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I can accept shares will go up and down over international and local events , ex dividend dates, payment dates, interest rates, Ceo's and Chairmans caught having affairs etc etc but this share has me confused more than most .From what I see and read daily about on going wars and world events this share should be rising up like RR etc has done over the past few years.Apart from Trumps tariffs which I believe are negated by BAE producing within the USA etc I cant see why she has dropped over 4% recently ?

I was expecting a healthy 5-10% jump in SP with all the good news around for BAE, new sales and growth ,Vehicle sales , 3 new Ammunition sites , new explosive technology etc etc, not to mention all the political promises to spend more on defence yet she goes down more often than not on good news ?.To me it makes no sense I will just toss a coin in future before buying etc it makes just as much sense to me.

With all these so called experts and brokers saying this share is worth at least 500-550 at least especially with the current world tensions it concerns me she struggles to even maintain 400 .I know the take over has died down but I would expect a bit more love and enthusiasm for defence related stocks now in the market . .BAE is not exactly setting the world alight either with current government spending commitments on defense .RR seems to be the only real golden girl with massive sp increase over the last few years .Is it a case of buy on rumours sell on the news and defence stocks are now old news and will just bimble along again once more .?

Well every time she goes down again I will have a moan and hopefully she will pull out of the deep dive like today ..I also wish the nanny state would stop moaning so much about smokers , yes its bad for your health etc etc, but everything I like is apparently bad for me , something will kill me one day , hopefully it will be madam whip lash.. one should have personal choice .Booze causes much more social problems such as assaults , public order, domestic abuse etc etc every weekend yet almost gets a clean bill of health , no mileage for private members bills and show boating in parliament over banning young people from ever buying alcohol , all the drinkers in the House of Commons/Lords would also take a dim view of gov interference which would not do old boy, just tax and control the great unwashed.

Well she is coming back up today again which is good, , im in long term and she does not give me many sleepless nights compared to some of my picks, I just get annoyed some times when one cant see any bad news or worse still the news is good and shares still fall, think we are all just pawns in a bigger picture of market manipulation to line peoples pockets.

Trading update did not look that bad too me today, not that there ever is any real rational reasons sometimes for big ups and downs in SP's , but does anyone understand why we have dropped afair bit today was the update that bad ????

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I hope our Rachel in accounts has made it clear that the UK tax payers expect any loans & aid to be spent on UK supplied arms equipment and services etc etc , Trump certainly would expect US goods to be purchased I often feel the UK is a soft touch when it comes to aid etc .

After the last spat in the white house lets hope trump does not give everyone 50% tariff to make himself feel better for 5 minutes.,If it was not so serious for Ukraine and Europe it would be funny last nights spat, but many will die now and I'm concerned for the UK and my own sons being drawn into a war by staunch Remainer Sir Starmer KC & his ego and drive too get us back headlong into Europe.

Is anyone else on here as old as me and can remember the spitting image puppet satire on Ronald Reagan and how the story line every week was 'The presidents brain is missing !!!

I can think of another one who keeps dishing out Tariffs like confetti against china thinking his own people wont be paying the extra costs in their own purchases you cant make it up.GLA only 4 more years to the next crazy one.

Well thanks for that and I dont wish RR share holder ill but the sp does not make mathematical sense after the past RI by RR and dilution as a consequence and no divi even being paid ! BAE even pay a divi now although I will accept its not that generous .RR seems it can do no wrong and the civil aviation industry can be very vulnerable to world events and even Icelandic volcanoes. Call me jealous but it does look like a bubble waiting too burst , mind you would be nice if BAE got even close to half a bubble, think we have a perm slow leak somewhere .Best we can hope for is being sold off to the US, Doubt politicians will care about the UK security and national interest when brown envelopes and directorships on future boards are at stake. Fingers crossed BAE will benefit from all the sabre rattling and that the UK is not required to get involved for real in more senseless wars..

I still think long term this share has legs but its still 2 steps forward and 1.5 back every time the sp goes up. Yet RR is up 2 % again today on the same defence news.is it all in the brand name ?

