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Why must every comment go back to Bemoaning? Britain escaping from the clutches of the ECB, the worst example of corrupt unelected economic dictatorship on the planet should be applauded. Why not try accepting the democratically made decision instead of repeatedly whining because your wishes cannot be forced upon society?
Because Tonsril , the people were lied to about the true implications and the costs unfortunately the Bexiteers don't want to admit it, either because they are on a nice little earner out of it or because hey don't like to admit they were misled.
As to a democratic vote it was originally launched by David Cameron as a referendum to gauge public feeling on the subject, but never intended to be a binding vote on leave or stay , that was supposed to come at a later stage based on the outcome of the initial referendum.
By the way you may not be aware but we don't have a democratic voting system in the UK
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/
https://www.makevotesmatter.org.uk/?link_id=1&can_id=7912b55e72d6174409e36b7a8226a78d&source=email-ever-wanted-to-make-a-film&email_referrer=email_1279280&email_subject=a-film-for-equal-votes
Tonsril If you take the time to do some research you will find that the present government has used Brexit as a way to deny you democratic freedom and is intending on taking away more of peoples democratic rights.
Just because some people were so inward thinking,selfish or even stupid to go along with Breict is all the more reason to speak up!
Whilst I agree with you on the current government and how inept it is, I take issue with your Brexit comments once again. It's unfair to make disparaging comments on people who voted for Brexit. Both sides were fed nonsense during the campaign and it was up to us to work our way through that information. As for the binding issue, Both sides fought the referendum on the basis they would regard the result as binding; and it was on that basis that people voted. As things stand I would be more concerned as to how this government is running the country and in particular it's draconian approach to covid. Good day to you sir.
I do not agree with your opinion & nor do many others. As is typical of those who favour the left side of politics you are all for democracy until it goes against your views at which point you claim the system is rigged or those who voted against your wishes are uneducated fools. I have no intention of debating the issue with you as debating with blinkered, one-eyed people is pointless.
Surely this is not the place for continuing Brexit postulating, rather what affects Cey and where next. I said I would be surprised if Centamin could end Friday at 100 but was hugely pleased it made 99. Us long term holders are waiting for the truth of negative interest rates and money printing to sink in finally lifting gold, and cey to recover its production and more important it’s far increased costs…..one day but of course it would be lovely if it was this autumn. Cey now is particularly geared to the gold price with costs so high so if gold were to rise it should do better than most miners. Now pop down the pub and argue about brexit, old cars, Boris Johnson, how everything used to be better (not) etc
Strangers arguing politics with strangers on a share chat site zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Try the lloyds page.
Ex pat are entitled to vote in UK general elections , however they didn't get a vote in the Brexit despite holding UK passports , so it can hardly be regarded as a democratic or even binding result .
Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law.
The watchdog said it exceeded its £7m spending limit by funneling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave.
The founder of BeLeave, Darren Grimes, has been fined £20,000 and referred to the police, along with Vote Leave official David Halsall.
Vote Leave said the "wholly inaccurate" report was politically motivated.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992
Absolutely , but I sold Lloyd's years ago because it is a dead dog of a share and bought Centamin instead.
Lot's of upside to Centamin , no hope for UK banking I'm afraid!
Mr Zambian, The Brexiteers seem to think they can carry on bullying people to accept a decision by the government with vested personal interests that was based on lies and innuendo as will become apparent as time goes on unfortunately everyone and future generations now have to suffer the consequences and inconvenience for no good reason.
Where is the credible evidence to support the allegations of EU corruption?
The Independent
UK food supplies set to worsen as more Brexit red tape is introduced within weeks, businesses warn
Ben Chapman
Sat, 4 September 2021, 4:10 pm
The UK's food supply problems are at risk of getting worse because of additional Brexit red tape which will come into force in a matter of weeks, businesses have warned.
From 1 October the UK will begin carrying out checks on paperwork which must be completed for imports of meat, dairy, and some other types of food from the EU.
On 1 January, physical checks will begin on shipments of the same products. Goods which are not compliant are at risk of being turned away.
