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Many many people paid over £1 for Lloyds shares pre 2008/9 crash. Exactly how can that be better than holding cash all this time ?
NC
''Also never discount the years of inflation on the capital you have 'invested' and what it 'would' have bought you way back then''
Must have heard this at least 100 times by now - how many more to come?
Holding cash would have been one sure way to have reduced it's value over the last 15 years.
Holding Lloyds shares with dividends reinvested would have been the better hedge.
Stock investments overall in the long term are a better safeguard against inflation than holding cash
A1
''* Plz note, Fantasy Portfolio due to take a holiday for next few weeks,''
you could make it a permanent holiday - fixed timeline continually held position comparisons - pointless.
Chid, what your view doesn't take account of are investors who've lost their shirt on other stocks not paying dividends, leaving many investors sitting on paper losses with no return. The major flaw in your argument is it assumes all other investments are better and that someone leaving Lloyds to invest elsewhere will automatically do better, this is the real world where lots of variables come into play and nothing's certain, just because Lloyds is underperforming now doesn't mean it always will.
Clearly your arguments are aimed at damaging sentiment, among viewers on here, for reasons only known to yourself. Lloyds could go either way, but as long as it pays a dividend it'll offer a return to shareholders, many investors in underperforming non dividend paying shares aren't getting anything back.
Asperger, what this weeks, and most other weeks observation shows on your varied and interesting comparison chart, is, what Newchurch suggested years ago, that LLOYDS is a dire share, compared to 'all' listed today.
Thank you for confirming what most all have sadly come to realise over time by your time consuming but informative analysis
Clearly 'one' on here who is incapable of either seeing, or having others point out that Lloyds is one of the most dismal performing shares to hold will 'disagree' as, like all shares it 'depends' when you bought, and if you are able to keep throwing ever more huge amounts of cash to 'average down' to whether you 'think' it is good or not.
But, that person also has to consider the fact that to have bought other shares instead of falling in love with Lloyds , that they would be even richer, would have even less tied up in a very sensitive sector, and are ONLY making on it by constantly 'correcting' their folly of buying in 'too high' by then having to pump in ever more cash to redeem their mistake to lower their average.
Most haven't the capital to do that, AND if we did, would likely STILL 'accept' that Lloyds is 'dire' by the very fact of forcing us to keep throwing money at it to then assume we are actually 'in profit'.
If that money spent on Lloyds had been invested in many other shares, then they would 'see' how much they are truly losing by choosing Lloyds over many other shares out there. Also never discount the years of inflation on the capital you have 'invested' and what it 'would' have bought you way back then, to what it will buy you now. Be it property, land, or a bag of doughnuts.
Chances are for most lth's their perceived break even, is WAY higher that what they like to 'assume' it is, in 'purchasing power' which is why most invest to keep up, or hopefully exceed that power, and with Lloyds it has failed miserably to do either for many of us, IF we were honest.
* Plz note, Fantasy Portfolio due to take a holiday for next few weeks,
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
~~~ On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@454 =£935 v lloy 1905@45 =£857
~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@448 =£1500 v lloy 1553@45 =£699
~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 NWG & 1512 Lloy
Today's value, NWG 384@212 =£814 v Lloy 1512@45 =£680
~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@146 =£700 v lloy 1504@45 = £677
~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2806 =£1047 v lloy 1704@45 =£767
~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@63 =£2451 v lloy 3058@45 =£1376
~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@305 =£3273 v lloy 3367@45 =£1515
~~~ This week's observation - Red Sea troubles causes Bad week for bank(some low gaps closed), Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas/Yemen hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, It's 2024
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @45 = £6750 = +34% over ~44 months
~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @45 = £3825 = +2.2% over ~20 months
~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @45 = £5175 = +4.7% over ~18 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @45 = £13500 = -2.7% over ~30wks
~~~4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@45 = £11250 = +4.9% over ~14wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@45 = £12600 = +7.7% in 11wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
Current value - lloy 10,000@45 = £4500 = +6.5% in 6wk
~~~ 10th real deal, 11-1-24 I bought 5,0
Busy this week - I'll Update next week
Thank you for the kind words Newchurch - hope you are well and I wish you a happy and prosperous new year
Asperger, truly hope you recover soon. Thanks for all you do on this board as it's easy to cut and paste an article or sound off on our own opinions on what we 'think' , but you do so much for the Meerkat Comp, collating all the guesses and sorting out duplicates and posting updates, along with fantasy portfolios etc etc.
