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CPI data helping consumer stocks. but not all stocks are up. oil stocks look weak. KIE nice bit of blue. feeling quite good about my buy couple days ago.
Nice bit of blue buying; some really big buys the other day but then loads of selling - I'm really confused on this share. However, managed to fill up again, and will continue to do so....... happy hunting
I can accept all of your last post, but please don't refer to me as 'Dude's
Catch up again in a couple of years? I will put a new battery in the clock. See if that helps.
My dear fellow, you are such a do gooder, a wonderful white knight on these pages! You may be more similar to me than you would like to admit!
Who is to say I don't have an interest? Have said many times, I don't provide a commentary on what my positions are on any share, two reasons 1. It makes no difference, 2.None of your business and 3 You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
As for countering misinformation, well, again, who is to say I don't provide a noble service to counter all the silly "this is going to rocket" "this will be xx next week/month/year.
I have never offered advice, you however dispense advice on a very regular basis, naughty naughty.
No, we are similar in many ways, but for a big difference; ou are a self confessed loser, I on the other hand am a genius at this game.
Anyway, this time I really do have to go, so goodbye for now, enjoy your losings and fare well dude.
Meta, I drop in on this board occasionally just to see whats happenning as I have an interest in this company. As a rule I would only post to counter the comments by those who are not, and seem to think its worthwhile making negative comments when it suits there ego. Some may believe that you have some insight. So your claims need to need countered.
I would never give advice, I have lost far more than i have gained over the years.
I started my working life with French Kier so I have always followed their evolution. Thats my interest.
I will,however, always seek to counter the charlatans i come across. Even if life is too short!
See, even when you try to disagree, you end up agreeing!
Are you the one who demanded I cease posting here a few years ago? I can't remember, there were a few odd stalkery types obsessing over me at the time. I do miss the "this is going rocket to [insert preposterous value]" posts back then.
Btw, what are your motivations for posting here? Yoiu never did say.
Anyways, very important matters to attend to, so bye bye for now
I agree you were. In the same way that a broken clock is correct twice a day.
I was as right then as I am now, closer to 0 that 200
LOL in deed. 15th Oct 2020 - KIE sp was 45p
Meta post : -
" Under 75m M/Cap, chances of getting a meaningful RI away diminishing.
Aggressive de-leveraging an/or cash raise still required.
Still think 0p is more realistic than £2.
But wthdik? Have only been consistently right with this share for the past 2 years."
Funny thing is their was a succesfull open offer and the Kie sp was 130p by July 2021.
I fail to see your motivation for posting here. It takes all sorts I suppose.
Lol, I have been consistently right on this share and others for years now.
Agree with others, around 40p is your next level of support to look for. But hey, go and ejaculate your cash at 58p if you know better, no skin off my nose
I'm involved in the healthcare sector; and nearly every hospital site I visit Kier are the main contractor or PFI operator, so they have a bountiful volume of projects - but yes - they've got to be profitable. Normally I would fill my boots when casdh allows, but I think this is going to fall further so will wait in the side line to see what happens for the rest of the week. As stated previoulsy and others, debt pay down is essential. Last week there seemed to be some buy in from institutional investors as the volumes were high, so was hoping a little confidence was creeping back in. Unfortunately they've already lost on last week's pricing. 40 plus p would certainly see me buying more - it is after all a long term game - and hopefully not another Carillion! I'd be quids down :( - c'mon Kier get some confidence in the market place !
A big dose of "deja-vous" on here. 2 years ago Meta was writing the company off but the believers made 50-100% gains.
However I am less confident now , than I was then, for a short term profit. 2 years ago we had the anticipation of the Kier living sale and the reduction of debt through the equity raise. The board have done broadly what they said they would do, albeit there are some items to conclude. The sale of Tempsford Hall for one.
With all the macro uncertainty, having to service a substantial debt, with all the pressure to secure turnover that brings, is far from ideal. If they were cash positive like many other contractors, we would not be at this level, as the operational teams are good.
I still have a significant 'sentimental' holding here but I am looking to AIM for shorter term trading gains or losses. It seems to be less affected by the real world economics.
I doo sleep easier knowing the people like Meta has our backs covered and is very generously trying to ensure we all don't make mistakes. (Like the one he did 2 years ago)
On what basis can you say the SP will hit an all-time low? Providing there are no skeletons in the cupboard and the projects taken on have had the due diligence of the management in terms of profitability, the conclusion to be drawn here is that the SP will come off these low levels.
expect this is going down to the low of 43p before any possible bounce, its so close that the mark is now almost a flame for a moth. To many ambulance chasers involved in kier contracts.
Is it likely the highly experienced management team at Kier is totally incompetent in taking on contracts at cost or even worse - at a loss!? I would say highly unlikely so would draw the conclusion that the SP at these levels is compelling!
Today has given you your answer.
Sub 60p. A couple hundred trades.
Pitiful.
When will you people learn?
I noticed the CEO, FD and other got some hefty LTIP share awards this week which mature in 3 years time. That timescale fits nicely with a return to regular dividends - certainly in years 2 and 3 at the latest? Share price will rocket over that period IMO....
Do we think that 60p was bottom of the dip and now investors are starting to buy back in? I know I cleared up another 1k of shares yesterday at 60.3p - happy days. GLA.
You've slipped past the 65p support.
Try learning about charts and trends before spending your no doubt hard earned cash on this dog.
Often they are more likely sells. If you look at the bid and ask in the previous hours. The colour means little.
The last set of results showed an operating margin that reached the medium term target in year 1. The issue is the remaining debt which will require 3 or so years of similar performance to enable it to be reduced to a level that would allow a dividend to be considered. It’s the long game with this one but could look very good in 2 to 3 years.
Can someone please explain why vastly more buys than sells over numerous days leads to a drop in SP? Buying them cheaper than 'ask' price?
Some big buys today.......... oh how I wish I had some spare cash, another week to go to see if anything left out of my salary :) and I'll be topping up GLA
SP at these levels reflects a business that has lost the majority of its client base and operating existing contracts at cost or marginal profit which is not the case. As disappointing as the current situation is we need to take the long view - this will come good IMO!
Snoop. Plenty of opportunity still for you. I am not sure where this will end up. Their debts are still perceived as an issue by the looks of it.