Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
I agree with all the comments from the long term holders who still have not got the SP back to their entry prices and more importantly the Divi is still down 50% !!! from 2019. I would take some comfort if I felt and read any of these new profits the media are ranting over were actually used to help us suffering share holders too raise the divi back from its monumental crash in 2020. That would not be much to ask of our CEO to just reinstate the old divi price ,that after all is what he is paid for ? he is paid too look after the share holders interests not keep channel 4 news ,Boris and his wife happy !!!. But if anybody bothers to read the new wok green Shell strategy iit clearly says divi will only be raised by 4% a year NO MATTER HOW BIG OUR PROFITS ARE .Buy backs do sod all for share holders and are just used to keep hmg and the wok media happy. Im sorry but forget any significant Divi increase all surplace will go too green causes not reinstating the divi which could and should of been done straight away in my opinion .Its going to take 10 years to get our old divi back guys !.I loved shell but its going to be milked the same way as the banks with PPI and I will now sell the lot at 2500 if we ever get there !!! , all my BP have been sold already at a small profit . We all have different strategy's but unless you bought at the lows in 2020 you are screwed from what I can read if you need divi income to live on like me . Good luck all, make up your own minds and do your own research as always .
I agree Jing I am not impressed about waiting 2 more years and i feel sorry for my kids who can work to 70+ my grandad and father in law all died under 70. WE all signed up for our state pensions in good faith aiming for 65 , Ladies blame those feminists you had 60 and then let the wok feminist make u do 7 more years !!!!.My point is its bad enough to make changes for the future but to screw people over when the finish line was in site is below the belt. MP's are lucky they get 1 years full salary straight off when they loose their seats £80k for doing sod all !!! then get a good pension and seats on boards of companies drinking coffee for 1 day a week stuffing brown envelopes in their pockets for favours from their mates , it must be hard ..
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Anyone else concerned about HMG constant interference in FTSE100 companies and gunning for the smoking industry now ? , I dont smoke or drive a V12 Aston Martin or V8 Muscle car etc etc etc but hey I think people should be able too do what they want if it does not hurt anybody else .What is the meaning of life if you cant have some sin and pleasure now and then ? It seems every share I go into some wok bore and jealous idiot wants to stop my dividends and fund via my income their latest green issue and misguided self interest campaigns. Oilers are not allowed to make a profit for share holders god forbid or reward share holders at all , All builders are to blame for Greenfill towers despite poor gov building regs etc so again all builders must pay towards cladding removal regardless if their company even built any dam tower blocks in the first place !!!!.We had the UK banks bled dry by PPI false claims to make HMG look wok and caring and now the sin Cig companies are being clobbered despite like the oilers they pay massive amounts of taxes to HMG coffers . Can somebody tell me where I can invest and get a good divi without the green wok nutters telling me I must be a privileged multi millionaire and then stealing my retirement income from me yet again ?.
I know how you feel velindre Im waiting for £24.50 to sell up. and move on.The media never let the truth get in the way of a good story, we all have taken a massive hit with the share price clobbered by covid, divis dropped by 2/3 at one point and still not restored to anywhere near 2020 levels.It will take 10 years at the announced annual 4% increases to get our old divi back pre 2020 !!! but nobody mentions that on the news. I liked being in shell now Im stressing trying to get out asap before HMG use it as a cash cow like they did with the UK banks and PPI to fund their fuc*ed up economic policy.
Half year results look ok on their web site but no matter what shares I have held be they oilers ,Pharma,Banks , fags,buiders etc etc etc the financial market always seems to suite itself. If profits are up they are not enough and the share drops , or if debt is down its not down enough so the shares drop or market share has not increased as much as so called analysts expected stock goes down etc etc etc .If the losses are not as bad as thought share goes up ! .In a nut shell what ever way shares go its more to do with what short positions etc the markets have already opened and they doctor the news to suite themselves .Anyway hopefully this will go up but nothing surprises me anymore .
