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If £4500 premiums to insure your Tesla aren’t enough, how about this in todays telegraph?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/09/30/ev-power-point-shortage-driver-disputes-motorway-services/
Britain’s biggest motorway service station provider has brought in marshals to police “charge rage” among electric vehicle drivers battling for access to plug-in points.
Moto chief executive Ken McMeikan warned the UK’s motorway service stations are facing growing “public disorder” due to a lack of grid connections preventing him from installing enough car chargers to meet the surge in demand.
It means many motorists are facing long waits, with angry drivers confronting staff and each other over the lack of charging facilities.
Mr McMeikan said the delays made drivers “very angry and stressed” and warned of the growing risk of “charge rage” on Britain’s motorways.
He said: “People need to drive their EV cars around without range anxiety, without long queues and without public disorder but at peak seasonal times we are experiencing all this now.”
Moto, which runs 49 motorway services around the UK, has already introduced marshalls at Exeter, Rugby and Wetherby to manage EV queues and prevent conflicts during busy periods.
0104 Electric car infrastructure struggles to keep up
Mr McMeikan, 58, who drives an EV himself, said he had told the government of the problem and warned ministers that public disorder incidents would grow.
He told The Telegraph: “I’ve been saying to them that the grid does not have sufficient capacity right now to deliver the power we need at the time we need it.
“If we don’t get that amount of power guaranteed, then in coming years every Christmas, every Easter, every summer holiday and peak bank holiday will be the equivalent of when we have a fuel crisis on petrol and diesel.”
SIX-HOUR QUEUES
Electric car drivers were forced to queue for up to six hours at some service stations across the UK last Christmas.
Unlike a petrol or diesel engine that takes just minutes to fill, a typical electric car will take at least half an hour to recharge. It means many more charging stations are needed to service EVs.
The Moto chief is the latest senior business leader to warn that long delays in connecting to the grid are holding back the rolling out of charging points.
The chief executive of Gridserve, one of Britain’s biggest electric car charging companies, told The Telegraph earlier this month that delays had forced his business to rely on batteries and generators to power up vehicles.
Mr McMeikan said: “You’ll see queues of people and public disorder because there wasn’t enough power delivered to motorway service areas… to allow people to charge their car and then continue their journey.
“There is a view in government that, rather than provide the power to guarantee sufficient numbers of chargers, we should be thinking about how we manage queu
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PUBLIC DISORDER RISK
Mr McMeikan said he had repeatedly told Jesse Norman, the minister for transport decarbonisation, that making EV motorists queue would put his staff and motorists at risk of “charge rage.”
“I’ve had conversations with Jesse Norman, with special advisers and with National Highways who are responsible for managing the motorway network. They are all responsible for ensuring chargers are being deployed on the motorways but they are not doing it. They are not addressing the fundamental issue, which is electrical power.”
There are already about 850,000 electric vehicles on UK roads and two in ten of the new cars registered in August were EVs.
Despite recently delaying a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles, the Government last week confirmed that more than a fifth of new cars sold by manufacturers in the UK next year must be zero emission, rising to 80pc by 2030.
New electric car registrations
Mr McMeikan was formerly the chief executive at Greggs and led the rebellion against the government’s 2012 “pasty tax”, which was ultimately abandoned.
He said he now planned to take the government on again, accusing it of letting motorists down by failing to ensure motorway services were given grid connections.
The lack of action has forced Moto to seek planning permission for up to 25 solar farms next to its service stations to “guarantee an amount of power that we require for EV drivers,” Mr McMeikan said.
“I’m so frustrated and so concerned.”
Lol
Strange how this is happening when sales of EVs are falling, allegedly.
Oh dear scaremongering to try and rein in the change to electric.
It’s happening and there’s nothing you can do about it 1984.
I switched to electric because I save a fortune doing it, 3 years ROI and investing the savings in more storage , when V2H and V2G come in to force every EV can power their home
I’m paying less to heat a home, that is over twice the size, than I was 15 years ago with a gas boiler.
You can bury your head in the sand about milk floats etc but I’m more than happy to drive round in a quiet relaxing range rover when they are out next year.
Personally I don’t want to charge at a public charger as it’s 1000 % more than charging at home,
That’s fine if your round trip is comfortably within your range and you drive like a vicar to make it last
But some of us like weekends away and the ability to get more fuel as and when we want it and not have to wait half an hour even when it is our turn
Add in the £4500 insurance premiums to the extortionate list price of these ugly golf carts and they are purely for mugs and Willy wavers
Let’s hope we get solgold over the line before everyone wakes up because it’s clearly beginning to happen at a rate of knots now.
