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Ramnik41.
An extract from 1 of my posts yesterday
" It is becoming very obvious on this board,other than a few,very few, posters with high posts are trolling away.
Low numbers: Agreived holders,only posting flybe
High numbers: Non holders,posting on numerous companys,dont ,and never have owned a share in their life,masochistic morons getting pleasure at other peoples misfortune.
Would guess that this sums up your thoughts also.
Do'nt let the BAS***** grind you down.From my experience if you go back and giv em stick its amazing that they quickly vanish up their own backsides,for a bit anyway.
All IMO of course,but the facts do seem to speak for themselves.
Viking.Just a word of caution,that article is from the Times,24 hours ago,as yet I dont see any confirmation/denial from Aberdeen,or any follow up from anybody else in the press.
That is not to say i'm very much as hopefull as you.
Need this guy from sky news to get his teeth into this.
Tav.Not the norm for me,because we are normally 100% on same wave length,but sorry this time.Those nearest the planes are the ones on the high diving board,waiting to jump.
Slipped my mind,but how did the Virgin pilot dispute over chrimbo pan out.
Pianista." Completion is just awaiting one or two minor conditions to be satisfied. ",read your own words.What if conditions are not satisfied.
Pianista.The deal at this time is not signed.As i have previously posted,something that may be more common to us all,It's like buying a house,the sale is not confirmed untill final contracts are exchanged,up untill the time you can be gazumped.
BMPR.Re jobs.
See the post from Ifluaj Wednesday 1412hrs.Unconfirmed of course,but having worked in the airline buisness for 44 years,I would guess from past experience of this kind of thing,the figs are not far off the mark.With a workforce of 2000 ish if memory serves me correct,and at the time of his post,notice periods etc being observed,how many staff will be there .Not forced out,but jumped of their own choice.
Hereshopin.1 Word answear YES
Blackrock.Assume follower is number of posts
It is becoming very obvious on this board,other than a few,very few, posters with high posts are trolling away.
Low numbers: Agreived holders,only posting flybe
High numbers: Non holders,posting on numerous companys,dont ,and never have owned a share in their life,masochistic morons getting pleasure at other peoples misfortune.
All IMO of course,but the facts do seem to speak for themselves.
Skywalker123.Where is that info from?.
Specky.I Quote from HL response
The EGM circular was published on 27 November.
Did you receive this circular in any way,shape,or form.If not the statement "Your board believes etc" and indeed anything else contained in the circular would be unknown to you untill this reply?
"The resolution was approved with 99.75% of the Shares voted being in favour of the proposal.The shares voted total 65.6M votes,out of 216.66m.about as easy as Mrs May calling a cabinet meeting and saying lets have a vote on brexit,oh great vote in my favour,see we didn'n need the rest of the plebs,if we had told them I may have lost!!.
Again quote "The circular in November referred to the transfer making it easier for the company to sell assets in the future but there was no information as to the terms of any such sale or anything else that would have provided indication of the offer that was announced on 11 January. As such we didn’t contact you about this.
As a proffesional financial institution,should alarm bells not have started ringing? They should have done,because that's what what was planned and eventually happened.
"I have noted your previous email as negative feedback, and passed on your comments that we could have taken a different approach to notifying shareholders at the time of the circular."
In other words go away,dont waste my time,i'm making plans to fleece other mugs.Also thanks for you admin fee this month,much appreciated
Am I being sarcstic.or is that about the jist of it. .
Tav.Here is an extract from my INITIAL reply from my broker,share.com.
"As an execution only stockbroker we would not write out to clients to advise if a company was moving from a Premium to Standard Listing as the ability to trade the shares would not be affected."
IE stuff you,were ok because premium or standard,we can still get our charges for buying or selling,it's just you don't get a say how the company is run,viz loss of voting rights.If they had known that the outcome would be the derisory 1p offer,paid direct by the consortium and not having to be sold through the broker with no sell commision.
Question 1.If the brokers,had been aware of the consequences (no future selling commision) do you and any other posters here,think their decision may have been different.
