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Started: testpack3, Today 15:12
Last post: Dustyslay, Today 15:21
All I take from disaster stories, and old wives tails is a simple one.
These people been round far too long making bad investments, I'm surprised they made any real money.
I'm 11 months in, and done great up to now.
Only 40, I'll not be around here forever
Swaz and Castle now nothing about H2 market and it's uses. That is obvious by their posts on here.
Swaz made the ludicrous claim that cos like Shell will be flocking to PHE test centre. lol. For your education fellas, Shell are the Worlds largest producer of dirty H2 by far. Over 90% from SRM. Shell, 2 years ago, pulled out of the UK's H2 filling stations. Reason, No market. There will be a vast market for H2, not only for transportation ( as in FCs), but other applications. eg; 1000's of tonnes pa are used in the manufacture of stainless steel, where H2 is used as a Reducing Agent. Shell, obviously, would like a footprint in the green H2 production market, but as long as buyers are happy with the price they pay now, and the colour they get, Shell will keep producing H2 by SRM. Obviously buyers are happy at the present. It has just been announced that 2023 was the year of the largest consumption of Fossil Fuels on record. No coincidence, the largest number of global weather calamities also. Will only get worse if no radical action taken immediately. The first step on this is the banning of ICE motors. 30% of all oil consumption is in the transport market. Shell, et al, are looking at , eg; Siemens Electrolysers, that will be capable of making 600, 000 tpa of green H2 using green electricity. I think it was Redhornet who posted some details from recent PHE Board meetings. The interesting one, for me, was the move away from promoting 'waste to H2' to promoting the removal of waste plastic. Something I have repeated ad nauseam on here. The fotos of the TCC are impressive, but, unfortunately, no details of size were given.( if yes, I did not see any). I am sure that a plant to handle 10x the volume of waste plastic, need not be 10x physically larger. but, will be much larger then what I thought was envisaged when PHE/ Peel were talking about the footprint of a DMG facility at Protos.
One final thought, for Swaz and CP, operating temp of DMG unit. ?
This is not a FOAK, a FOAK is the first commercial sized plant. A DMG has already been built and tested, ( unless we have been fed BS by PHE). We were also led to believe that the feedstock was transformed to a plasma. Plasma temps start at typically 3000dC. No stainless steel containment can handle these temps. WE are therefore not talking plasma temps. Can the sages of 'all PHE knowledge' shed some light on this. Thanks in advance.
Philsum
It's unfortunate that you think the questions I've asked are ridiculous.
There's a lot riding on National Hydrogen of Australia linking up with PHE. The questions asked about their structure within the conglomerate and how they are raising money through the venture capital route really are things you should be considering.
20% swing or not.
Haha, that's a good one also Phil. Unless your up sh*t creek, then paddle away whilst I keep clean.
The quote that sticks with me most -
Love many, trust a few but always paddle your own canoe
Nice one Divvy. Like a good quote.
Chill out guys we have a basic time schedule. Whether you buy sell or hold is a personal choice and importantly should be detached from sentiment or influence.
Average brain sizes have shrunk over the course of the last 100,000 years, deterioration appears somewhat advanced on most chat boards.
Favourite Quotes: “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on” (Winston Churchill). “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent”(Eleanor Roosevelt).
Started: Castlepaul13, 27 Feb 2024 07:53
Last post: Dustyslay, Today 15:11
Castle, your telling everyone to sell?
What's that about?
Castle
You're clearly a fantasist with mental health issues.
And I don't say that in jest.
Neither do I say it to mock or ridicule.
You seriously do have mental health problems.
Castle
You've posted today that 12p is your marker for retirement.
On the 19th June at 22:27 you informed me that you had retired when you were 50.
Oow forgot one 💰 for red ⛺️🚀🍷
We need the herd to arrive on a spike to clear this seller out and let the SP be free to rise rapid.
With a possible TR1 .
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Castle the accountant
Started: Patxaran, Today 12:27
Last post: Scoobydriver, Today 13:34
Offcourse, your post still makes no sense.