Likely the Comp would not have continued if not for your dedication, so hope you have a great N.Y as one true decent and selfless person on here.
Hung over - I'll Update next week
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
~~~ On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@467 =£962 v lloy 1905@48 =£914
~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@466 =£1561 v lloy 1553@48 =£745
~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 NWG & 1512 Lloy
Today's value, NWG 384@217 =£833 v Lloy 1512@48 =£726
~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@152 =£728 v lloy 1504@48 = £722
~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2843 =£1050 v lloy 1704@48 =£818
~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@64 =£2490 v lloy 3058@48 =£1468
~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@302 =£3240 v lloy 3367@48 =£1615
~~~ This week's observation - another uppy week for bank(but new gaps), Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, It's Christmas week
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @48 = £7200 = +43% over ~43 months
~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @48 = £4080 = +9% over ~19 months
~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @48 = £5520 = +11.7% over ~17 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @48 = £14400 = +3.8% over ~28wks
~~~4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@48 = £12000 = +12% over ~13wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@48 = £13440 = +15% in 9wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
Current value - lloy 10,000@48 = £4800 = +13.5% in 4wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
~~~ On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@458 =£943 v lloy 1905@47 =£895
~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@461 =£1544 v lloy 1553@47 =£730
~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 NWG & 1512 Lloy
Today's value, NWG 384@221 =£849 v Lloy 1512@47 =£711
~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@147 =£704 v lloy 1504@47 = £707
~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2834 =£1057 v lloy 1704@47 =£801
~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@65 =£2529 v lloy 3058@47 =£1437
~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@290 =£3101 v lloy 3367@47 =£1582
~~~ This week's observation - another uppy week for bank(but new gaps), Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Israel/Hamas ceasefire ended, Prince Harry wins case
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @47 = £7050 = +40% over ~43 months
~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @47 = £3995 = +6.8% over ~19 months
~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @47 = £5405 = +9.4% over ~17 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @47 = £14100 = +1.6% over ~27wks
~~~4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@47 = £11750 = +9.5% over ~12wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@47 = £13160 = +12.5% in 8wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
Current value - lloy 10,000@47 = £4700 = +11% in 3wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@468 =£964 v lloy 1905@46.3 =£882
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@457 =£1531 v lloy 1553@46.3 =£719
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 NWG & 1512 Lloy
Today's value, NWG 384@221 =£849 v Lloy 1512@46.3 =£700
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@143 =£690 v lloy 1504@46.3 = £696
~~~~~~~~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2829 =£1055 v lloy 1704@46.3 =£789
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@65 =£2529 v lloy 3058@46.3 =£1416
~~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@289 =£3101 v lloy 3367@46.3 =£1559
~~~~~~~~~~~ This week's observation - another uppy week for bank, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Israel/Hamas ceasefire ended, Farage still in the Jungle! Rwanda plan back on track?
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @46.3 = £6945 = +38% over ~43 months
~~~~~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @46.3 = £3935 = +5% over ~19 months
~~~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @46.3 = £5325 = +8% over ~17 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @46.3 = £13890 = +0.1% over ~26wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@46.3 = £11575 = +8% over ~11wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@46.3 = £12964 = +11% in 7wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
Current value - lloy 10,000@46.3 = £4630 = +9.5
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@478 =£989 v lloy 1905@44.5 =£848
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@458 =£1534 v lloy 1553@44.5 =£691
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 NWG & 1512 Lloy
Today's value, NWG 384@211 =£810 v Lloy 1512@44.5 =£673
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@142 =£685 v lloy 1504@44.5 = £669
~~~~~~~~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2816 =£1050 v lloy 1704@44.5 =£758
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@64.4 =£2506 v lloy 3058@44.5 =£1361
~~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@277 =£2972 v lloy 3367@44.5 =£1498