I can confidently predict EVs will become the Betamax of personal transport
The range is already up to 400m + for a decent merc and it’s only going to improve.
All sunak did was move the UK in line with the EU, all the big car manufacturers are aiming for 2035…..
You can post all these hurdles but the reality is I can drive to Gatwick this week 400m and charge for 15 mins and get there and back with no issues.
Our a Tesla is almost 3 years old, the new ones have much better range and I drove to London and back last weekend with zero issues, from the midlands, no UlEZ either….ots win win.
You can pretend it won’t Halle but this is here until flying electric drone taxis in a few years.
Personally I’d rather not be held to ransom by opec+ and ripped off for over priced fossil fuels because they are greedy sh*tes
lol 4.5k insurance premiums…..what a load of tosh
It won’t happen, we don’t have the infrastructure and we’re never going to get it by 2035
We don’t have the personal wealth for each of the uks 40m motorists to buy a sixty grand golf cart and there won’t be affordable second hand stock because the batteries are dead in ten years
It is just an elitist power grab to try and put poor people in their boxes by denying them private transport. Problem is they’re starting to see it.
The fairest way forward is to let the markets work it out. If people genuinely want and desire these milk floats and all the problems that come with them, then they’ll buy them and the infrastructure will appear
You cannot put a cart before a horse
The take up of EVs will be constricted by grid capacity. The UK government has only been paying lip service to the green revolution. As per Warren Irwin, western governments have allowed green peace to stop them from investing in nuclear which is the only true green energy alternative which can support base load. That decision allowed nuclear research to fall behind while emissions levels increased. EV range is significantly reduced by cold weather and will be until battery technology has improved. For me, increasing grid capacity and rolling out charging infrastructure are the top priorities.
Never a truer word spoken eloro and guess who is sitting on a shedload of the raw material required for the electrification revolution
ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!!!
Sorry but it’s a massive white elephant. Nobody stopped and did the sums before they do FB Ed is up for something that isn’t feasible.
Cue endless can kicking. ICE cars will be the main offering in 2035 just as they are now
When EVs become compelling enough for people to want them on their merits, then the infrastructure will follow the money.
Until then, political posturing can’t force it. You’re asking 80% of motorists to give up freedom. It just isn’t ever going to happen especially when people wake up and see that the rest of the world is laughing it’s backside off at us for impoverishing ourselves
1984 you post thoughts of. Typical gen z poster who believes the boolsheet posted on the plethora of social media sites. Electric cars are the future and here to stay there is no going back if ev are unaffordable then the producers must and will find a way to make them cheaper and guess who is sitting on a shedload of the raw materials required ?
ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!!!
Novice, electric cars are nothing new they’ve failed before
Nor are windmills, we have those up when we found fossil fuels meant constant power.
I can categorically promise you that electric cars will not take over by 2035 and probably not for many decades yet. The tech is too immature, the problems are too numerous and the basic premise upon which the “need” for such vehicles is based is a massive hoax that will be exposed long before we’re all driving a milk float
At the end of 2016 just 0.4% of all new vehicles registered were electric, by 2022 this had risen to 16.6% of new car registrations. A further 6.3% of all new cars registered were plug-in hybrids, making the total market share for new cars registered with a plug in 2022 22.9%.
You do the maths the revolution is coming even for technophobes like 1984. Contrary to popular belief you cannot get electric shocks and you can run it through a car wash you know
Are you aware of the tax breaks for buying a milk float? Do you understand why the solar panel subsidies weren’t sustainable after too many people got them?
If you have to subsidise something it’s not a viable idea in the first place. The EV market is saturated, the tax dodging Willy wavers able to claim back tax for buying one have all got one
Salary sacrifice schemes are under way but they’re untenable. When the masses want their taxes back their taxes have to go up
So simple to see if you open your eyes
As usual the most unintelligent poster on here talk's rubbish.
Heat pump subsidiaries raised from 5,000 to 7500.
For solar panels fits replaced with seg.
Panels more powerful and degradation rates a fraction what they were.
Free power for your house for life, also free charging for your electric car.
Plus your electric company pays you for excess power under seg.
To help with supply during peak periods.