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Ashton. Another facet of your personality and strange investment tactics that I find quite weird; you appear to be saying that once you've sold a co. you are wasting your time researching it further and should forget all about it and move on. That may suit you as you might then have little or no one to counter your perpetual bullish promotion of Jay. Me, I prefer to utilise what knowledge I have acquired about a company to my advantage - I will invariably continue to monitor co.s that I already know pretty well and will ever be on the look out for any possible profitable trade. Why waste all that knowledge I have acquired? What would be a waste of time is to move on and discard that information as you would recommend I do.
I'm certain Jay will eventually expire worthless, it's a crap company run by a crap BOD. However, that doesn't mean to say there's not money to be made trading the spikes created by the ramping bs that Jay often issues and which you then regurgitate and embellish in your usual predictable style and with your predictable regularity.
Damnations Chirpy, I am trying to post more often than Ashton. Grrr
Long time shareholder, very disgruntled with those in charge, and their escapades elsewhere. I love JAY more than other shares due to the comedy value, but also a continual reminder of investing red flags - so despite losses it had value (in terms of lessons learned).
I do feel obliged to challenge the True Believers too.
Another rudimentary lesson.
4. If after doing (1), (2) and (3) you are CONVINCED that the company is a bad investment don't waste your time, move on. Why waste your energy on a lost cause or a situation that cannot be changed?
Helpful lessons for successful investing, lessons that will help to avoid both stress and loss of capital
1. Be very careful of posters who are so deluded that despite losing 97% of the value of their own investment they continue to strongly promote the company that has failed them so miserably. Read their posts, be amused by the incredible level of investor bias but pay no heed to their inane ramblings and constantly bullish posts. Remember that they have lost nearly all of the value of their investment by following their own opinion - don't make the same mistake.
2. Research the company. If it has a long history of making over optimistic statements and an equally long history of failure to achieve those objectives then tread very carefully - history has already illustrated the poor quality of the management team.
3. Check if any BOD members have had positions in any other companies and see how those companies have performed. If all of those companies also illustrate a history of under performance, over optimistic news releases and near total loss of any shareholder value then it is unlikely that the management will perform better in any other company.
These are very rudimentary lessons that all successful investors may utilise. It is always surprising just how many losers fail to follow even these simplest of measures.
Polite question please.
Ashton is viewed by some as a JAY mouthpiece, he has posted 70 times in the last month.
You say you are not invested ( or only marginally so ) so if you've posted 69 times in the same period what deductions can anybody be reasonably expected to make ?
KAT. If you can be bothered, please read.
https://oecd.ai/en/wonk/ai-act-manipulation-methods
"I considered that you were an investor. Like JAY you assume the role of a pumper transvestite as investor with wishful thinking."
"I think I prefer a transparent, high blood pressure good person (a dumb altruistic in your sense) than a sarcastic con."
Oh dear, that was some outburst! It's not good for your blood pressure. Anyway here are a few helpful lessons to ponder over:
Lesson No.1: Never blame others for one's poor investment decisions.
Lesson No.2: If one is CONVINCED that they have made a poor investment decision, the choice is there to sell up and move on. If one decides to still stay invested, stop moaning and groaning.
Lesson No.3: High blood pressure can cause serious health risks. Never get stressed over one's investment decisions. Health is more important than wealth.
Best to grow up and understand these home truths.
A. actually I considered that you were an investor. Like JAY you assume the role of a pumper transvestite as investor with wishful thinking.
As there is nobody else, you keep downplaying evidence all the time. Even when bs happen you create a new benevolent alternative for harmful actions from BOD, spread seed of doubt or possible hypothetical remote scenarios ou dig in everyone’s post to find contradictions. It seems that you are likely to be paid by BOD, you are one of them or you just play short.
I think I prefer a transparent, high blood pressure good person (a dumb altruistic in your sense) than a sarcastic con.