If "version 2" for arguments sake is cheaper to make them so be it, there would still be the same mark up so what's your point.
If you wanted to buy something wouldn’t you like to buy it as cheaply as you can?
Why would FOAK cause a sell out Ptax, I'm confused. Perhaps I've misunderstood your post.
Surely on tests etc with the pilot plant, is by using c.i phe can then reduce costs in any way for future models then that's a good thing. No?
Certain people have really gone into ramp overdrive and with the SP standing still and big sells I think we’re heading for a sellout when the FOAK is approved or there’s a skeleton in the kiln cupboard. JMO. DYOR.
Started: Scoobydriver, Today 13:18
Last post: Scoobydriver, Today 13:18
Anyone who is holding, considering buying, or even considering selling on some of the doubt creating posts I'd say before doing any of the above do your own research.
Rotary calciner gas fed burners are not new, are used all around the world in manufacturing / industry, are a tried, tested and proven equipment.
Phe have the algo and the approved patent
GB Patent Application No GB1910309.2
That's pretty much the difference from what is "typical".
That's why I'm comfortable as a holder, I see no logical reason why using recirculated syn gas will not work.
I'm not buying more as the sp does appear to be in a cycle of buying/selling in a range where including the dealing spread your looking at +8%ish and higher to break even. But also I won't be selling on any temporary dip lower like often happens on aim market.
Still fully expect 2.5p possibly by end 3rd qtr without any news but simply on nearing pilot plant commissioning.
Good luck whatever your choice everyone.
Started: Scoobydriver, 20 Jun 2024 20:12
Last post: Metatron, Today 12:23
He is playing his game..
All I know is that sooner or later a scorpion WILL sting you
Meta - and Howie is probably the big seller.
Keep the price down and buy out PHE on the cheap???
Swazers,
Posting all these reasons why you should invest smacks of desperation I’m afraid,it won’t encourage any extra £’s to the share price.it’s almost as if you’ve been supplied with them or you are part of the company.
Investors know how this tune goes now, RNS up then 3 days later down.
Give it a rest. FFS.
Cherry picked info. If you read the Annual Report in full, you'll see the below:
Hydrogen takes off takes a back seat for PHE:
Sources of Revenue - 3rd June 2024 – PHE Annual Report
Our revenue generation will be derived from:
· Licensing our technology to developers globally
· Royalties - revenue sharing from output of Powerhouse designed solutions
· Engineering design
· Project and client engineer fees
PHE Business Strategy - 3rd June 2024 – PHE Annual Report
‘The strategy was revised in 2023 when it was agreed by the Board that waste to hydrogen would not be the primary marketing focus of the Group and that it would be waste to energy, based on the production of syngas.’
‘Hydrogen would be an option for projects that have a validated feedstock and most importantly a validated offtake.’
Hydrogen……..’The Board has every confidence this demand will continue to increase and by the end of this decade, the use of hydrogen as both a transport fuel and industrial natural gas substitute will be common. Powerhouse is in an excellent position to take advantage of this’
Plastics to Hydrogen No1 (Protos) - 3rd June 2024 – PHE Annual Report
‘For a long time this was our "Totemic" project. This has now moved to lower priority. PHE acquired 100% of Protos in 2023, with the JV itself being wound up’
I actually wouldn't be surprised if old Swazers was one of the Weiss clan..
Nothing would surprise me anymore.. keep your eyes open.. especially after Howie went off to HUI with the inside info...
Started: Moab, Today 09:33
Last post: Philsum, Today 10:57
Yea I stopped taking any notice of red and 15 lives when I realised they missed a 20% swing while only posting negativity and ridiculous questions to anything positive that was said for the last 2 weeks.
There seems to be more FUD than normal here. The daily large orders of 1Mil plus always seem to go through at the exact share price, all others are consistently either side of it which I find odd too.
I'm not worried in the slightest Castle. If I were I would not be invested here. I'm the same as everyone else in that I do not know with 100% certainty what the future holds for the phe sp, or for that matter the outcome of the pilot plant.
