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OO isn't a covid play.
That said the fact that new studies are still being funded into a virus that's now widely accepted as little more than a common cold shows that there's still money to be made from it.
That others are running studies alongside Hvivo is of little consequence. People still buy shares in Waitrose despite that there's also Tescos, Sainsburys and Morrisons available.
Hvivo has decades of information in its catalogue and nobody will ever catch up with that.
Let's also not forget that we are already booked up and paid for through to 2023. Anything else announced until then is a bonus.
What's not to like? This is still as cheap as chips IMO.
Well I bought again yesterday and will continue to as funds allow. This is a remarkable opportunity at these levels imho.
So Orc, you sold "some" on Friday because Orph is such a poor investment with poor leadeship and no prospects but you didn't sell them all ?
You're an idiot of the highest calibre.
Sell? I'm very happy to keep topping up at this level. Markets generally are headed lower but the fundamentals for Orph haven't changed. This is a steal for LTHs.
Still a couple of pennies higher for me to be back to where I started, but I'm intending to hold long term in any case (for the spin outs and eventual sale).
Got my average down while we were around 20p too so hoping this slow and steady rise continues.
DIM spin off might be a bit later than what we thought but for me that's good news. It gives me more time to keep topping up in OO ... just like I did earlier today and will earn me more free shares eventually.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Could also be traders taking profits from their 17p buys. Who knows?
Whoever they are... its annoying.
A $15 million contract is far from disappointing but its hardly the transformative news many had been expecting. All new contracts are welcome but really they are nothing more that what should be our everyday business. The SP isn't going to be transformed by everyday business and CF knows that. Hence I think expectations are higher than that.
Anything above 50p would be great but realistically, right now I think 35 to 40p would see CF recommend a sale.
I keep reading that the 'fundamentals haven't changed'. Well sorry but one major fundamental has changed. CF has now been wrong so many times that people are doubting anything that he has to say. Obviously not everyone is having these doubts but those numbers are growing. Having faith in the management is pretty fundemental to any company/investor relationship if you ask me.
There have been too many promises over the last 12 to 18 months that were just unrealistic. How many "pleasant surprises" have we been promised and how many "blow the doors off" comments have led to nothing but disappointment? 3 spin offs AND a cash dividend by Christmas anyone?
Now we have "a better share price by the new year" and a NASDAQ listing in the offing too. Well... the share price has done nothing but tank since he said those words and any fool can look at the NASDAQ listing rules and see that Orph doesn't come near to their requirements.
CF is the fundamental that has changed for Orph. Take away his 'blarney' and what you're left with is company that, despite a pandemic and all the billions swirling around in the pharma sector, appears to be struggling to attract institutional investors and seems to be going nowhere quite fast after rising in value based solely on the overblown promises and predictions of the man himself.
If you still have faith in what CF says then good for you and I hope it pays off for you in the long term but there are obviously more and more people around that have lost (or are rapidly losing) that faith. Myself? I'm giving him one last throw of the dice. If the share price isn't at least 25p by the new year then I'll consider that my cue to sell.
I hope you're right Moniman but will any of our core business ever be enough to raise the share price? I can't see what will change the overall sentiment.
Hence my post yesterday... we've been promised the moon. Normal core business looks quite boring in comparison.
...and before Ryan ****s me off again the current sentiment and SP is proving me right.
Who else was criticising CF in my post Ryan.
You're not the brightest spark are you.
Anyone with a criticism of CF is a deramper in your book Ryan. No matter how legitimate that criticism might be. I'm actually a LTH with a fairly nice average (though a tiny bit underwater at the moment).
There seems very little point in a discussion board where you only listen one side of the argument.
Each to their own I guess.
I did watch and, yes he was more grounded on the results etc. However, as I already pointed put he dropped various other hints of mergers and a possible Nasdaq joint listing.
It's like he just can't help himself. There really wasn't any need for it. It'll just become yet another thing that he doesn't deliver on time/at all.
How much higher would the share price be today if it weren't for CF continually overstating the position and then having to row back?
"Pleasant surprises" and "blowing the doors off" are comments jumped on by the rampers after every presentation. 4 spin offs and a cash dividend by Xmas was what we were told.
Now we have talk (just talk) of Nasdaq and mergers too and sure enough the rampers are all over it like flies on ****.
Problem is none of it comes to fruition. Now we're in a situation where genuine good news like a £8 million contract doesn't raise the SP because it's viewed as small fare compared to what CF has promised us to come.
Maybe if CF started talking about facts and actual results rather than fantasies then the SP might react a bit more positively to genuine good news.
Yup, 1billion and CF also said three more spinoffs and a cash dividend before Christmas.
How much credibility does he have now compared to just a couple of weeks ago?
How much will he have by Christmas?
Another way of saying the sp has been built on hot air and promises.
Share prices don't fall on zero news if the fundamentals are there. The latest financials showed that Orph isnt quite there yet. CF now needs to provide the goods, not more pleasant sounding words.
On zero news and apparent zero f's given by CF this is heading back to the teens before the week is done.
It's a disgrace to treat investors like this. An RNS to calm the market costs nothing.
Grow up Bronx!
THere may well be checks being done on the govt contracts but to use that as evidence for the complete radio silence from CF and Investor Relations is tantamount to saying that Orph is a one trick pony.
There is always news to release and even if there weren't there's no shortage of investors ready to tune in to an impromptu CF webinar.
The fact is CF has messed up with his timelines and has left investors hanging.