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1984
We all do what is best for us personally, just look at Meghan and Harry as an example 🤣, however the UK has plenty of storage for all this renewable electricity it produces in the form of 1m EVs sitting on their drives. It’s why octopus pay customers to use electric when it’s windy but very shortly the grid will have access to 1m EV batteries to power the country which will help in protecting against the Russian nutter and opec+
I have gone electric because financially it worked for me I appreciate you don’t want to rip up your Italian marble but I ripped up our solid oak flooring because the house was cold, not it’s electric and warm and extremely cheap to run.
Electric cars are ridiculously quick but it’s the speed combined with the noise that makes sport cars exciting in my opinion.
Look we will never agree on this but heat pumps etc are not as expensive as people make out they are……..
Hydrogen is another matter. It’s energy intensive but it’s clean. We backed the wrong horse with battery cars
Nobody ever stopped to think about why a country as tiny as England would even need a high speed rail network. I France where cities are some 400 miles apart then it makes sense
Birmingham to Manchester is something like 120 miles, even the fastest trains aren’t going to make
Substantial difference to journey times
Did you know that for the same cost as completing HS2 we could have reinstated everything (Labours) Beeching chopped away?
That would benefit tens of millions of normalcy people not just the Birmingham to Manchester prawn sandwich brigade
Again Slug you show yourself to be the most unintelligent poster on here.
Who is on about electric plane's.
Airbus already has a hydrogen plane that will be ready in 2035.
Good afternoon Tesla also a F1 fan.
Again formula E I agree is boring.
But in our day to day life's, we do need to do things to give our children a chance.
I have been a floating voter most of my life, have voted Conservative for most of it, Liberal Democrat and Green.
I have never voted Labour, but will be voting for them in the next election.
Because we need to do more for the younger generation, house building, although they will not achieve 1.5 million in five years.
At least they plan to stop local opposition, which is why the Conservatives have failed.
Also Sunaks attack on green policies is so short sighted.
The scraping of HS2 is just the worst decision for the long term.
We are restricted so much by the rail infrastructure in this country.
The lack of HS2 is the biggest impediment to growth in the country.
Tesla that’s exactly the woke mindset, we’re all right about everything and you must toe the line. Except you’re not!
An electric F1 would be rubbish, electric planes will never take off (no pun intended) and until
We figure out how to store enormous amounts of electricity, all these vehicles will be powered by burning fossil fuels in part or at times in whole
So it achieves nothing
Agree with the other comments, the spectre is the only stunning EV out there and I’d live with the range issue if I could afford one. The RR 4x4 is like an ugly london taxi
Quady it’s been accumulating and dispersing for 4.6bn years. If you want to “educate” yourself, have a read about the latest research out of switzlerland I think it was, the new smoking gun that rising temperatures cause rising co2 in the atmosphere :)
Mindsets need to change are there are people like yourself who are very sceptical.
Formula e is pants, there is no atmosphere and I enjoy F1.
At some point I’ll look at a Ferrari and it won’t be electric however for day to day driving and comfort I would take an electric RR over a Bentley every time, the Bentayga is one of the ugliest 4x4s ever, albeit very nice interior wise .
The rolls Royce 4x 4 f]gives the bentley a close run for money in the ugly stakes as well
The word starred out is coc.kpit.
great slug again you show yourself to be the most unintelligent poster on here.
its ****pit is as strong as a monocoque.
it has a bigger boot than most small hatchbacks.
what are you on about with range issues, it can do a thousand miles on a single charge.
lastly when you talk about 0.04 you have no ideas of the maths.
it's about the cumulative effect and we already have far to much co2 in the atmosphere.
it's the man made co2 that is the problem.
try educating yourself. impossible i know, but at least try reading about climate change.
Your argument is so flawed it’s embarrassing.
2nd hand EVs have dropped dramatically in price, they are so much cheaper to run than an ICE
I never do a 4-500mi round trip ever on the same day.
The charger story is a red herring it is easy to charge your car 2-300 whilst you have a coffee at a Tesla supercharger, personally I rarely do it because it’s expensive and it is so easy to charge at home.
Not having to go to a garage and fill up with diesel is a pleasure.
My e-torn battery showed zero degradation after 3 years and 30k miles.
Chinese owned MG have come out with huge increase in sales, hmmmmm I wonder how that can possibly napped.
For someone that has very little experience of any of this you are very critical.
You can lead a horse to water…….
Also it looks like a reincarnated Sinclair C5
It is frankly hideous
I did just look at the aptera, expected to be about £27k? And where would you put people and luggage? And how would it cope with a head on smash with a transit?
For the same money you can buy a slightly ageing Bentley W12, terrific engineering, a thrill to drive, large, comfortable and with no range issues beciase you simply fill it back up in a couple of minutes once it’s empty
*amazing ones
And finally, if a product is good enough and/or cheap enough then you don’t need to badger people into buying it, they will buy in their droves.
If you have to subsidise something then it isn’t viable. By opening subsidy to the entire county you’re effectively mandating them to spend their own money on something they might not want
Nobody has done the maths (actually some have but it’s never talked about because it would highlight how folly the whole movement is)
It’s something like £300,000 per house by 2050 to even get close to net zero, then as mentioned previously the metals simply don’t exist yet.
All to “save” 1% of 0.04% of 0.04% of what’s in the atmosphere!! Meanwhile, other nations are belching out ever more at a staggering rate of knots
The sheer stupidity of this is unbelievable
Slug again you prove yourself to me the most unintelligent poster on here.
We already have a car that you don't need to charge as it charges between 30-40 miles a day from the sun and can do a thousand miles on a single charge.