~~~~~~~~~~~ This week's observation - Uppy week for bank, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Israel/Hamas ceasefire ends, Farage still in the Jungle,
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @44.5 = £6675 = +32% over ~43 months
~~~~~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @44.5 = £3783 = +1% over ~19 months
~~~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @44.5 = £5118 = +3.6% over ~17 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @44.5 = £13350 = -3.8% over ~25wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@44.5 = £11250 = +5% over ~10wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@44.5 = £12460 = +6.5% in 6wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
Current value - lloy 10,000@44.5 = £4450 = +5% in 1wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@477 =£985 v lloy 1905@42.5 =£810
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@448 =£1501 v lloy 1553@42.5 =£660
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@206 =£795 v lloy 1512@42.5 =£643
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@142 =£685 v lloy 1504@42.5 = £639
~~~~~~~~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2824 =£1053 v lloy 1704@42.5 =£724
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@63.6 =£2498 v lloy 3058@42.5 =£1300
~~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@241 =£2590 v lloy 3367@42.5 =£1431
~~~~~~~~~~~ This week's observation - downy week for bank, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Budget tax cuts, Israel/Hamas ceasefire during hostage/prisoner exchange, Farage in the Jungle, Labour ditch Green pledge,
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
~~~~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @42.5 = £6375 = +27% over ~43 months
~~~~~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @42.5 = £3613 = -3.4% over ~19 months
~~~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @42.5 = £4888 = -1% over ~16 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @42.5 = £12750 = -8% over ~24wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@42.5 = £10625 = -1% over ~8wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@42.5 = £11900 = +1.7% in 5wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@478 =£985 v lloy 1905@43.4 =£827
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@468 =£1568 v lloy 1553@43.4 =£674
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@208 =£799 v lloy 1512@43.4 =£656
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@143 =£685 v lloy 1504@43.4 = £653
~~~~~~~~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2810 =£1063 v lloy 1704@43.4 =£740
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@64.2 =£2498 v lloy 3058@43.4 =£1327
~~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@244 =£2618 v lloy 3367@43.4 =£1461
~~~~~~~~~~~ This week's observation - steady week for bank, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Gov. reshuffle - Braverman out, Cleverly/Cameron in, Rwanda plan deemed illegal
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
~~~~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @43.4 = £6510 = +29% over ~43 months
~~~~~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @43.4 = £3689 = -1.36% over ~19 months
~~~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @43.4 = £4991 = +1% over ~16 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @43.4 = £13020 = -6% over ~23wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@43.4 = £10850 = +1% over ~7wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@43.4 = £12152 = +3.8% in 4wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@478 =£985 v lloy 1905@41.75 =£796
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@427 =£1430 v lloy 1553@41.75 =£649
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@197 =£756 v lloy 1512@41.75 =£632
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@136 =£651 v lloy 1504@41.75 = £628
~~~~~~~~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2850 =£1063 v lloy 1704@41.75 =£712
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@63.6 =£2475 v lloy 3058@41.75 =£1278
~~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@232 =£2489 v lloy 3367@41.75 =£1407
~~~~~~~~~~~ This week's observation - steady week for bank, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Remembrance weekend
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
~~~~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @41.75 = £6267 = +24% over ~43 months
~~~~~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @41.75 = £3551 = -5% over ~19 months
~~~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @41.75 = £4805 = -2.7% over ~16 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @41.75 = £12534 = -9.6% over ~22wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@41.75 = £10445 = -2.6% over ~6wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@41.75 = £11698 = -0.02% in 3wk
You make a fair point Asp but only in the relatively short term. My journey with Lloyds started back in the mid noughties and I can assure you it's been a different experience. Even with a few bouts of pound cost averaging over the years it's been pretty painful.
