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Can everyone stop fighting for 1 day and lets have some proper debate?
Can someone let me know what companies did Simon work before joining RM. Did he do any good work in his previous roles? what I mean is, did he leave the company he worked for better or worst financially.
This battle between the CWU and Royal Mail meant to happen prior Covid. Simon only got the job because Rico was sent back to his Swiss castle because of political pressure. The union was aware that eventually this fight will take place.

@Wolves, not to defend @Anger but to call yourself hard-working, when all you basically do is swan around for 20 hours a week is a bit of a weak ****-take.

Hope you bought the dip? The rise from 1.80 yesterday morning to the highs of today will have caught a lot off-guard.

anger...
MWAH

anger and now i have finished it dear boy.................goodnight

anger wasn't there a programme on tv... a comedy actually... oh yes harry Enfield.... what a c.u.n.t. that persona was also...
i rest my case.............

A toxic one at that where passive-aggression seems the norm, both from the top-down and bottom-up.

To instill that type of culture in both directions, takes decades, and that is what you have at RMG.

Guaranteed on the Monday morning after the strike various Manager's and union reps will have been sorting out all of their lazy " bros " out with overtime to build-up their ever-depleting strike-funds.

ooh sharky baby you wanna just here this headline.....

UK RMG, resembles a social club to me.

sorry for the capitals... as never looked before posting... bit like some on here

ANGER I HAVENT LOST 50% OF MY PORTFOLIO!!!! JUST A MILITANT CRAZY BIN DIPPING POSTY!!!LOL PS I LIVE TO HARASS PEOPLE LIKE YOU. LIKE YOU DO TO THE DECENT HARD-WORKING MAN THAT PROBABLY OR MOST DEFINATLY EARNED YOUR ALLEDGED FORTUNE.... AND TO BE FAIR IF YOU WAS THAT WELL OFF THEN WHY DO YOU USE AN ISA... NOT MUCH BENEFITS THERE FOR A MAN OF YOUR WEALTH...

@RGPostie Thanks for the explanation, but if RMG and FED EX are not related then the share price would not have dropped 10 % they day after they delivered their profit warning. Plus look at the share price trend for companies in the postal and courier sector, they have all suffered similar drops over the last 12 months.

This is for other posters on the board who work outside the postal, courier service industry.

In my working history, outside of a couple temp job I undertook I have never worked an hourly contract as a full-time employee, especially during my early working life, when I started my first job as a trainee graduate in an entry level finance position I was paid an annual salary, no-overtime and was working 60-70 hour working weeks because that's is what was expected and that's also what it took to get ahead and noticed by the higher-ups.

Those that did the work and put in the time, were the one's 7-8 times out of 10 (3 out of 10 was due to nepotism or brown nosing.) that were selected for training programs and fast-tracked and moved up the ladder. The rest were also fast-tracked, but instead they were moved out of the door with their P45 attached.

Personally, I just can't get my head around the working culture and UK RMG, but it's clearly very toxic, along with it being ingrained from an era that has long since past.

They also have a much worse attitude towards work than the miners, that Maggie wiped out.

and by the way the 1.2 million thats currently unemployed predominantly do not want to work... FACT!!!!!!!

a little word of calm here....we all know on here the likes of anger,maximus and others are up to their neck in losses on royal mail... and awaiting mr kretinsky to wave his magic wand and sack the entire workforce and press on with the very changes that apparently him and Simon Thompson haven't talked about... lol... but remember he cannot sack every individual as then there is no royal mail.... do not forget the great benefit system we have in this country (due to be increased by inflation currently 10%) and an unemployment rate of @1.2million with @1.8million jobs available...... what i am saying is,is that anyone that's got a job has one and not many are looking for work,,, especially walking for 5-6 hours a day.....

I'm not disagreeing entirely Anger. When I said it'll be interesting to see what the figures are, I meant exactly that. I'll be as interested as anyone else. I'm not prejudging it one way or the other. All parcels and postal carriers have had a good couple of years, hell even Yodel made a profit for the first time in their existence thanks to the pandemic, but now it's unwinding and we're entering the 'new normal'. I don't know what that's gonna look like, only time will tell.

scamp... what film did you get that quote from???? he is on strike for one day a week through to december.....to fight for a decent pay rise and protect his job!!!!! next generation of the workforce will be on zero hours and tipping their cap at the master if royal mail gets their way...