Unfortunately I need 2450 to break even, I was in Shell a long while,Hopefully buy backs and high oil prices will push her over 2450 once more ?. There are a lot of investors hurting with their Divis halved, the maths does not stack up if ones shell investment pot is returning only half what it used to make. I hope anyone who got in on the 2020 lows is doing well but I am not one of them .
In case I confused anyone this is the video I meant below. Have a good weeekend everyone .I am sure ICE cars and gas boilers will be having massive sale increases just before 2030 better book one now.
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This video sums up how I and I suspect everyone else with an ounce of soul feel regardless of what we drive .It also explains why we should not allow ourselves to be driven and controlled by WOK media and Wok governments to surrender our basic rights to drive what ever car we want, powered by whatever means we choose and to be able heat our homes what ever way we can afford.Is that really too much to ask ?.
Personally I think the oilers should pay nothing ! ,People invested in Shell BP etc as they knew they were invested in oil and gas etc and people are more than happy to top up at petrol stations and turn up the gas when its cold. .Now oil companies are a play thing for the PM's wife and all the green wok brigade media telling them to spend all profits on fantasy green policies and not put the divi back where it was pre covid .Yet they are still peddling lies in the media how we are getting a massive 4% divi increase failing to say Shell cut the divi by 60% after covid.They never ever mention that.It will take over 10 years at this rate to get our old divi back guys !!!!. .I am surprised they did not relocate their head offices to the cayman islands and tell HMG to stick their wok ideas. It wont work , they bang on about cost of living crisis in the media one minute and tell everyone to break the bank trying to afford an electric car the next ! oh and then tax everyone 25% green tax on their energy bills.Nobody can afford these heat exchangers at £10k plus a pop and I like to see the french or US governments try the same thing in their countrys the riots would never end .Its about time Boris said its all a daft idea, do these green wok things if it makes u feel good else just try and pay your bills as before and enjoy your ICE engines. Rant over all my BP shares now sold and I will sell these with a heavy heart when I break even. Forget never sell shell its now Do sell Shell asap when the green Brigade screw up a companys divi potential for ever and there is no point in holding them any longer !!!
My dividends landed in my bank account this morning on time as usual.In a nut shell I have found over several different shares over several years if you have old fashioned paper share cert you get paid on the day in your bank account no problem .If you have online accounts like halifax etc they make you wait 4 working days before giving you your own money back so they can use it first themselves , I have both and technology certainly is not as good as good old paper share cert.
Sold all my BP today getting tired of being told how much money oilers are making when the divi is only half it was in Jan2020 .Took a position here the divi is much better.Itching to sell all my Shell once the price is right, the never sell shell mantra dont work when the divi is half it was .Hopeing to by a big chunk more here once I sell all my shell .
I think you will find investors like me want the old dividends back , the American oilers paid full dividends during covid and still do , if your getting twice the divi elsewhere you wont go to BP or shell they are being help back by wok gov interference who wont even let them pay the old dividends despite having the funds to do so.The share prices are getting expensive for pension funds and investors that need also the dividends to warrent buying them.Shel and BP are turning into a buy and sell day shares not put away for relible dividend shares they used to be.The days of never sell shell are over thanks to HMG, I will sell all mine once I break even with Shell and get a reasonable return here as one can earn alot more for ones outlay elsewhere now with the derisory dividends.I dont want to but Im forced to by Looney and the wok brigade.
Reading the news you would think all shell share holders are rolling in money and about to get a 300% increase in Dividends today. When is the media ever going to say the share price halved in 2020 the dividend was cut over 60% and is still round about only half its historic levels ?When are they going to say despite what the results are we are going to only get a pathetic 4% increase in Divi and that it may take 10 years at this rate to even return to previous levels of dividend payout.What really gets me BP and shell cut dividends in 2020 but all the us oilers just carried on paying out .The uk FTSE100 companies are constantly being controlled by HMG, told to go green & ****ged off constantly by the wok press.Europe is still taking russian gas why on earth is shell and BP told to surrender for nothing £billions of pounds of assets for nothing ? None of this makes any sense especially when my dividends have halved and im made to look uber rich by the press.
