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It's not just EVs that need lithium; battery storage for wind and solar power is now taking off, and old EV batteries can be used as backup power storage for homes. I've just read that the battery from an electric Range Rover, after it's no longer useful for powering the car, can be used for homes and can store enough electricity to power an average home for a month.
Potato head, I think that article may have got the detail wrong concerning a month, 4 days they can power the average British home, I know people who do it now, one big long range car lithium pack. You don't have to take it out of the vehicle, some cars have a socket, which providing you wire up the correct connection on your house, you simply plug in your car to the house and it will power the house up to four days if there was a power cut. But they are probably doing the system below:
People who have renewable energy on their homes which produce electricity are also setting up quite complicated lithium set ups. They work out the maximum energy they will use over a set period have the renewable energy power anything switched on it can cope with, when there is a surplus, charge the lithium batteries ready for peak use, then once charged put back into the grid and get paid for it. When they turn on anything electric it takes it from the renewable source and lithium batteries first, only going to the grid for energy when other sources no longer have sufficient energy - possibly in this situation a British home may last a month on a large car battery without being charged with the right set up.
Interesting the way it is going. Others are looking at cheap energy charging and releasing battery energy in peak times. Still quite new in many aspects.
Lav....... Unless the person was using very little electricity, I felt that a month was a bit excessive. However, it does demonstrate that even after you stop using them to power an EV, these old EV batteries do have a useful life.
Potato, I think it will be great once the technology works economically for everyday families and it is very close if not already out there.
For people working from home, or heavy users and or in an area with electricity cables above ground subject to power cuts it is very good technology now.
If I did it today I would want the batteries outside the house and in a suitable enclosure.
There are some new silent wind generators which could really make a difference, a couple of small solar panels and a small silent wind generator would build up some power storage. You get the feeling we are very near now to cost effective self generation with the grid as a back up and potential source of revenue.
Check out Power Roll Solar if you have never heard of them before
I hope they do great, that tech is brilliant - yes not as efficient as traditional panels - but they are improving it all the time
The massive benefit is its so lightweight, so you can stick on top of flat roofs, bus stops, pretty much anywhere that traditional panels are too heavy for.
Hell why not stick it on top of every single bus/lorry and car to give the EV a little top up.
Horult, if you are so sure of Power Roll Solar, there is no need to ramp them on the KOD board...However, we must be respectful of those that are generous, kind hearted, open and wish well for others.
Horult, it is interesting and the availability of the raw materials too, that is the utopia that everyone is searching for and of course price to make them cost effective.
The website lets them down - little logic to it and cutting the top of people's heads off not great.
If it is a good company the website undermines that.
I was not cross ramping Surin
Power Roll are not listed on stock exchange so you can not buy them! so how is it a ross ramp?
the conversation was regarding battery storage for solar which is highly relevant or a lithium company - I was just pointing out what the future could potentially hold regarding solar, as the flexibility and low cost like this could make a huge difference moving forward
Maybe, but what does it have to do with KOD? You don't mention batteries once in your post.
Perhaps try reading the whole thread clappa instead of just my post in isolation, you can see it clearly logically follows on the conversation
Apologies horult for accusing of cross ramping. There is plenty demand for lithium based batteries/energy storage solutions..