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@490 =£1009 v lloy 1905@42.4 =£808
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@440 =£1474 v lloy 1553@42.4 =£658
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@187 =£718 v lloy 1512@42.4 =£641
~~~~~~~~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@136 =£651 v lloy 1504@42.4 = £638
~~~~~~~~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@3193 =£1191 v lloy 1704@42.4 =£722
~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@67 =£2607 v lloy 3058@42.4 =£1297
~~~~~~~~~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@221 =£2371 v lloy 3367@42.4 =£1428
~~~~~~~~~~~ This week's observation - another bad week as bank report Q3 results, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Clock go back
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
~~~~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @42.4 = £6360 = +26% over ~43 months
~~~~~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @42.4 = £3604 = -3.5% over ~19 months
~~~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @42.4 = £4876 = -1.3% over ~16 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @42.4 = £12720 = -8.3% over ~21wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@39.8 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@42.4 = £10600 = -1% over ~5wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@42.4 = £11872 = +1.5% in 2wk
More bs
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@531 =£1094 v lloy 1905@39.8 =£758
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In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@445 =£1491 v lloy 1553@39.8 =£618
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In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@182 =£699 v lloy 1512@39.8 =£602
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In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@129 =£618 v lloy 1504@39.8 = £599
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In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@3025 =£1128 v lloy 1704@39.8 =£678
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In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@64 =£2490 v lloy 3058@39.8 =£1217
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In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@200 =£2146 v lloy 3367@39.8 =£1340
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This week's observation - another bad week as bank report Q3 results, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Clock go back
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
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1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @39.8 = £5970 = +18% over ~43 months
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2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @39.8 = £3383 = -9.5% over ~19 months
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3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @39.8 = £4577 = -7% over ~16 months
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5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @39.8 = £11940 = -14% over ~20wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@39.8 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@39.8 = £9950 = -7% over ~4wk
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8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@39.8 = £11144 = -4.8% in 1wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@545 =£1123 v lloy 1905@41.6 =£792
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In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@435 =£1457 v lloy 1553@41.6 =£646
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In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@219 =£841 v lloy 1512@41.6 =£629
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In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@145 =£695 v lloy 1504@41.6 = £626
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In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@3093 =£1154 v lloy 1704@41.6 =£709
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In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@67 =£2607 v lloy 3058@41.6 =£1272
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In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@199 =£2136 v lloy 3367@41.6 =£1401
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This week's observation - another poor week for all bank stocks, Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, 2x by-elections swing to Labour
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
~~~~~~~~~~~
1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @41.6 = £6240 = +24% over ~43 months
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2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @41.6 = £3536 = -5.5% over ~19 months
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3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @41.6 = £4784 = -3% over ~16 months
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5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @41.6 = £12480 = -10% over ~19wks
~~~~~~~~~~~ 4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~~~~~~~~~
7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@41.6 = £10400 = -3% over ~3wk
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8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@41.6 = £11648 = -0.44% in 1day
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@548 =£1129 v lloy 1905@43.2 =£823
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In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@456 =£1528 v lloy 1553@43.2 =£671
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In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
Today's value, nwg 384@226 =£868 v lloy 1512@43.2 =£653
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In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@153 =£733 v lloy 1504@43.2 = £650
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In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@3047 =£1137 v lloy 1704@43.2 =£736
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In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@66 =£2568 v lloy 3058@43.2 =£1321
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In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@213 =£2286 v lloy 3367@43.2 =£1445
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This week's observation - poor week for all bank stocks, russia/ukraine hostilities rattle on - Hamas/Israel kicks off - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
~~~~~~~~~~~
1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @43.2 = £6480 = +28% over ~42 months
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2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @43.2 = £3672 = -2% over ~18 months
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3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @43.2 = £4968 = -0.6% over ~15 months
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5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @43.2 = £12960 = -6.6% over ~18wks
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4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts
~~~~~~~~~~~
7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@43.2 = £10800 = +0.7% over ~2wk
started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th oct 2016 i invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so i could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
on 8th oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 bp. shares & 1905 lloy shares
today's value, bp. 206@506 =£1042 v lloy 1905@42.6 =£812
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in april 2017 invest4life suggested i add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
today's value, glen 335@445 =£1491 v lloy 1553@42.6 =£662
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in july 2017 nucky suggested i add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
today's value, nwg 384@224 =£860 v lloy 1512@42.6 =£644
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in july 2017 utrickytrees asked that i add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
today's value barc 479@155 =£742 v lloy 1504@42.6 = £641
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in sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 dge & 1704 lloy
today's value, dge 37.3@3044 =£1135 v lloy 1704@42.6 =£726
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in april 2020 theosus asked that i add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
today's value, niox 3891@65.4 =£2545 v lloy 3058@42.6 =£1303
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in april 2020 theboard asked that i add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 rr. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
today's value, rr. 1073@209 =£2243 v lloy 3367@42.6 =£1434
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this week's observation - poor week for all bank stocks, russia/ukraine hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, tory party conference, hs2 northern legs scrapped, age to buy ***s to increase, labour win scottish seat, labour party conference
a very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, imo those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds.
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1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
current value - lloy 15000 @42.6 = £6390 = +27% over ~42 months
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2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
current value - lloy 8500 @42.6 = £3621 = -3% over ~18 months
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3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
current value - lloy 11500 @42.6 = £4899 = -1% over ~15 months
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5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
current value - lloy 30,000 @42.6 = £12780 = -8% over ~17wks
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4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts
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7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
current value - lloy 25,000@42.6 = £10650 = -0.7% over ~1wk
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