Snap I am selling half my shell to buy LGEN also once they go up a little more ? or maybe just sell half my lloyds bank shares. Its a pain you buy your shares for very good reasons at the time but never thought about Covid , Wok Green issues , Grenfill tower, Russian invasions etc etc etc .I think the days of buying shares and sticking them in a draw for 20 years are over one has to keep buying and selling for dividends trying to stay one step ahead of HMG interference and the latest wok issues. .Labour shadow chancellor has it in big time for shell and BP so an election wont help me .Fingers crossed IMB does not get hit with extra taxes etc in the future.
I think Gove's interference is screwing this share down big time. I bought at 30p years ago and topped up a few more as she rose hopping it would get to £2 + and stay there !. It was down to 3p at one point I believe after the banking crisis so there is no telling where we are going mainly due to HMG meddling and the wok optics of actually paying out decent dividends owed to share holders that keep the company alive.
Well I decided to buy a big chunk of shares here after selling a chunk of BP. Its a dam cheek how HMG are meddling with dividends in lots of companies Not only do they tell BP and shell to give away for nothing Many £billions of assets in Russia despite Germany still taking russian gas ! , the wok press still want more blood because of world fuel prices. They fail to mention the 25% Green tax we are all forced to pay and dont even want ! and they fail to mention Oilers are not the cause of world price rises. All they see is profits which the share holders have not even been handed back and in fact halved. since 2020The only person on a winner is the CEO Looney ( Very Apt Name).Lets hope we dont have a looney running IMB in the future doing HMG bidding..I have seen this with Lloyds bank who have been used as a cash cow to fund the economy along with other banks and fraudulent PPI hyped up big time by Camerons Government. Again Lloyds could of resumed its old dividend recently but failed to do so wasting money on buy backs and vanity projects.I am halving me exposure to oil and just hope the wok press dont blame IMB for all the NHS ills for the last 25 years years and make them pay to finance the massive waste in the NHS. Fingers crossed I am running out of decent divi companies not being meddled with by HMG and the Wok media, I wont even mention TW and the Greenfell tower cladding nonsense now Gove is making all the uk big Builders fund their Wok repair costs whether they even built tower blocks etc or not. There was a lot less interference under the Blare Brown administration than there is now in the markets thats for sure.
Well its nice to see an encouraging explanation for the IMB position. With the fall today I am glad I did not buy a whole lot more just yet. Mind u my BP have crashed also so its ying yang. I am still puzzled why IMB cant make a decent wok electronic cig. Dont most companies just buy the competitors product strip it down to all its component parts and copy the hell out of it as far as the patents allow .China dont even worry about patents ! Any smokers on here use these new e cigs etc just wondered how they really compare to old style fags .
Well I agree, I think I will add to my current holding . My oilers halved their divi in 2020 which the wok press never ever report, they then had an easy chance to just resume the same old traditional divi levels but I feel HMG have forced them to right off billions of assets over Ukraine instead and keep their divis at historic low levels . . I know IMB are also in the wok political spot light but most investors are not charities, if people dont like BP IMB etc etc then dont buy their products etc , is it me or are FTSE companies being carpeted more and more by HMG and being told how to run their companies to the detrement of share holders.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4502026-imperial-brands-massive-benefit-shareholders?msclkid=767bffd7c3c211ecb91ca338d72ed014Not sure how to take this ?, they seem obsessed about the new vap style products etc etc. I see it like nasty oil and gas industry etc everyone talks about electric cars but most people dont want anything to do with them because of the costs and benefits , you can if u want im sticking with what i know and can afford so to speak .. Is IMB doomed or is it like shell and bp they have another 50 years before the wok bregade take over ?.
Thank you Trek I read somewhere around 5.5% yield predicted going forward in 22 which back of a fag packet is around 17p I may be wrong ? so its a case of getting the 21p and deciding whether to stay or go ? They used to say never sell Shell ! I certainly will once I get back into profit ,the divi collapsed and all this green Wok and interference from the government telling BP and Shell to give away many Billions of thir russian assets for free !!! is a step to far especially when Germany and Europe are still importing russian gas ! you cant make it up.I will prob take a small position and wait and see.