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It is not very complex. Israel was built on a stolen land. The balfour letter says that Britain wanted to give a land to Jewish people on PAlestine land.
Under international law, Israel is an occupier. Under international law, armed resistance against occupiers is legitimate.
Needless to say, you just need to see how the IDFs are behaving and how the Israelis are enjoying starvation of kids, to understand their mentality.
Not interested in a discussion btw.
Incapable or unwilling?!
'84, there are many people in this country who appear incapable of understanding who our enemies are - just as there were in the 1930s.
And anybody seen supporting Hamas or brandishing Palestine flags in our country should be considered a security threat and ejected from the U.K.
It’s actually quite pleasing to see the overall defence of Israel’s position here..
Hamas could have brought an end to all this (after they initiated it) on any day over the last few months, by simply releasing the hostages. Instead they chose to use a twisted logic that they are somehow the victims… At the end of the day if you attack someone without warning… you don’t then get to choose how hard they hit you back..
Israel should be allowed to finish Hamas off once and for all…. And no one with a functioning brain should miss them.
Indeed it is a worrying situation now that Iran has entered the arena
Perhaps most worrying is that in the U.K. we have let the enemy into our nation. How many terrorists will be working for iran when the inevitable kicks off?
And remarkably, the borders remain wide open for millions more terrorists to flock here
I guess we'll be seeing an RNS tomorrow?
Fortisimo ,your stupid description of the current Israel Iran and hamas situation means you know nothing about the full conflict, or you just hold your own agenda......
In a nut shell and for your information, Israel had and still has to fight for it survival from the first day it created, Israel did not start the latest crisis, it was hamas!!!! Israel never called to destruction of their suranding neighbours, unlike Iran and it's cronies ie hamas hezbolah and the huties.
However Israel is strong enough to stand against those evil enemies and previl.
I strongly suggest you learn a bit more about the overall conflict (or at least make an effort
..) before showing off your ignorance.
some people are are irreversibly ******s.
ColonelDrake what are you smoking.
Hamas is still launching missiles and rockets at Israel everyday and you are asking Israel to stop attacking Hamas and let the shelling of Israel continue.
At best you are a useful idiot.
Fort, why didn't you begin your post by first denouncing Hamas' attack on Israel? At least your position would be balanced had you done so.
Those guys have had over 70 years to arrive at a peaceful coexistence with Israel, they haven't. October 7th is the latest manifestation of their desire to destroy Israel. We will not allow that to happen. Even Egypt made peace with Israel, why couldn't they worked to find a peaceful way to live with Israel? Instead they attacked women and children, and kidnapped the innocent.
So who's the good guys here then? Putin going into Ukraine = bad guys. US going into Iraq under fale pretences.. good guys or bad guys? Iran, Saudi's, Syria, Yemen... where do you want to stop? My point was not about starting a Iran vs Israel pros and cons discussion... it's not about that. It's about Israel's actions of late and how the world is asking them to calm it all down and act appropriately. Instead, Israel is ignoring this and acting in a way that make Putin look like a saint. Israel was thought of a country that appeared to have some measure of responsibility but of late they look like a terror group themselves. Terrible to see... it like they are being led by a complete nutter. Even Biden has said calm the xxck down.
Israel need to get a peace deal done and deescalate. Or what's the alternative? Do they really think they can take on Iran and come out of it ok? It's pointless. The mighty US got whooped by the Afghan's and went home tail between legs.
It's Israel that are the problem right now... not Iran not anyone else. They are acting in a way that is 'reckless'. They are a concern right now as they do not seem well hinged.
I don’t think the west are escalating this in the slightest.
Putin and Hamas( Iran) kicked all these situations off………
Sorry Cintra learn your history what happened in 1967.
Yes Israel launched an attack on threatening forces, who were threatening to destroy Israel.
This is the famous 6 day war and meant that land was taken initially as a buffer zone.
Israel has always had to fight for its survival.
Remember it's Hamas that calls for the eradication of Israel and the death of every Jew in the world.
I don't understand how anyone that's not totally evil can support that position.
Yes what's happening at the moment is terrible, but the way to start resolving this is for everyone to call for the removal of Hamas and return of the hostages.
'Anyone who destabilizes genocide gets my vote'. Jeez!
Do you understand anything about Iran? Sorry, that was a rhetorical question; you clearly do not.
