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This mornings RNS is clearly positive news & shows JW & his team have been very busy in the background.I have read the various lengthy postings on this board for me I have full confidence in the INFA team & look forward to their next updates.
Hopefully you will all make up your losses -- It seems every time i buy im at a loss but hopefully all change sooner than later . Good luck all hope we have a better day .
I am sorry to all those losing on this , I am losing too,
Surley if you take aim shares you should only bet what you can afford to lose ,
I made and sliced last year but taken stock since so underwater.
I think jw will turn this round now we have h&w , that was a shrewd buy.
In my eyes infa should have had the licence before any work was done and it's a **** up . Jw needs to rns progress this year , I feel the truth has not been told.
H&w can resue this, to attract so many ii it must have value in droves and as it's in the pot with storage I can see a positive outcome but it's not overnight ,
You cannot build a company with peanuts and fundraising comes with the territory.
Pete. I take it you also on a loss. Who can’t be at 0.31p? . I assume you hold. Appreciate your sentiments. This is my 4th Placing here so I have been paying their wages for 2 1/2 years.
Feel taken for a mug now. Especially after buying at 0.35 on Tuesday. The market had it all sussed. Still naive after all these years.
All our discussions revolve around speculation it seems. Apart from acquisition of H and W where is any news on anything at all? Presence of Allianz means a serious investment . One could argue positive .Buthow mny years will the share sit in the bottom drawer until promised deadlines are taken seriously and delivered upon. Do you read this JW.? There is a notion of honour to all stakeholders here. Long term holders are real people too. It is nearly end 2019 !!!
And we are back at Placing price!!!
It’s possible but I’ve never known it.
End of year deadline prob refers to by end of year 2020 knowing the promises broken so far. Chip evident on shoulder here!
Interesting posts this afternoon. A few long term holders stepping up to indicate their state of loss here.
Of course I agree with crl123 when he points out that the LTHS have paid the price of the II's potential profit. Through various BOD's the existing shareholders were never included in the placings. That is unless one includes the cynicism if the recent Primary Bid and OO. That foolish exercise raised £210K before expenses which, in effect, means it raised next to nothing.
I sympathize with Spanner and SI. Of course I hope I am wrong but I'd wager that neither of you will ever see your investment returned.
I thought spud's point about the Riverfort conversions was interesting but on reflection I don't think it has very much to do with the current malaise. One of the reasons for that is that private investors are becoming increasingly nervous at the complete absence of good news ,( or indeed any news ) in relation to the IM project. I repeat what I have said on previous occasions : No entity has a binding commitment to the IM Project and until that changes in terms of debt provision or equity provision nothing good will transpire here.My chagrin relates,( among other things), to the fact that at this time last year we were told that all that was just about sorted! A bit like the new Chairman who would be appointed within six months and who still hasn't appeared.Joke stuff!!
Tango1, I hope you're correct and tomorrow we're going to have a, (conclusively good news ),RNS. Hope springs eternal !
Spanner and Si. I respect the price you first paid and the losses you are probably sitting on. ANd I thank you for your resonance Spanner. My frustration runs ocean-deep. Here and elsewhere oon AIM. The AIM addiction to volume leaves me despairing. They seem to need a fix or they just bring it right back down. Where is intrinsic progress??? It feeds the quick-sell mentality which keeps the circle going.
We shareholders have paid for the running of IM since we eah joined with repeated Placings and have now paid for H and W and Allianz get to pick the fruit at 0.28-0.3p !!! Shareholders treated abysmally from the beginning. Nota Bene BOD if you take a moment out to read the common peoples’ views. Yes Tango...they owe us a few RNS’s !!! Well overdue. Like all those deadlines. I feel shareholders treated with utter disdain and it’s payback time IMO. The ii’s get the goodies. Even Monday’s buyers are out of pocket !!!!
THis is not meant to be a whinge. I hope it is the truth. It is certainly how I see it.
Time to meet those overdue deadlines???
Respect to all the very LTH’s and us 2 1/2 yr holders from the takeover. We have paid for this company ourselves. Time for some reciprocal communication !!!
