhere between 230-260 but if Covid2 comes along a far lower price may be possible who knows ? I remember TW one of the builders at 3p once during the banking crisis etc .If you find a crystal ball let me know please.

Not the greatest fan of the split in the first place but if it is what it is .My main question is why have they taken so long and put share holders and the SP itself thru so much pain in getting on with it the over hang has been years in all the talk.The only plus was the continuing 80p divi, I still fail to see why the new 55p divi in total makes it such a good idea in the Dames eyes ? or will all the board be even bigger Millionaires after this ?

I do think TW provides a good buying opportunity now , despite the Special Dividend probably being lost or forgotten about for a while its still a good divi at these prices.My biggest concern here is not the rather meagre interest rate rises which I do honestly think are being over catastrophized by the media for political reasons, but really Gove and his possible plans to tax etc builders like , Oilers and banks in the past to fund the economy free of charge for HMG so they look good in the eyes of the media..

I think you will find it was the 1973 oil crisis when the Middle East started to flex its muscles on oil prices and its been doing so ever since. Anyway everyone should have a wok in the house or garden daughter in law swears by it, and the good news is LGEN is bouncing back up in its range once more .Have a good week everyone .

I assume SD235 you are still deep in with the oilers ? have as good day at least the sun is shinning .

Started to drip feed in my old oilers money now, hopefully the recent big sell off on the FTSE will be considered over done ? , kept half my war chest in reserve in case im wrong as hind site is always a perfect science..

We need minimum 5% interest rates to get inflation down Now ! the BOE Gov is a discrace to his office. BTW those lucky enough (Not Me) to work for banks in 80's 90's etc then got special low mortgage rates around 5% .They were well chuffed and felt very lucky wonder what the headlines will make of 5% interest rates now !, there is an old well known saying which is not used now on Wok news and its quite simple, the world DOES NOT owe you a living !!! or the latest I-phone or BMW come to that.Have a good weekend everyone and hopefully higher rates will move this share price up ! it was far higher when we had no dividends and the Gov still owning shares .

I am showing my age here but I remember 15% interest rates and the then Tory chancellor saying if it aint working it aint working and unemployemnt is the price worth paying. Back then it seemed if you took out a mortgage or loan you were considered an adult and if times got hard you tightened your belt and cut back as required as sh*t happens in life. .Back then we did not have constant headlines about cost of living crisis every day brain washing people like now making out its all the gov fault not their poor budgeting..Now it seems if anything effects peoples holidays, mortgages or irresponsible loans etc etc they have taken out to buy their Suv Mercs and BMW's which they dont NEED its all the governments fault not theirs and somebody else must help them. What happened to personal responsibility ?.My first flat had an old black and white TV as the licence was cheaper no land line phone no microwave , video recorders etc etc etc & second hand furniture.Point was if I could not pay cash for it I could not afford it and just made do.Now its buy now and blame everybody and anybody else when you cant pay it off.I do wonder at the double standards recently on the news , you have Catastrophic 0.25% interest rate rise causing catastrophic cost of living crisis !!! and then the next news item is thousands of holiday makers moaning about cancelled flights. If they were skint they would not be going on holiday !!! lets be honest the cost of thir airport parking , I-phones and sky subscription is far hight than any .25% interest rate rise will ver be its a joke. In a nut shell if you cant afford it outright dont bloody buy it and consider yourselves lucky interest rates are only 1.25% I would of killed for that back in the 1980/90's.

Well at least the yank oilers continue to pay full dividends and continued to pay full divis during covid to their share holders that is the rub with BP and shell and there major very big weakness going forward. .I accept Biden is now rumoured to be looking at clobbering US Oilers but I think he will want to clobber BP and Shell as well in the US market so BP and Shell will be on the ropes .I dont want to dwell on oilers but their days in my humble opinion are over as good divi payers for as long as Wok issues are in control at board level .Why would anybody invest say £10k now and only get half the dividends he would of got at Dec 2019 ? he wont he will go elsewhere end of . .Does not matter what the oil price is now does not matter how much profit BP and shell make now or the future .If the CEO's wont or are not allowed to by HMG and the wok media to pay out historic dividend levels investors will think twice and sell. They want a solid decent income not warm feelings about green issues and its the same with LGEN investors here . Im guessing we all want a decent dividend and would not be very happy if they halved the divi over night to fund suddenly a HMG Green agenda ?..Anyway much more importantly do we think LGEN will bounce up on Monday ?.