Question 2.Is my quoted text above,roughly the same as received by you and other readers of this post,with different
Brokers.
sorry.last line but one should read,"I guess that if the company advised the broker,it was for the Broker to follow suit and advise me."
Lets try to make it as simple as I can,if you have problems have a word with Tubbs.
I am a private investor,trying to make money out of my pension pot.
I see a company and think wow,looks good i'll have a dabble at that.How do i do that.Ah the easiest way is through an online broker.Set up an account,put muchos dinero in that account,then you can deal.OK So far???
Get broker site on line,key in company,get quote,accept (or decline),pay share price +fees,cash balance in account decreases,but I am now a shareholder,and have to pay broker monthly fee for looking after/administering my account,Still with me.Usually no problem,share price may go up or down,gamble I take,guaranteed cash balance decreases,broker taking wedge for looking after me,and my investment.I am assuming the that the shares are non certificated,because i have never received a certificate,but I stand to be corrected.
By these actions I consider myself Ownner/part owner of the company viz employer of the BOD.
Company then hits problems,oh dear say BOD our employers (shareholders) are not going to be happy,when we tell them,tell you what let's not tell them.What we will do is start a rumour that we are going to tell them something,but not fully carry it out.Certificated share holders we will have to tell,no option,but the other donkeys we will just tell the broker,and hopefully they will think its not really all that important,we wont waste our time/postage,just keep it quiet and hope we will be ok.
So Mr broker/big poster,I knew my interpretation from the start,from the facts above,and for Teddy bear clarity,I guess that if the company advised the broker,it was for the company to follow suit and advise me.
I rest my case M'lud
Mitch984.Spot on.
Too many people on this board keep harping on about asset sale/shell company etc.
At this moment in time the deal is not done.
Take buying a house,you go thro all the rigmerole etc,but untill the final contracts are exchanged you can still be gazumped.YES/NO.
Woodstock.Some good/very good posters on your list,But,and it/s only my opinion,the last two fall into the category as SoulDoubt.Sorry just my opinion.
SoulDoubt.
read the post fro ifjuaj @1412 today regarding morale with flybe staff.if his assumption is correct and any employment notice period is in the region of 28 days how many staff in late February are going to run the airline.Re your comment about anybody buying in now,I would agree and many on this board would agree, that they have little sympathy as the offer of 1p has already been made.
Most people on here are the same as myself,and 16p drop to just over 2p overnight with the prospect of 1p on the horizon,Having said that anybody buying at the 2p+ low,as of now is near enough "bagging" or close to 100% profit,so you have to say well done for the gamble.
I will repeat my question earlier on this evening,are you a holder.Are you holding in any of the companies you have posted about in the last month (all of which are either suspended or in worse state than Flybe) I suspect not.
Taking the above into account,and with due respect,I would agree with Woodstock,and suggest you leave this board.
Parmxz.Well done and well worded,you will probably get the reply,upgraded to full complaint.IMO this is the frst time the brokers have been challenged in this way,and my guess is there will be much dialouge between then for a united response.Keep this board advised on any progress.
Parmxz,Did ig give you this information when you opened your accont,no point hiding behind it,and advising you now,You can only act on information given.My broker gave me the same info,went back to them with above query,and now escalated to full complaint.If anything happens,who knows,but other posters on here have done the same and been escalated,IMO its a waste of time,but this may make them clearer in the future.
Woodstock mate,calm down.IMO the fun is only just starting.Don't want you to miss it all,hospitalised with a thrombo!!!
Souldoubt.Are you a holder in the company or just here to spout off ?.
Looking at your profile just for 2019,do you hold in any of the companies you are posting on.
If you are,your in a bad way mate,cos as far as I can see there all either suspended or in a worse state than we are.
Just an observation
Pianista."there are very few conditions to be satisfied before the deal completes."but they are not satisfied as yet.
If I do the lottery I don't win the jackpot for the first 5 balls,I win the jackpot on condition that I have the sixth ball,ie untill the sixth ball is drawn i've got a minor prize rather than the bigeeee.