Thanks for that; excellent synopsis of JAY.
Condescension, denial and haughtiness create a good mix. Being dismissive adds another level of characterlessness. Some people like to feel the whip…well…
Calm down, Altruists. This is not good for your blood pressure.
IvRoche, i am sorry to cause a bit of tachycardia.
I was joking of course. Mining is a joke in Disko pubs.
As Jay will not get any licences for O&G in Greenland I am wondering how the (almost certain) sell out or merger with WFE may be constructed. With Jay's sp on the floor it makes sense to me for the Jay BOD to announce a 'fantastic' 'shareholder enhancing' take over by WFE - after all it is WFE that has the O&G licences and not Jay. I'd expect existing Jay shareholders to lose out big time and inversely the BOD (and shareholders) of WFE to benefit. I'm not certain of the logistics governing this kind of merger or takeover - can anyone with a broader knowledge set out the possible scenarios.
You said always a big player needs to come and rescue a company without logistics and field staff? is that a breakthrough discovery?
I dont have patience to check my own previous posts but...ok, you said.
Yes we have a Club of people (I am not a bot) that became critical and fed up off the recurrent low level schemes to erose our investment. And since you are being ironic A. let tell that there is also a Club of Wishful Thinkers, no matter who bad things go. In the last 2 years, name just ONE fact that really happen that made JAY a good investment. And don't refer BOD changes, RNS and marketing conversations/interviews. I meant, ONE real fact.
To downplay a miserable management, to support an absent honest and competent team in the hope that pebbles and rocks are going to become Norilsk and after all is just dynossaur fart is a horrible outcome for many investors. I am glad that for some, a six digit loss ( and i am refering to pounds) is possible to be airbagged in a larger portfolio...but for many..it was part of their retiremwnt and had a huge impact in their lifes.
Yes, if that makes me a member of the so called Club Altruistic that Were Screwed by Jay, i am in.
Just dig in the posts archive and aee what was the talks in 2021-2023-2024...a joke. From minerals to gas.
By the way A., and since Monty Pithon are gone and my non sense posts once in a while are just ironic, explain me why no one read all available reports from all Greenland. Greenland is not like Africa in 1850!Most cartographic data, ground mineral profile surveys and even drone magnetic surveys were completed 1990-2010. Kobold only brought an AI that we don't know what it is and if it is really reliable (just because Gates and Bezos invested doesnt make it good).
The real truth is that BOD in the last 4 years wasnt capable of a SINGLE act that could translate into real facts in field in the direction we all hoped for.
So, and this is not a manifesto, if anyone reads this i leave all with this gem:
"At Aerotyne International, we are continually innovating and pushing the boundaries of what's possible with our radar detector technologies. We have developed sophisticated algorithms and signal processing techniques that can filter out noise, effectively enabling our devices to detect even the faintest signals"
Yes, Aerotyne...Bluejay...Go and see the Wolf in Wall Street. Troy seems to be Belfort mining version.
Ashton – your refusal to answer my questions is quite enlightening. Others have also asked you to answer those questions but you have thus far not done so. What is this saying? On the topic of possibly the biggest step change announced by Jay (morphing into an O&G explorer) you have no opinion to disclose and refuse to answer questions regarding this extremely important matter. The reason you haven't divulged an opinion yet is that being like a lackey boy for the Jay BOD you have yet to be given your opinion. Being little more than a mouthpiece for Jay you have no news release as yet to regurgitate and to embellish with your own style of UPPERCASE emphasis. It is my guess that you'll offer an opinion as to this game change moment only once Jay have released some more bs which you can regurgitate. Then you will be able to safely tow the company line. Until that time you haven't the backbone or strength of character to form your own opinion. Instead you again blinker yourself to reality and harsh facts that threaten and contradict your narrative and continue to plough your chosen furrow. Indeed, you describe the many constructive and knowledgeable posts of the last day or so as being noise and a waste of time – that in itself illustrates that you are burying your head in the sand and ignoring the FACTS. Unlike a lot of your posts that are nothing more than innuendo, claims and heresay (which cannot be proven or otherwise) a lot of these recent posts contain FACTS. FACTS which can be researched and found to be ACCURATE. But, still you chose to ignore them because you will not be dissuaded from your misplaced believe that Jay is a good investment. I kind of understand what must be your absolute desperation (having seen the value of your investment plummet by 97%) but any credulity that you may once of had is rapidly disappearing as you refuse to face FACTS.
