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Yes, sorry ND, missing out the word "not" was quite important really, haha.
But truly I don't mind and indeed would expect other posters to query my ideas or thoughts I post. I only get peeved when it degenerates to personal insults. If others think what I say is tosh, well great!, explain why and maybe I will see the light or between the competing thoughts another better one will emerge between us all.
I just don't get why all of a sudden it gets personally offensive and then others join in for reasons that really are beyond me. Original thought it was will take us forward in all walks of life, and normally original thought is actually a collaboration of ideas.
Its not as though those posting that "its us" for the last 12 months have been right is it? I mean, a bit of humility might not go a miss.
The dubious Joys of social media I s'pose. Shame though.
I didn't say that sparko, (or at least I did not mean to give that impression) I just gave an example to show that its not about infection per se, its about illness and death that results from it.
Robbo's , post I thought was very good and exactly chimes with my view on covid generally, Its nowhere near as bad as it has been portrayed and the reporting of it has been sensationalised out of all proportion into now for very many people, being scared witless over it.
Again its all a sense of proportion, 450 die per day of cancer , roughly the same of heart conditions and typically another 400 from obesity. And thats before another 200-300 of other aliments and accidents. Per Day.
wyndum
sorry chap but not sure where your 80% not affected comes from /
of 42 deaths so far 12 with 2 doses and 7 with one thats 19 deaths of the 42 that aint 80% not affected ? not counting others that are undoubtedly hospitilised and seriously ill
Bella6532
That nincompoop's "predictions" isn't anything any investor here wasn't expecting to happen, so she doesn't get a cookie for that. What is next? That we will have a few deals arriving in the form of RNSs? Said I now read what he wrote by you repeating them on your posts!
Bella, you’re wasting your time. The baby beta posts incessantly so it’s easy to claim you’ve called everything right. He’s the fundamental equivalent of the sealion. Every post has a handy caveat so his delicate ego won’t get bruised when he gets another thing wrong, but allows enough room to claim to be right. Will called it correctly the other day - this idiot would rather lose money and be right.
As for the sea lion, he’s not here for the oncology, he’s not here for the future of he business at all. He’s a trader, he’s here to post whatever clap trap suits his current trading position. The absolute worst kind of scum in my book. Vile behaviour.
Another intelligent research based discussion thread ruined by this disruptive twat. Shame.
When will the baby beta learn? I’ve been asking to be filtered for months, but he still keeps putting my initials in his childish posts. Who is following who? He calls it yapping, I call it correcting. He posts absolute nonsense for bizarre attention seeking narcissistic reasons that needs repeatedly calling out. He’s an irritant that has been plaguing this board for over a year. First with AW who was banned, now with NDN. Simply one of the weirdest people I’ve ever had the misfortune of interacting with. He’s blocked me on twatter, refuses to do so here. Odd.
Anyway, he’ll read this, despite the ‘filter’. I’ll try again. Filter me…. Weirdo!
Oh... thats what you want to do, iind me up... its good to see you are setting yourself a goal . I mean after all this is a BB to share ideas and thoughts of the stock in question.
Well, i'lI will have to filter you as well, this is crazy. nothing for years and 2 in 2 days!
(Just remember I said AVCT had missed mass testing in the UK months and months ago, I said Vaccination would roll out very quickly and I said we would not have a test out until July. )
None of what I say affects the SP, obviously, as it has and will do its own thing in any event, but it does at least show that me thinking for myself has more reward for my personal wealth then reading and listening to your childish play ground antics and from a grown man as well, assuming you are a grown man, of course) ND and I are the same person, but I completely agree with him that" Psychologists would have a field day with you lot."
But good luck anyway.
Think global market for all sorts of testing is expected to grow . Avacta AffiDX® SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Lateral Flow Test." just one of many untapped diagnostic applications that might benefit from using affimers .
"The global lateral flow immunoassay (LFIA) based rapid test market is expected to grow from $5.768 billion in 2020 to $6.136 billion in 2021 at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 6.4%. The growth is mainly due to the companies resuming their operations and adapting to the new normal while recovering from the COVID-19 impact, which had earlier led to restrictive containment measures involving social distancing, remote working, and the closure of commercial activities that resulted in operational challenges. The LFIA market is expected to reach $9.136 billion in 2025 at a CAGR of 10%."
https://blog.tbrc.info/2021/06/global-lateral-flow-immunoassay-lfia-based-rapid-test-market-report-2021-opportunities-and-strategies-market-forecast-and-trends/
So my "agenda" is simply to point out the facts of who covid is affecting? I am with Robbo.
I seem to remember ES (sorry Will) that you were in it for the therapy side of things. Can I be in for that reason too? You know, if its ok with you?
But to be fair just tell me what I am allowed to post that won't meet with your blinkered, self righteous, invective clap trap you never tire of spewing out.
No view on if they’re the same person, but both have similar agendas.
Subtle. Doubtful they are invested. Yes, there’s always a less rampy side to the debate, but wyn is like that Dennis guy on Twitter Invested but talks down the product like selling it is unethical.