Go and make yourself a nice cup of Horlicks and a digestive biscuit. Take long deep breaths.

i say anger..... i may do that later and i will take short steps tomorrow...

scamp you said"Last night a postie I was talking to broke down in front of me. Turning away, choking on words, and valiantly fighting back tears, this giant of a man said to me: want am I to do, mate? 19 f..k.n days?! What the f.ck am I to do?!" what did you say? go to amazon like i did? i bet he soon cheered up mate...

Teslo - "Why are you all on different hourly contracts ?"

Back in the day we were all on full time contracts - I think 40 hours, maybe 39.
Then RM started employing people as part-timers on 25 hour contracts. This still happens across a lot of the country.
In our office the 25 hour contract proved unfit for purpose so our new starters are on 30 hour contracts.
There was a programme to get the full time contracts down to 35 hours, with no loss of pay. They reduced them by an hour one year to 38 then a couple of years ago, to 37 hours.
As people leave they ask those on 30 hour contracts if they'd like to become full time (37 hours) to cover the work that needs to be done. Nearly everyone takes this.
Now, something strange happened when they moved 11 people in our office to 37 hour contracts. After a while they reduced them back down to 35 hours with no explanation. This happened a few months ago.
I'm on a 30 hour contract but, as I did a rural round which goes out on its own, when I cover that I was automatically moved up to a full timer with anything over 6 hours a day as overtime. For the majority of the time that was based on a 37 hour week, but now it's a 35 hour week, although the new postie that has it as his duty is on a 37 hour week.

If I'm doing anything other than my standard round I ask the managers what time they want me in as I'm happy to do a few hours overtime a week,
And people say we're not flexible!

Regarding your other points - I'd suggest FedEx figures are largely irrelevant to Royal Mail, or any national postal carrier. It's hardly news there's a worldwide near recession on and people with less disposable income buy less shyte on the internet.
Of course Wordwide parcels businesses have things in common with postal carriers but there are also fundamental differences.
It's only those that think all we deliver is parcels who think what happens in one will also happen in the other.

I'm not expecting the figures to be rosy but bear in mind in 2020 RM's half year losses were at £120 million. We'll see where we are in relation to that.

sharks anus.. we will see then... not long to go... here i go again with insults... must be catching baby shark do do do:-)

apologies for the term scum bag... as with insults like that temporarily lowered me to that of a shark running his belly off the ocean floor...

baby shark....so Dave ward s leftist agenda that's trying to help the working man is a disgrace????? ill tell you now its nothing to do with left wing politics. its to do with fair play.... you scum bag

scamp not one single department is on strike for 19 days!!!!! 4 days in October one a week.... then a rolling strike of areas which mean... 9 days... one a week I imagine. hope you put the guy right instead of fear mongering!!!!

This post makes me chuckle…pardon the pun..
And the union have sent out emails to all members warning them if they strike a lot of changes will happen…that striking will enable to spread up agreements,will give them the opportunity to claw some sick benefits back,change working practices,let people go,ect ect..wouldn’t want the union mongering would we:-)
Get in line boys

and thats 9 days total..... 1 day a week..... and then the crying posty as you say will work overtime to get his pay back.... and do you know what...these are the typical employees that are absolutely what royal mail want... overtime overtime overtime.....but will go in and then accept what we fight for without losing anything in the process...

scamp not one single department is on strike for 19 days!!!!! 4 days in October one a week.... then a rolling strike of areas which mean... 9 days... one a week I imagine. hope you put the guy right instead of fear mongering!!!!

Why are you all on different hourly contracts ?

Along with the over 55's this is probably the biggest problem with the company and why the system is open to abuse, you should all be on salaried annualised hours. All giving people 30, 35 and 37 hour contracts does is allow the over-time system to be used and abused.

Seriously, if the 19 day strike goes ahead there will be no pay rise for anyone, and you will see why come the Novemeber RNS.

If Companies like FED Ex are posting profiting warnings with no striking taking place, what do you really think RMG UK figures will look come November and February. The £758 has been spent, £130 was issued in dividends, £200 million was used for buy backs, GLS purchased Rosenau for £218 million and they probably have £100 million set aside and reserved for employees on top of the 2 % they have already received.

The CWU social media pages are just inciting the workforces of all the companies they represent to strike using very cheap influence and persuasion marketing gimmicks. It's worse than some of the nonsense Trump used to put out.

If you strike for 19 days and beyond whatever pot the company had set-aside for the employees will be gone, plus a whole lot more. I think at that stage, it's more than likely that there will be a lot more standing around doing nothing on the cards for many of you only it will not be outside any IDS offices.

Common sense needs to prevail here.