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IvRoche - Yes, you haven't missed much and what a waste of time all this noise. By the way, we now have a Club of Altruists on this board and some have already and openly declared their membership. But I thought anonymity was the truest expression of altruism.
Getting back to JAY, look out for the RNS update on Disko. I have always said that at some point Disko will need a major mining company as a partner with or without KoBold.
After catching up on the last few days posts, doesn't look like I have missed much but what a complete waste of time - any discussion appears to completely drowned out by nonsense posts. (Although I did chuckle about the one about the Cod fisherman on machinery on Disko island).
Anyway good luck to all genuine long term holders, it's been a painful ride, and hope Jay comes good at some point.
Are you hosting Cat?
I’ll supply the Skippy burgers if you bring the space cakes!
Should we join for a BBQ?
we all know we here to talk bs, this company does not comply to transparency and integrity standarts.
Rach. It wasn’t always like that. Early Ashton was a perfect regurgitation of prior RNS, very factual, and very helpful. Built huge credibility. As Ashton had evolved (and share price plummets) there has definitely been the drop by drop introduction of hearsay snippets, wait for it.. etc
And introduction of personal effects
Humour (kind of)
Spurious quotes (seem to have stopped)
Interesting
Ashton - I'll ask again in my nicest voice, would you be so kind as to answer the questions below, I, and I think other board members, would appreciate your insight into these very important issues.
If I may ask a few direct questions to Ashton (as I can't see where you've addressed these important points)–
1. what do you think of the news of a uturn in strategy and the complete contradiction and dereliction of Jay's 'commitment to environmental sustainability'?
2. Does the new hydrocarbon strategy meet with your approval?
3. How do you think the new strategy will sit with EnergyBreakthrough? Do you think they will be in favour?
4. How do you envisage JAY obtaining any O&G licences?
5. Do you view the related party associations to White Flame as being a good or a bad thing for JAY holders?
Thanks for your assistance.
EnuffRMbs - Agree, Ashton that really is a rather silly and pointless post, certainly not your finest moment. In your usual style you tease and intimate but can't produce the goods. In the past it's been a succession of classics along the lines of 'I've been told....but cannot say more' or 'I'm reliably informed.... but cannot say more'. Now you've identified an ex-employee of Jay but won't name them. Are you afraid of the identity police bringing charges on you? LOL. Or are you just talking rubbish and have no evidence. Are you afraid of recrimination if you are proven wrong? So what if an ex-employee of Jay is on this board - would their insight into the running of Jay and snippets of info not be an invaluable asset to enrich all of our knowledge and understanding of Jay? For the record I've never worked for Jay.
I admire enuffRMbs' altruistic motives, me I just like to see ALL information being available - bull and bear. You have been constantly pushing the bull for over 4 years - why do you have a problem with anyone now illustrating the bear? Is your argument not standing up to scrutiny or failing in the overwhelming evidence of the bear case? I guess it is on very shaky ground now that your investment has lost 97% of its value over those 4 years.
Trouble is Ashton, they are important and relevant questions. So would you answer them anyway? Perhaps if one of your pals posted them instead of Rach?
ChirpyCheep - I think I am right in saying I have always answered questions put to me. But if I have a choice, I avoid engaging with people who resort to using abusive language at me. I do the same in my private life. For me, money is not everything but decent behaviour is. I am what I am.