Spot on Pigster, it’s a numbers game and I’ve pasted a link to some numbers so there is little debate. If we fully opened and it was allowed to rampantly spread to the full population the NHS would be overwhelmed by more cases than in winter. Vaccines do not give full protection and they do not stop transmission by enough for a variant that has some escape mutations and an r value of around 6. It’s about absolute numbers, the percentage look small but if continues to spread exponentially, they soon get very big - then you risk further escape. The vulnerable population has predominantly been vaccinated with AZN vaccine that is not as effective. Short term that means lockdown, long term - if they ever sort themselves out - testing and a passport to go with it
Wyn, I don't think another 10-20 million vaccinations of younger healthier people will achieve anything, other than prevent health workers caring for sick people, because they are too busy vaccinating those who don't need a vaccine.
Wyn: the problem of allowing it to do its thing since 80% would be asymptomatic is that the more bodies it jumps between, the more likely it is that an escape variant appears and bam.
@Rooba.
Very sick of it too. Presently 3.5 m deaths worldwide but to add a side note 8 m die from smoking each year and we let people freely do that.
Let's hope Avacta can brew up a special sauce to help with that too
I spose we will just have to see BIl, transmission was always going to increase with the restrictions being eased, and apparently the current figures are less than the best case scenario envisaged. The only numbers that anybody cares about is hospitilsations and deaths. and currently they are mercifully very small. And it seems vaccinated people are best protected, so the extra time in the current lockdown, will persisit for 4 more weeks to get another 10-12 million does done.
I know if we have more people suffering with covid and extended lockdowns we make more money here, but this fearmongering is ridiculous.
The numbers of people dying from covid are tiny. We have more suicides every day, mainly in younger people, but nobody cares about continuing to damage young people's lives with these restrictions.
Covid is a seasonal virus - it will be subdued in the summer months, before going up in the winter and cause deaths in the elderly and vulnerable - just as flu always did, which never used to bother us.
Yes, covid is worse, but the vaccines change that. Also, viruses typically become less virulent over time when they mutate (you won't hear that from the mainstream media or government). They just say every new variant is 50% ish more infectious, which if you do the maths, we're supposed to now have a massively more transmissable virus than the first and 2nd waves, whilst the numbers have dwindled to almost nothing - and people sill believe this rubbish, FFS!
I'm all for making money here on the help that Avacta's LFT can bring, but the fearmongering and the welcoming of ongoing restrictions just does my head in.
Rant over!
@wyndrum: Surely rapid, high quality LFD testing will have a significant role in the medium term? Worth considering the following over the next twelve months:
1) Incidence ^ as international travel ^.
2) Propensity for new mutations. Trend has been for ^ infectiousness.
3) Booster (third dose) vaccination almost certainly required late Autumn/Winter.
3) Challenge of discerning between Covid and seasonal influenzas late Autumn/Winter.
Reading the smoke-signals, I do sense that HMG has now got the plot. EUA for Innova collapses June 22nd. HMG aware that sovereign testing industry vital for the medium and long-term future. With the critique of Innova now becoming mainstream, it would be unforgivable for HMG to fail in what will be a much needed continuation of testing, but this time with high grade sovereign LFDs, which HMG can grandstand as part of BJ's showmanship. As I have said before, HMG's simplistic messaging will change in the very near future from an emphasis on vaccination to an emphasis on testing.
All to play for IMO and saddened that some investors here cannot see either the bigger or longer picture. Have held firm and will continue to do so. As an aside, it is very obvious that the MMs have played us and are raking it in. On one of the dips, I tried to buy. Could buy one share, but not ten, let alone one thousand. GLA.
Wyn - it’s a debate for google.
Nobody on here, including me, is saying the testing landscape hasn’t changed. My view is that testing will become green light and mass/surge/lockdown mitigation.
My view is that Avacta will sell a load. I’ve got nothing more scientific than that - I’m not going down your rabbit hole, we’ll be here all day.
Delete "typically relatively easily."
the transmission element ultimately is not the issue. Its how ill it makes you. What if asymptomatic cases instead of what it is, affected 80% of the population? In other words 80% could get it with no ill affects? We would not be concerned about transmission because it would have no affect on the vast majority of people.
What if, after 2 doses the illness caused, is very minor (much less than Flu say)?
And before we go back to vaccinating the world: look at the stats of who's affected. It's countries with older median age groups. Africa, where there is a much younger demographic have been affected far less typically relatively easily. If we are going to help Africa it tends to be malaria and cholorea that are the big annual killers, not Covid.
Prior to the vaccines it was testing or nothing. Now its moved on. Testing will clearly have a role to play but its not now this great all or nothing, solution. This does not mean AVCT won't sell their test globally in the tens of millions but I think it will have to be globally and not just the UK for the really big bucks
There are studies that purported Innova to be a very effective test. Real world is different. I accept that some reduction may occur, apologies.
Reality: More than 50% of the adult population is fully vaccinated in a pseudo lockdown, yet cases are increasing daily. Variant or not, transmission is rampant.
I’m not proud to say Covid is running rampant, but proudly stating that testing is the only valid way to control transmission, limiting infection.
but it does reduce transmission. Some studies say by 80%.
If the 4 week delay does happen, that's wimbledon screwed then, ticket capacity due to be announced around mid-June (Monday) and spectator capacity is currently a minimum 25% - Big Boris fail if he doesn't introduce e-passport and test and trace before then!
Livedata - exactly.
To be clear wyndrum - the vaccine does not stop transmission. I did not say INFECTION or HOSPITALISATION.
Wyndrum. Being vaccinated doesn't stop the transmission of the virus.
Although it does reduce hospitalizations and deaths like you say.