Tango...thanks for keeping hopes up.
JW.....match the deadlines which you promised and set !!!
Yep Si
Interesting they are proposing to run a 600mm diameter gas pipe from the gas main to Kilroot power station...
Hey Spud, liked the newspaper article you posted on twitter earlier today. Interesting.
It's Riverfort imo, not just actually converting but the threat of convertibles will put a lot off.
If we can get some clarity if this debt is to be restructured it would greatly help sentiment imo
My first purchase was 21/01/2012 @ 13.68p lol
RNS tomorrow to cheer us all up again.
CRL123, I feel your pain and completely agree - I've got some at 14p FFS.
So what was all that about? We get an ii owning nearly 10% and the stock leaps. Now we are right back where we started ( almost). Still 55% down on breakeven. Makes something of a mockery of a true market. More a casino based on volume of punters buying chips. I bought more only to be able to buy cheaper now!
So it’s all about daily volume then.
Not about intrinsic value accretion. Joke. AIM seems to be the worst although all indexes are casinos more than ever.
Has Infa actually got anywhere as regarding its shareholders?? New buyers will probably be on a loss. We LTH’s are cannon fodder. It’s like staying with the same bank out of loyalty. What has actually changed in 2 days apart from volume and consequent price.
Joke index.
This is not meant to incite sharp retorts regarding the company. I may get tgem anyway as that’s how BB’s work.
Just frustration regarding any progress made. As Set 1 correctly states....how many more years can we give up for this? Institutions can. But they bought at rock bottom didn’t they.
Bottom drawer again for an eternity .
Mr T, and remember that the II,s were also given a prospectus before they bought in telling them what the case was for investing in H&W as well as in the FSRU project as well as in IM. So they know a great deal more than we do and they bought in from scratch a t a very low price, unlike the majority of PI's. They're perfectly entitled to do that,of course, but their privilege is also likely to affect the shorter term prospects of LTHS.
and I'm certainly pleased it wasn't the expected IM consultation document. And to the few who place their trust in Institutional investors I would just say that I'm interested in the poorly treated PI's here. Pi's on AIM don't generally hang about for years waiting for the weather to change. Try to remember that the majority of posters here are PI's. We need,and richly deserve ,some unequivocally good news.
Mr. T,
I concur and ultimately may spin off one or't other in due course
Older,
My opinion is that the II's that have invested have done so on the back of H & W, they probably are not interested in the IM project other than it goes ahead and provides income to H & W. If they were at all interested in Infra before we bought H & W then they certainly didn't show it.
That is why we have two totally separate entities here and why imo the recent share issue to buy H & W does not have any bearing on the IM project and what may or may not occur to the sp once all of the ducks are hit!!
We have in my opinion two sepate companies here, one which is fully up and running trading company which has potential to turnover between 50 - 100M per annum, and the IM project which we should receive our investment back once the investment decision is made and we manage to fruition. We wll then move to FRSU project on that side of the business.
Mr T
The institutional investors will not have any concerns over short term movements they will be more concentrating on anual increases. They will be well versed in the permitting scenario's and there timeframes. AIMHO
I am expecting more H&W contracts shortly.
for the replies folks im fine just not a expert on these matters
Do you think Lombard Odier or Allianz are worried about a short time delay in proceedings? They will have taken such a scenario into account when deciding to back Infa so heavily and recently.
The DAERA process was always in their hands and all we could do once everything was submitted was wait on them.
All others aspects, are, as far as we've been told, still on track. Hard to believe ATM though at this late stage.
No , Setanta. Tango's link is to a more general enviroment consultation. The link, now removed, that I posted was specific to the IM project. There was a whole list of PDF's on all subjects pertaining to the project.
Hopefully it will be back online soon. Did they jump the gun?
IF im honest im confused will this affect the milestones we are waiting for as we been extended to feb 2020 --
Is that directly related to the consultation on the IM project. Certainly is not what I expected.
One other point. Even if the remaining milestones are met and announced it will be too late to beneficially affect the SP this side of 2020. My guess is that we should prepare for poor or indifferent news in relation to IM.