But what I do have 100% faith in is that there is almost nothing new in what phe are attempting
there is a global problem with waste plastic
there is a movement towards net zero
there is a drive towards hydrogen energy
there is a company (phe) with a solution?
Folk asking for a guarantee on this site are looking in the wrong places, we can all debate or discuss things but until validation it's just opinion. What appears to be happening now though is a number of posts that to me are worded to cause fear and doubt in a drive to encourage selling and in doing so achieve a lower sp.
The stuff about the Chinese having a replica.
How come the Chinese dont have a replica Ferrari and conqour F1
A replica (but improved) concorde and be the leader in supersonic aviation.
On the plus side, at least they should be able to replicate steel when required properties/performance is specified.
One thing I have cut and pasted is this. Seems like it's one less thing to worry about lol.
Who makes the best quality steel in the world?
The above ranking is according to the World Steel Association.
China Baowu Group. China Baowu Group is a state-owned company headquartered in Shanghai, China. ...
ArcelorMittal. ...
Ansteel Group. ...
Nippon Steel Corporation. ...
Shagang Group. ...
HBIS Group. ...
POSCO Holdings. ...
Jianlong Group.
Scooby don't worry the Kiln is all OK...
Pi on here have changed sides sold out and want cheaper entry..
NH + Patents + protos lots of news .
National H2 was founded on a mission to build the next generation of infrastructure through industry-leading technology that will connect millions of people with clean hydrogen energy for the next hundred years.
We intend to achieve this by building the world’s first network of plastic-to-hydrogen infrastructure across the APAC region, which will play a significant role in overcoming energy, waste, and climate challenges.
With 3.5 million tonnes of non-recyclable plastics in Australia, we are using a method for producing energy that will permanently remove damaging plastics from our oceans and other natural habitats.
Castle
It's a kiln, I'm sure the Chinese or anyone else for that matter could make one without too much trouble.
Powerhouse uk patent already approved, whilst European and Further Worldwide is ongoing.
That's quite a market to capture, even if someone in China was to have "a replica"
I'd be happy if the Chinese had one, with the pace they move at it might be quicker than waiting for the UK pilot plant to be up and running and proving the process lol.
Ps the above paragraph is a joke. It's phe tech that we're waiting on.
I assume that there will be an identikit kiln being evaluated in China.
Started: red_hornet, Today 10:23
Last post: red_hornet, Today 10:23
Just a starting point for some helpful questions for the AGM. If anyone wants to add anything, maybe copy and paste the below with your question added. I'll be sending mine to PHE anyway.
Can you expand what product National Hydrogen will be ordering, size of Kiln, what off takes they require (for example Hydrogen)?
Have National Hydrogen raised the capital funds they require to proceed with the PHE order and what are the delays to their order / deposit being placed?
There is clearly a large seller in the market, what does the company know about this and does it relate to any of the major shareholders?
What is the relationship like with HUI? The company’s press no longer mentions PHE and always refers to the technology as their own work, their hard work, their vision and their progress. Is the plan for them to still use PHE technology?
What are the plans for the commercial unit following successful results of the FTU. Will the commercial unit still be 40 tonnes, will it be a customer or PHE unit, when is it likely to be ordered?
What regulatory approval will be required for the first commercial site (FAT, TUV, local council/authority etc) and how long is it anticipated to take?
Where will the commercial Kiln’s be manufactured?
What is the cash runway looking like? Will PHE need to raise additional funding to launch the commercial units?
Started: jancux01aolcom, Today 09:55
Last post: Dustyslay, Today 10:04
Utter madness, one is trying to make the other look stupid.
Irony is, it's all rather stupid
Your personal differences don't belong here. Sounds to me like two narcissists want to live out their differences here.
Last I heard/read was mumblings of Ireland still being a goer PHE/HUI joint venture. I hope PHE keep HUI on the back burner in case anything transpires but I wouldnt be investing time and effort into them, HUI seem to have their own agenda and mention very little of PHE if anything at all when they announce anything hydrogen related.
Is there any remaining connection between Hydrogen Utopia's system and PHE's, or have they gone their separate ways?
When you realise you are sitting on the future, or at least holding shares in it.
