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Hello slarti & dibbie, There are some on here who just revel in being negative. I just checked my Tui holiday bookings & saw tui shares are down 50% in one day, so vod not as bad. Be possitive, it might just work, be negative, will never work, unless you are shorting.
Correction. Tui fall down to a rights issue!
We are not all here to praise Vodafone. Some of us just think it's junk. Some might be short. It is perfectly fine to be short. Although i am not short. I just think it's junk. Last summer i had a small gamble at 1.18 and sold a short while later at 1.21. There's always a chance after heavy falls to profit from a bear rally. If Vodafone dropped heavily i might even buy some.
I read a lot of messages on here, positive an negative, but I only ever make my own decisions. There is no real down side here now. So hold an see a rise in the near term.
I see no drop from here and certainly no heavy drop. To use the word junk is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. Makes me even more positive.
it's a good value share, btw someone bought over 200mil shares today
dibbieboy1, RE:voda moaners, not many shares are making big profits right now, as dan pointed out with tui, as we are in very troubled times, we are all caught in the stock market trap at the moment, most share prices have dropped so the choices are sell up at a loss or just wait it out until hopefully things improve, the reality is nobody knows what's going to happen next bank crisis etc, my direct line shares for instance have dropped by around a third since they announced a drop in profits and cut the dividend even though they previously said the dividend is safe, could the same happen here i don't know?, hopefully this will be back over a pound again but when is anyone's guess, maybe we will see and end to inflation/interest rises and putins war sometime soon, we are well overdue some good news
forget about the tui, that was was for different reasons ri, thought they were a bargain Dan lol
Guttersnipe. We all know your not short (very defensive though) Come on Gutter stand up like a man & say "I am not short, I'm a man" We believe you?!
I can see 9m sells. 34m buys today.
Where do you see 200m buy?
If it is true, then e& are increasing to 15%.
Around 250m is 1% of vod.
Did some research:
Around 280m shares traded today. That’s very high for one day. Sp didn’t move much.
Something happening in the background
Wisebear if I want to see more accurate trade volumes I use https://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/quote/VOD
and it's under Analysis section which currently is empty because yesterday's figures are gone. But that's where I saw overall buy figures for yesterday and it was around 250million bought shares
any idea what the net debt might be following the egypt, hungary and vantage tower deal?
Up, as they need to keep borrowing for underlying business and to pay a div and buy back shares.
If they had stopped the div they wouldn’t need to sell essential assets.
What a business.
'Our organic growth underpinned a step-change in our return on capital, which improved by 170bps to 7.2%. '
traders conveniently forgetting money borrowed from stakeholders is generating increasing return on capital year on year
why they keep buying out minorities and paying way more? this company is terribly run
mehmehmeh. Why do you think buying out minority K.D.G. shareholders is a bad thing to do?
why do they need to buy it? they have held the 94% shares since 2013 why buy now? how will it be better for them now?
why dont they focus on dividend sustainabilty and debt reduction
Slowly but surely down it goes - red finish ?
It's kinda sensible. The cost of maintaining the minority holders is 6.6% a year and rising. Like a high interest loan.
Links in though with the advice to not expect too much from the towers money. It will very quickly find a home in someone elses pocket, and VOD then continues, minus half it's essential towers.
mole. Thank you for your explanation. I read about the 6.6% but didn't understand it. Hopefully mehmeh understands now. I know you are negative about vod, but at least your not negative for the sake of it. Shame about our colour blind poster on here! Always value your posts though mole, cheers mate.
This has to be the only share chat forum when someone predicts a red finish at 3.51pm & even when the sp ends up 1% after being up most of the day, he still gets 2 recommends for his crazy post. You could not make it up. Something very strange going on here??! You just have to laugh.
I mentioned before. The sp is being held back for big players. Paid doomsters arrive to keep sp low. Hold onto your shares.
E&, Malone and Xavier are not stupid. They have a lot more knowledge than us. Follow the money….
I agree with Wisebear. You just need to be patient. When the merger with Hutchinson comes through the price will go up
I agree with Wisebear and Estienne. Also when E& bid comes through the SP will rocket