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Good afternoon Vas and all,
A useful piece of information, Vas. Thank you.
So L&T ( I will not provide the full name because the first word of L&T's name will be edited ) and L&G have both sold off their Smart Metering Divisions. L&T to Schneider Electric and L&G to Esyasoft.
Thank you for the other information Vas, it was very informative.
LTI.
Morning LT,
On further inspection i think that L&G demerged / sold ONLY the manufacturing division in India to Esyasoft .
This would make sense as Adani and Esyasoft do not manufacture smart meters, so this would bring in their own manufacturing division.
"Stable source of revenue due to demerger of loss making manufacturing unit
LGL’s revenue sources were from sale of meters and from sale of services in the form of consultancy and software development services. However, the company has demerged its loss making manufacturing unit. Currently, the company is generating its revenue from its service operations based on Noida and is only providing services to subsidiaries. Since, the service operation has always been profitable for LGL, the company is expected to generate profit from FY24 onwards."
https://www.careratings.com/upload/CompanyFiles/PR/202401120117_Landis_GYR_Limited.pdf
Good evening Vas,
And thank you for sharing the infornation on Esyasoft and L&G, it is appreciated. And slots in a piece of the puzzle that has for me, been missing for some time.
Namely, that L&G did not seem to be involved in the Indian Smart Meter roll-out, recently.
I had thought that despite the opportunities for meter manufacturers in India, that L&G were more inclined to smart meter opportunities in developed markets, rather than developing markets. So they could have been to expensive, in my opinion.
L&G did supply WBSEDCL ( West Bengal ) with smart meters for many years, but their last order in India, I believe, was during 2017/2018, for Tata Power ( TPDDL ). So the aquisition of Landis&Gyr by Esyasoft, may explain why L&G do not seem to be tendering for contracts in India, at this moment in time.
But thanks again Vas.
LTI.
Just to add a quote from the IHC report.
"
Esyasoft has actively engaged in strategic partnerships and
collaborations to enhance its capabilities. With the recent
acquisition of Landis & Gyr Smart Metering manufacturing in
India, Esyasoft is positioned to lead the utilities transformation
and accelerating decarbonization in the electricity, water and
gas sector.
A notable partnership is with ADANI India, where Esyasoft has
collaborated to deploy end to end smart grid solutions. This
joint effort combines ADANI’s infrastructure prowess with
Esyasoft’s Smart Grid capabilities, facilitating more efficient
energy distribution and management. The synergy between
ADANI’s extensive reach in the energy sector and Esyasoft’s
cutting-edge technology significantly enhances the efficiency
and effectiveness of energy distribution and consumption
monitoring.
Esyasoft has collaborated with leaders in the electric
vehicle (EV) charging, hydrogen infrastructure, and carbon
management sectors. These partnerships are geared towards
integrating the company’s smart metering and IoT solutions
with the emerging technologies in these areas. This integration
is key to supporting the transition to cleaner energy sources
and promoting sustainable practices in energy consumption"
Cheers Vas
Afternoon LT,
Thanks for the information.
Something I did not realise was that in Dec 2023 Esyasoft bought Landis and Gyr (India, or maybe the whole company) and the new company is called "Esyasoft Landis And Gyr Limited (ELAGL)"
https://www.legalentityidentifier.in/leicert/3358001IMNCP9MOBIQ16/
I only discovered this while reading International Holding Company’s (IHC) 2023 Sustainability
Report details the company’s Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) Strategy and highlights and i noticed they have Esyasoft as one of their indirect subsidiaries etc - see pages 12 and 23 for what they say about Esyasoft, big in EV charging also .
https://www.ihcuae.com/photo/plugin/guidebook/2024/1710400355_file_1.pdf
Just for info GL Vas
Good afternoon Vas,
Some information from 2022, that may be of interest, including some collaborations between CyanConnode/Esyasoft, up until 2022.
http://cyanconnode.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Brochure-A4.pdf
CyanConnode and Esyasoft had collaborated on 5 smart meter projects up until May 2022, from what I can make out. Two separate projects for MPWZ in Indore. One project for TANGEDCO in Tamil Nadu. One project for HPSEB in Himachal Pradesh and one project for APDCL in Assam.
Esyasoft may have been involved in other contracts since 2022, like the Assam/IntelliSmart/CyanConnode contract, in connection with the Strategic Framework Agreement, but I have not checked as yet, so I cannot say for certain.
I hope this helps with some pieces for your jigsaw. It is interesting slotting the various pieces together.
Good Luck Vas and all.
LTI.
Afternoon LT and All
Interesting reading some of the Esyasoft case study's in central and northern India. Its hard to know for certain if Cyan were involved in these or not , anyone have an idea?
Example North India Case Study
"Outcomes
The results, post-investment, were nothing short of extraordinary:
Billing efficiency soared to 85%
The revenue in 10 months surged from USD 1.5 million to USD 2.5 million
ATC losses plummeted from 38.5% to a remarkable 9.6%
https://www.esyasoft.com/case-studies/smart-meter-deployment-for-a-north-indian-utility-a-transformative-success
GL Vas