Last post: Dustyslay, 20 Jun 2024 18:03
I can see this being massively lucrative for them, access to the European Market for 4 products.
Women's health and contraception Market huge for there advanced new medicine
Good work Dusty. Always nice to get a big jump like that in a day 🤣
I’ve just not had chance to look properly. But wouldn’t mind a bit of that. Got clear funds, but already but a chunk in to AFC. Will try and look over the weekend, although I’m camping, so signal dependant 🤔
Red,
What I say about those nasdaq low cap pharma at lows, femasys got me up 30% plus today!!! Plenty to go, just got 4 products certified for commercial sale in Europe as laws relaxed so.met criteria 😎
Started: Scoobydriver, 20 Jun 2024 09:43
Last post: 15LIVES, 20 Jun 2024 17:02
Castle
I can't disagree with what you say about hydrogen, Tesla and plastic waste.
Even PHE technology.
Our views on the ease to which PHE shall hopefully get there, however, differ markedly.
Either way, I hope your share price predictions become reality.
15 as i said I'm not selling or trading I'm buying , Hydrogen has a massive future and plastic pollution is a massive wild life killer ..
Even tesla is moving it's energy source to Hydrogen,,
More importantly PHE has created a unique fuel chamber system self sufficient for saving Energy for the running day to day of factories and plants ,, boooom will happen overpowering the sellers when PHE are open with gate fees !! Until then some spikes on news slowly creeping with Expectations,,,
Castle
Let's hope so.
How are things looking with the 'imminent' National Hydrogen confirmation? You know, that venture capital conglomerate.
More importantly, have you been listening to what a certain Mr Buffet has to say about them?
15
12p when we visit the Test centre working .
Castle
I'm flattered you think I have the influence to effect a share price by posting on here.
Shall we say sub 1p?
Started: Divvyup, 20 Jun 2024 14:02
Last post: Scoobydriver, 20 Jun 2024 15:40
Red, as I'm informed by someone who would 100% know, and that I also 100% trust with their info as when I asked about it. It was not under any question as a share holder.
Material was sourced to build a small pilot, and one full size rotary calciner from high temp stainless, thereafter plan was to build the rest full size on validation of pilot plant.
Hi Divvy,
Seems a fair analysis of the future development schedule. Just one question, will they need to order more FTU's (2.5 tonne) or move on to the TCC, which is what the commercial product will be based on?
Scooby - it would be handy to know the size of the additional Kilns, as 2.5 tonne isn't a commercial size.
Well worded Divvy, and pretty much how things could develop. Who knows how much work has already been done in the background, but I'll remind everyone that 14 kilns were planned before they went down the pilot plant small scale kiln was procured. That tells me there are plans well under way.
The arrival of the kiln marks a significant milestone, and the next stages involve installation, commissioning and testing. Here's an overview IMO of the expected next steps. I'll let posters guess the timescales :)
Installation of Ancillary Equipment: Setting up infrastructure and components to support the kiln's operation. Carried out by Engsolve.
Commissioning and Testing: Once complete, the R&D team will start commissioning and testing the kiln including Feedstock Testing Unit (FTU). Involving calibrating the equipment, optimizing performance, ensuring all systems function as designed.
Research and Development: The kiln will initially be used for research and development purposes, testing various waste streams, optimize the conversion process to gather data, refine their technology, and showcase the capabilities to potential investors and customers by providing tangible evidence of its effectiveness and potential benefits.
Scaling Up and Commercial Operations: Following successful commissioning and testing, PHE will focus on scaling up their operations. This includes building additional FTUs, establishing partnerships, and securing contracts for the deployment of their technology at a commercial scale.
Continuous Optimization and Innovation: Throughout the process, PHE will continue to optimize their technology, improve efficiency and explore innovative updates including remote management.
Regulatory Compliance and Permitting: As as in commercial operations, compliance with environmental regulations and obtain the necessary permits for waste-to-energy facilities.
Market Penetration and Expansion: With a proven technology with IP and successful demonstrations, focus will shift to penetrating the market and expanding their reach for new customers, industries, and geographic regions, showcasing the applicability and benefits of their waste-to-energy solution.