Well she came back down this afternoon as I thought but not as much as I wanted or as much as other shares !. I feel sorry for the oiler share holders this week but cant say im surprised as the writing was on the wall as soon as HMG got involved. Do we think the Wok media will ask the government now to support Shell and BP share holders ??. With dividends cut by 50% and all the green pressures on the companies sucking up any profits not taxed by HMG ? the companies are only half as attractive as they were in 2019. Anyway that's history for me wont mention oilers again, its what this Lady does now that really interest me.. Still keeping me powder dry here will probably dip me toes in next week once I can get a sense of the sentiment of the FTSE on LGEN.

Shes up a bit today but the yanks have a habit of smashing things down in the afternoon especially on a Friday too lock in profits.As people say you pays your money and takes your choice, I sat on my hands at 8am hopefully I will get a reasonable entry in the next week .Life is too short to stare at a screen all day , the divi implications are not huge with a few shares either way . I have learned to listen to my head and not my heart now I have to learn some patience , my wife def says that is not my strongest suite ! .Good luck everyone on here, the suns out its a nice day time to get in the garden, I will pop back at 4pm and see whats happening to LGEN. I could set a automatic buy order I suppose but I like to be there when I spend my money although thats never stopped the wife.

My brokers did me a favour for once ! by taking a while to pay me out after selling the last of my Oilers last week at a small profit . Now the really hard part I just have to pick the right entry point before ex divi date. How low can she go and how hard can this be ? I think I will certainly wait for the Friday afternoon sell off that usually happens, I think maybe dripping back in over the coming weeks might make more sense before ex divi as nobody can guess the bottom exactly although 220-230 ish will get me tempted .Anybody got any views on where this roller coaster ride will end up ? , factoring out Covid she does not drift that much in my opinion over the years .

No not gone still very much alive and kicking ! .Having sold BP and Shell I still have to put the money somewhere ?, im retired hence my annoyance at Shell etc going all wokey and cutting the dividend as I only buy shares for decent dividends etc and dont want to be Day trading .I think we have entered more turbulent times and one does have to dust off the share certificates sometimes now and question if they are working for you or loosing you money.?I think LGEN is a better bet than oilers now but if things change here I will sell LGEN I am not going to get attached to shares anymore.

I have started a new discipline of listening to my head rather than my heart recently and sold my Shell shares Thursday morning.Sold all my bP a few weeks ago also all at a small profit. .I have to say I am quite pleased for once in my timing as all the markets have crashed since. I have to wait for my funds to be sent from my broker but I had intended putting £30k in here once I sold so the lower LGEN goes in the next week or so is fine by me .Saying that I DO think LGEN will be a better divi payer and a nice boring steady share compared to oilers since this green wok nonsense and new Gov taxes have kicked in .I loved my Shell shares but the days of never sell shell are well over since the Green nutters took over from common sense. .Have a good weekend and lets hope for a nice bounce back here in 2 weeks.

Dont want to be party political but not sure if Boris's chat about selling property to people on benefits will help TW at all ?.Thatcher sold all the nations silver with Council houses and utilities etc back in the 80's feel boris is desperate to sell something to win an election but there is nothing left to asset strip ?.If TW can win big contracts to build affordable housing etc thats good news but we hear year after year we need more houses and then Builders get clobbered by Gove on a Woki witch hunt over Grenfill towers u cant make it up.. If Politicians stayed out of business I think the world and this country would run a lot better and TW SP would be well over 200 by now.? Heres hoping for some common sense joined up decison making in the next few years over housing.

Although IMB got a kicking today on the back of the wok HMG smoking report, later on today most shares in the FTSE also fell badly , I know it does not help in the long run but makes me feel a little bit better , same as shouting at the news when the Smoking report came on .Anyway lets hope we get the over sold bounce back tomorrow,.

I sold this morning at 2449.176 rather big spread was expecting 2450 , would of liked 2500+ but a profit is a profit is a profit and hind site is a perfect science.Good luck all hope u get your target prices , in my opinion the amount of bad news and oil price increases needed to move this up much more would cause major world problems and nobody would benefit in the long run.Bye All .