You would hate it as it's a sensible solution and you don't have a clue about anything.
However if you are interested look up the Aptera, coming to the UK hopefully next year
Not perfect but I will be buying one unless anything better on the market.
Listen to these two dimwits who think nobody else has done a cost/benefit analysis on EVs only them!
Annual mileage is irrelevant, the second biggest issue is range. 300 miles at best if you drive like a vicar and don’t use the air con. Even a short weekend round trip to the Lakes for me is some 350-400 miles
Now multiply that by 30 million cars all waiting for half hour slots to charge up. It’s simply not feasible
Plus the fact I like to get on the road and get home not faff around waiting for a battery Charge
But the biggest problem is cost. People can buy and maintain a banger for about 2-5k and run it cheaply. Entry to the EV market is staggeringly expensive and for those who rely on very old very cheap used cars it will never happen because the batteries are dead after ten years. So millions won’t be able to enjoy motoring at all.
As for “technology is improving all the time”, yes it is but one normally doesn’t put the cart before the horse. You don’t buy a crap iPhone now because in five years making ones should be available
Copperpot, I will repeat my post, incase you missed it.
After digesting it, please advise wether you had the contact 5 years ago, or 2 months ago.
Copperpot, just one more nail in your fictional world.
You told us 2 months ago, your source was a mystery banker you happened to have just met in a london coffee shop.
Yet in your latest ramblings to me, you told us you bought shares 5 years ago in upl on the advice of your source and tipped them 6 months ago
tipped them here around six months ago @ 0.5p, they were 3.35p at close yesterday. And guess what needalife.....they were recommended to me by my source that you reckon is fiction.
My old mum, always said to be a liar you need a good memory.
So copperpot, did you have the source 5 years ago
Or did he turn up 2 months ago.
Your words mate not mine.
I can only assume by your silence, you've been telling porkies again.
Wich brings into question all of your posting history.
Just that nobody has taken the time to fact check you before.
How's the herd!!!!!!!
Exactly Tesla.
The next generations of batteries are on the drawing board.
Some will become commercially viable.
They don't all require lithium.
Also cars will be developed that charge from the sun.
Aptera have already achieved this.
So charging from charging points will be required less and maybe not required for people who drive under 10,000 miles a year.
That's today's technology, not tomorrow's.
Imagine the future.
Slug lives up to his name,as he is slow in his thinking and believes every conspiracy theory goin.
Remains the most unintelligent poster on here.
Lol……as deluded as ever. It is fairly obvious you have issues.
From continually lying on both sites to siding with a character on another board who is as deluded as you and as thoroughly nasty as yourself.
You have been caught lying multiple times lying about trades and have never proved one trade but you love to troll and it has come back to bite you.
Your boasts about trading this successful highlight the character you are as you obviously don’t understand markets but you like to think you are smarter than everyone else by lying.
You were exposed on the other site for all to see and personally I believe you deserve everything that you are suffering, some posters should not be allowed access to a keyboard, you are one of those characters.
Give it up with your tin pot conspiracy theories, no one believes you and it makes you look dumber than you probably are, though that is debatable……..
Eloro
There is only one reason and one reason only Rishi is back pedalling, UXBRIDGE AND SOUTH RUISLIP, he thinks he can garner support from all those who are wavering on climate change and it’s last chance saloon for the leader of the clown party.
Who would I rather listen to …….1984 who thinks it’s all a joke or the 5 largest motor vehicle companies who are all investing billions in the change to EV, Rishi’s delay aligned the UK with Europe so it was no real risk.
For goodness sake even their own party members don’t want him running their own party.
Battery technology will change, hydrogen is dead duck for cars, of course opec+ won’t take it lying down but use of fossils fuels will eventually drop.
I’m not sure who much I buy the climate change theory and I’ve been sceptical but weather is changing, extreme conditions are more regular that may just be a normal cycle but I’m not so sure, but one thing I do know is I am saving a fortune from the switch to electric and the savings are getting bigger every year……..
People can ignore it but it is an only gathering speed……
£4.20 by Christmas.
Oh, sorry mate bought up one of your old posts by mistake.
That was from you 5 years ago.
Just before you started idolising mather.
You know mather, he's the fella who got the sack for running the company like an autocratic boot sale.
While you was spouting months ago.
" Here we go, here we go. Don't care now because here we go".
This single cell moron was saying to excersise caution, and was showing concern about solg strategies.
Sp today 9p.
Sleep tight
Padmaster. Talking of one cell, I dug this ridiculously hysterical post of yours from back in july. You remember the whole board was agog with excitement after some insignificant form had been signed with the government.
"We’re on our way, we’re on our way. To the major league, we’re on our way. How we get there I don’t know. How we get there I don’t care. All I know is Solgold’s on its way."
The share price then was 16p.
Today 9p
The only forecast you've ever got right.
Problem is, we're on our way.
BUT THE WRONG WAY
“Mummy, MUMMY”.
“Whatever is the matter Kalneedabari, sonny boy?”
“Do I really have to go to school today mummy? All the kids are really nasty to me, calling me names like “infestor jester” and “king Solg clown”.
“Don’t be silly Kalneedabari, of course you do, you’re the headmaster.”
Another night on one flew over the solgold nest. Same plot different day, occasionally a new moron chips in.
The climate hoax will definitely be found out and people will be angry when they realise they’ve been duped a second time so quickly after covid (exactly who is demanding masks and rolling their sleeves up for another shot of the clot juice btw?)
Top marks to Quady he’s not always as thick as two short planks
Wonderful to see the big trotters despatched. I’ll raise a glass to that, can’t stand them!!