Until now, while EU countries have rigorously enforced veterinary and food safety checks on shipments coming from the Great Britain, the government has waived the requirement for goods going the other way.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/workers-face-highest-tax-bills-153046409.html
‘Red Wall‘ and other poorer areas of England will lose up to £1bn of development cash this year because of Brexit, despite Boris Johnson’s vow to “level up” the country.
The government promised to match the grants – to build local economies by attracting businesses and jobs – when the UK left the EU, but has yet to set up a promised replacement fund.
Instead, just £220m is being made available across the whole of the UK for 2021-22, and no money has yet been handed out at all – even though the financial year is nearly halfway over.
Areas of the North and Midlands, many of which switched to the Tories at the 2019 election after the prime minister’s “leveling up” pledge, received £500m a year from EU Structural Funds, new analysis shows.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-red-wall-levelling-up-b1901999.html
@ 17:38 - I certainly enjoyed those lines because it's been a hard ride of late.
Incidentally Biden and Boris worry me.
And am taking the view that the $ and euro are shot.
Mr Tibbles, that is down to the failure of government and businesses not Brexit. Darren Grimes and vote leave were subsequently cleared and the Met Police dropped its case. They were fined for a failure to provide an accurate spending return.
Sotolo,
The turn around is progressing to plan at Centamin,as we know this was always going to be the hardest year, look forward to seeing some evidence in 2022 that the turnaround really is taking place as things progress to more sustainable and predicated guidance levels in 2023.
I’ve recently retired and had hoped to spend a significant proportion of my time travelling through Europe. I’ve now, of course, lost my rights to free movement within the EU member states. I’ve looked at the visa options now that the UK is viewed as a third country and there is nothing suitable. I’m therefore stuck with the Schengen rules. This is just a single example of what Uk citizens lost post brexit. From what I can see, the UK is now a wholly fractured society and won’t heal anytime soon. I fully understand mrtibbles viewpoints and support him all the way but what a great shame it is to see what the country has turned into. Does anyone really think the gov’t is fit for purpose? Apologies for being off topic.
The Met may have dropped the case , doesn't mean he didn't bend the rules and misinform the public
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/new-email-release-shows-how-leave-campaigners-used-vast-loo/
I have yet to see any credible evidence of any improvements as a result of Brexit.
Where are the savings we were promised?
Travel to th EU is more expensive and inconvenient , roaming phone charges are back1
UK holidays are more expensive, yet the service and quality in generally not as good in comparison to that on the continent
Crops rot on UK farms because the UK workforce don't want the work.
Supply chains to businesses are in a shambolic state.
Loss of EU markets for our UK businesses putting 500,000 people out of work.
Imports to UK form 9000 miles away instead of 200 miles away create greater carbon footprint
Wales has lost EU Funding of 250 million euro and been given £100 million by the government. that an improvement is it?
I could go on but the list is endless, bur where is the advantage to the UK , it certainly isn't apparent this far?
do you just come on here for an argument tibbles, seems so doesnt it! why dont you take your usual political trash to a political site, we are fed up with your constant bias. you lost the referendum , get over it!!!!
The media was overwhelmingly biased towards the remainers
Yest still lost the vote
Good riddance to that corrupt bunch of over paid and undemocratic bunch of losers
So I wonder why do you come on here for Mark, to try and get some info without putting in any work yourself, certainly not to contribute anything about Centamin!
The simple fact is that the UKIP and the Brexit campaign told lies (Dominic Cummings has admitted this £235million saved a week by leaving )which appealed to and brought out the very worst in those who appeared to be normally quite reasonable people.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/01/brexit-referendum-was-badly-designed-and-unfairly-won-so-why-there-so-much
https://fairvote.uk/the-evidence/
Now ask yourself why were so many so easily misled?
the thing is people like me will keep reminding Brexiteers of their mistake until they have the decency to admit it themselves!
Why not have a political system like North Korea. Tibbs, you would be appointed fatherly dictator for life & make all decisions unquestioned. Your boundless wisdom would save the uneducated fools in the electorate from their own idiocy & you would guide society to utopia!