It's a complex situation and I'm not supporting Hamas or Israel. I'm simply highlighting the unbalanced approach. The rough figures stand at 33,091 Palestinian's killed vs 1,410 Israeli's in 2024.
That's not proportionate. That's genocide.
Israel need to calm it all down and not continue escalating it. The direct hit on the Iranian's in Syria didn't need to happen.
Quite frankly, Iran's response was actually as gentle as it could be considering what could have followed. They don't want to escalate... that's clear. But what is not clear is what israel are after. Eveb Biden has said calm the xxck down on a number of occasions (not word for word of course) and he's even said he's not supporting any further retailiation by Israel suggesting he too thinks Iran were in their rights to retailiate and that it's now evens...
Someone seriously needs to reign Israel in as they are overstepping the mark by considerable amount and the world is turning against them fast. That is clear. Time to deescalate and time for peace talks. Wars don't solve anything but they make the countries like US, france and UK very rich by selling the arms. It's ugly stuff.
I’d much prefer London to be full of Israelis than the Palestinian crowd that spit their hatefulness every 2 weeks, making the city a nightmare place to be!
Anyone who tries to destabilise a genocide gets my vote. Take a read of Francesca Albanese's report as UN Special Raconteur. https://www.un.org/unispal/document/anatomy-of-a-genocide-report-of-the-special-rapporteur-on-the-situation-of-human-rights-in-the-palestinian-territory-occupied-since-1967-to-human-rights-council-advance-unedited-version-a-hrc-55/
Good grief ColonelDrake your arguments are childlike.
Israel have been under constant attack by rockets since 1994.
They would have been justified to go in and remove Hamas anytime during that period.
Israel has shown huge restraint.
The horror of the October attack means that Hamas must now be removed.
As we transition to green energy, we will have no need for Iran's oil, then we can cut off this disgusting regime.
Fort, I read through your post and nowhere did I see a condemnation of Hamas for attacking Israel on October 7th, nor empathy for the Israeli citizens killed in that attack, nor for those kidnapped!!! What was Israel meant to do, sit back and do nothing?
Long live Israel!!🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
The ones that shout the loudest are turning against Israel. A lot of people support Israelis, they just don’t run around London and the world shouting it.
I’m sorry when you have got protestors marching around London with drawings of paragliders on their banners then I really lose sympathy.
Let’s face it, Israel didn’t start this.
Iran is the most de-stabilizing influence in the Middle East and, by inference, the World. Israel is not.
It's been of a different magnitude because different standards are being applied which makes for a rather ugly world and exposes the hypocrisy.
You have the world willing to spend billions helping Ukraine defend against Russia... no problem with that at all. But then when Israel invades Gaza strip, the world can't help... in fact if you try to help.. you're a terrorist. Mmmm.
You then have Israel bombing a building in syria.. killing a top iranian official. You then have Iran retailiating.. which lets face it all expected and they are justified in doing so.
That's it isn't it? As Iranian recently said... that's the matter resolved.
Now it's up to Israel to behave itself. It's been already been doing some seriously bad things including killing aid workers. So isn't it time the world started to rally around Gaza? Time that the world put pressure on Israel in same way it did over Putin? Where are the sanctions?? Where are the bans on international brands/businesses from operating in Israel.
I'm not take sides, I'm merely exposing the way that the world seems to deal unfairly with one and more generously with another. It's ugly to watch. It's time someone put a stop to it. The world is turning against Israel everyday that this continues and that's not good for them at all.
I'd expect the markets to be up on Monday as US markets fell on fears of major attacks and lets face it... the iranian's told them all of what was coming so they could shoot them all down. Hardly escalation. More a warning. And the marets were down big time on Friday fearing far worse action. China have called for some 'calm' and as per usual they are they steady heads here while the US notoriously gun ho are like something from the wild west.. ready to draw if you so much look at them. Israel are making Putin look like a saint.
Thank you addicknt.
But for the record I have never said this was easy in any way.
In fact right from the start I have said this will take years, when many on here have said we have an imminent sale.
For the record we still have some considerable way to go.
Even when the finances are sorted, construction doesn't start the next day.
Engineering has to produce it's roadmap.
This is many stages and will involve certain aspects completed before the next can be instigated.
Q, my apologies, but in the past you've certainly implied it's an easy task.