I am old, wise and poor enough to know there is no such thing as a certain share to buy etc. But BAE with current world political problems and Trumps latest decisions on Ukraine and Europe etc should if there was any logic make this share fly .I still don't understand why RR rocketed up beyond any logical reason despite a lot of SP dilution in recent years whilst BAE just bumbles along know matter how good the news is re new defence contracts and EU government spending requirements .

I have never believed the UK has ever had a special relationship with the US etc etc unless it benefited the USA first .Now we have total hypocrisy with trump moaning merry hell about the balance of payments deficit with China and then American politicians still moaning they are exporting billions of dollars of copper to China !!! they are still not happy for gods sake , if it was a US firm and not RIO would it be any different I wonder ?, will trump be getting out his black colouring pen and signing another executive order I wonder ?

took a position in this share recently thinking the worse was over but nope down she goes , so i apologise for the recent fall probably my fault . i like sin stocks my ***s with imb have made me a lot of money hopefully trump wont screw this up even more with tariffs etc ..the world is changing however, neither of my sons and daughter in law drink ,when we go out my wife and i feel like alcoholics just having a glass of wine and a budweiser etc .diageo just need to give people what they want in 2025 , if they want to pay thru the nose for bottled water, alcohol free drinks etc etc then just sell it to them !!! its not difficult , being precious about brands wont work in the long run. customers world wide will still want guiness, spirits and alchohol free and soft drinks etc , diageo just need to work out the ratios and reinvent itself for the 21st century not the smoke filled dens i staggered out of in the 1970's !!! mind you i know where i still would rather be.!!!

I seem to have a knack of picking shares that never seem to follow logic, World news good and bad or positive results . The world is not full of peace and love at the moment, BAE are always announcing a contract here and there with world armed forces yet it seems to drop for no real reason .Trump seems to have poured petrol on the Gazza problem so if anything this share should be ticking up , time will tell if results help with the SP ?

Short of WW3 I don't know how much more bad news is needed to boost this SP? . Europe needs to pay more for guns and bullets to protect itself from Putin and anybody else, mind u we cant even stop rubber dingeys paddling across the channel at the moment so what point there is for our Armed forces at the moment is a mute point ?.Ukraine are fighting a rear guard action at best , look at history Napoleon and Hitler were not light weights and failed against Russia, its all down to pure economic and logistical attrition , Israel are attacking anybody they feel like with impunity at the moment under genocide Jo's watch so there wont be much good will too all men this XMAS in the world , so lets hope for a late Santa Rallye .

Does anyone think all those no win no fee lawyers are out to make an easy buck with their snow flake wok claims is lowering the SP ? its an easy bleeding hearts money spinner. I am not saying there wont be a few just claims purely by the law of averages with any big company in any field, but in my day everyone was a lot more think skinned and any stressful situation at work normally had banter and gallows humour with no malicious intent .Also in my own experience managing large amounts of staff the Sheila's gave as good as they got and then some !!!.Unfortunately any white Hetro male is wrong and guilty these days what ever they say or do .

The only positive thing fairly unique to BAE is that when the share price goes down it means there must be a little bit more Peace, Love and Understanding in the world news for 5 minutes.

The only other sad positive thing is it wont last for very long .Biden has cobbled together a very ropey dodgy cease fire in Lebanon just to make him look remotely effective as a retiring world leader .Sadly it will be back to normal 1 minute after he clears off , considering he has funded, bank rolled and armed the whole ghastly mess wont ever be mentioned ..

I think most of my shares have seen selling off recently in lieu of the budget and US election which both have implications for savers and share owners. I also think it is unforgivable how long our Ratchel has made the country wait for her budget. I may be wrong but I cant remember any new Gov dragging things out for so long causing so much daily speculation and concern across the whole country for no good reason in my mind.

I will keep an eye out dont worry, I want GSK to win but since the Dame arrived nothing good has come of it and the SP going down the last few days over what should of been wonderful news ! makes me even more certain I am right, but each to their own we are all grown ups , we pay our money and then keep everything crossed. Good luck all .