Long-Term Sustainability and Impact: Ultimately, PHE aims include reduced landfill waste, minimize environmental impact, and support the transition to a circular economy.
Started: Dustyslay, 19 Jun 2024 22:04
Last post: red_hornet, 20 Jun 2024 13:39
Castle - Not answering a single question asked of you, posting lies, fictional information and your general inability to deal with any factual posts, except by the way of silly insults; you’re making yourself look like King Castle the Clown of Clownsville – (that’s meant to be ironic)
Maybe we should have a new thread on here 'AGM Questions' - it would be good if these could be sent to the BOD pre AGM and PE can respond at the AGM? I'm sure everyone has a lot they would like to know more about / clarifying - and no, that is not like asking for reassurances.
Red ? 🤡
Castle - you can’t even get your come backs correct; nor are they remotely funny. Go and make up your next story about what a successful trader you were, while I have a look for more of the lies you’ve told on here!
Bought everything at .03p except £400 worth at 12p my ar se. Bought all the way down from 12p to 0.3p more like, hence the insistent ramping and lies!
Notice you’ve yet again fail to answer my factual questions?
15LIVES - it is funny, because we have very different writing styles (I suffer with word blindness) and I find it hard getting on a plane, let alone flying one 🤣
15 lives. Getting a good price to settle on is smart business.
Flipping trashing the stock relentlessly in search of it, is scandalous
15lives the only thing you fly around on is a broom with a ITM badge .
Started: Zodiac123, 20 Jun 2024 13:39
Last post: Zodiac123, 20 Jun 2024 13:39
Looks like it might be trying resistance at 1.60 again this afternoon .
Started: Castlepaul13, 20 Jun 2024 12:38
Last post: Castlepaul13, 20 Jun 2024 13:04
Plenty on here with 2 or 3 accounts, don't be fooled ,, hang coat and hat up and shut door on way out ...
Why is he here ?
Castle do you honestly think any t1t for tat posted on here has any bearing on share price? genuine question... I would not have thought so.
Writing books on investing 🤡
15lives you will need it !! I have Bought and sold ITM many times traded the sh'it out of them and placed my profit in PHE ,,, so thanks for my fee shares .... 😀..
So 15lives comes on here who has not invested in PHE to tell us he has bought ITM .
Bragging how he destroys forums telling bull until he gets his entry price .
Dishonest or what !!
Started: Naewise, 19 Jun 2024 10:23
Last post: 15LIVES, 20 Jun 2024 11:57
Hi Red
Have you heard some of these on here? They think we're the same person lol. I really am actually laughing out loud here at the disection of our intentions. I'm quite liking this complete misrepresentation in a funny kind of way.
We've got a poster on here who claims PHE's undertaking is going to be a 'piece of cake' because he watched his farther (his spelling, not mine) making machinery when he was younger. Meanwhile, we have another poster backing him up, saying Castle has got things correct, but not in the right order!
Sounds like a certain comedy sketch from way back.
No doubt if we weren't invested because we had no money, and were praising everything up to the hilt we'd be welcomed with open arms on here.
Reminds me of the time about four years ago when ITM Power were several pounds a share and I dared to post on their bulletin board that they would drop back to below 50p a share. I was literally told to f off by other posters. So I did. I bought back into them last week.
Alkin - Genuine question, but how would you have a say? Will one of you get a place on the BOD?
What influence would 1% have (if you could even achieve this)
Castle - 'Good morning sports fans , if it wasn't for the seller we would be on our way to 3p and we would be very happy to be on target with that brilliant RNS yesterday.'
Thanks Castle, basically just saying what I said almost 24 hours ago!! At least you agree with me on that :)
If everything is on track, can you confirm the following please (this is not a negative post or intended to have a go at PHE, but if people post garbage they need to back it up)
Where's the money from NH2 - why no update - not on track
Why is PE in the dark over where the deal is and it appears to have stalled - not on track
NH2 fund raise - no news and not on track
Who is the big seller - is/was that part of the plan / on track
What's happening with the agreement with HUI - doesn't seem to be on track
Is Longbridge on track
What's happening with Protos, is that on track
What's the next stage from this (FTU) small test unit - is that on track
Stop with the BS - and stick to the facts. Every time you ramp this and mislead people, someone will question it.
BlueToff we keep seeing warrants being issued and share options granted which is devaluing our shares and we have little say in what happens with PHE, a consortium would give us the ability to have a say and rather than dealing with continued hits in the SP
Dr A the question by R-H was "What would be the benefit of a consortium?'
You did not answer that question, all you said was 'I'm happy to buy more shares if we have enough interest, need a lot of us'
Another question for you to by-pass - why don't you buy more shares anyway - why do you need 'enough of us'?
Gives you a bit of 'power ' is that what you think? You want to run the show - thought you tried that and failed!
You've had your day cosying up to the powers that be and look where that got you - and a lot of daft sods that followed your every word. There are many people I would like to 'consort' with. Sorry M8 you are not one of them.
Anyone going to the AGM can they ask for assurances that there will be no sell off over the next couple of years if we get up and running very important to those who bought high.
I agree, in that I think the price will sit solidly around the 1.50 mark. Especially with those Austrslian orders yet to be announced.
More patents due also.
The SP has not even started its stroll yet.
Started: Tony1976, 20 Jun 2024 06:28
Last post: Tony1976, 20 Jun 2024 06:28
It's good to have as many people interested as possible. Although I don't think you'll have much luck trying to time this.
I can't see it going any lower any time soon, there's alot of interest now that the kiln has arrived ( it's bigger then I thought it would be) soon it will be put together, if it works then I think it'll fly and you've missed the boat, if it dosnt work then you probably don't want to be in anyway
Last post: Scoobydriver, 19 Jun 2024 14:16
Possibly Patx, but I'm not quite looking at it as a pure gamble. There's a lot to the overall project which has already been done before and is proven tecnology/process etc.
Waiting on the results post commissioning whilst obviously carrying a lower risk, will however carry a much higher share price should things go to plan.
Perhaps we'll see things pick up soon enough in expectation. I'd rather be holding at today's price than trying to buy if and when they announce "it's all systems go"
Personally I think the only thing that would move the share price significantly even before we’ve got the test unit up and running would be full funding for the NH2 contract as many in my opinion would be prepared to gamble on a successful outcome of the test unit. OMO. DYOR.
Started: bertmonkey, 19 Jun 2024 08:21
Last post: red_hornet, 19 Jun 2024 10:48
Cureboy - 'There are always a few chavs who need their beer money...day traders inevitably lose out over the long rub though. The odds are well and truly stacked against them'
This is a really bizarre comment; maybe ask some of the LTHs about this, who are massively under water and need 10p to BE!
The 'chavs' as you call them, are the ones massively profiting from companies like PHE . Selling on the spike and buying back on the retrace. Once it has a product to sell and a stronger base, they will invest for the longer term. Probably using their trading profits!!
It's a kiln, the difference is phe tech. SGS have been involved and were satisfied. I'd think it very unlikely that they've had it up and running and prove all which phe intend doing. That will come at the pilot plant.
Along with puwer regs work etc etc etc.
All normal, don't be distracted by any attempts to cause doubt. Nothing new in the process other than phe algo. Onwards and upwards
It's great news and no doubt there will be a spike today / tomorrow. The main SP spike will be on commissioning news of a working test unit, but really it should be once it's signed off from a regulatory point of view
Does anyone know if they will be getting 'FAT' approval on this unit?
Why +50% on this news? The kiln has arrived on site, as it was going to about now. It still needs to be installed and commissioned, when that is done and it (hopefully) works as intended the big gains will come in Q4. There will no doubt be issues to resolve in the commissioning phase as there always will be with kit at this stage of development but confident PHE have the skills to successfully resolve them.
There are always a few chavs who need their beer money...day traders inevitably lose out over the long rub though. The odds are well and truly stacked against them.
Last post: Barno61, 19 Jun 2024 10:18