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Presentation going well so far the CFO is on the mark on every question with no bluster ... clearly media reporting of testing the new models will be key over the next month, that is my first benchmark.
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How many AML shares do you own?
AML007 said the new debt would repay all the old debt.
Remember this EVERY TIME he tells you something in the future.
NOT to be trusted 100%.
80m spent on financing expenses, and the debt interest is MORE than it was last year.
Ratings agencies have been done by Stroll, they might reverse their stance now debt is up and cash is well down.
FT:
Losses at Aston Martin widened by almost 90 per cent in the first three months of the year, after a sharp decline in sales of its SUV and higher interest costs after refinancing its debt.
Pre-tax losses were £138.8mn compared to £74.2mn a year earlier, while revenues fell 10 per cent to £267.7mn and car sales fell by a quarter to 945.
The company spent £80mn on financing expenses, related to changes in the US dollar and fees from paying back some of its debt early. Net debt rose to £1bn, from £868mn a year earlier.
No sign of Stroll, tells you all you need to know. Dodging the questions.
What a charlatan.
I hope you all voted against him, the guy is treating AML like a football team.
Load it full of debt and take out everything you need.
Cash balance £229m, thats a LOT of cash burned though in Q1, even worse than I thought. Down from £392.4m 3 months ago = £163m BURNED in 3 MONTHS!!!!!
Cash raise imminent.
26% decline in sales
10% decline in revenue
NET DEBT UP 20% from 868m to 1044m!!!!!!
UK sales down 30%
US sales down 35%
SUV SALES DOWN 63%.
Loss after tax DOUBLES from Q1 last year (2023)
FCF OUTFLOW DOUBLES from Q1 last year from 118 to 190m.
one hundred and nighty million burned through in 3 months!!!!!
£229 cash left, you know why they had to extended the revolving credit facility (more debt) by £100m, because they are going to need every penny of it.
Cash balance £229m, thats a LOT of cash burned though in Q1, even worse than I thought. Down from £392.4m 3 months ago = £163m BURNED in 3 MONTHS!!!!!
Cash raise imminent.
26% decline in sales
10% decline in revenue
NET DEBT UP 20% from 868m to 1044m!!!!!!
UK sales down 30%
US sales down 35%
SUV SALES DOWN 63%.
Loss after tax DOUBLES from Q1 last year (2023)
FCF OUTFLOW DOUBLES from Q1 last year from 118 to 190m.
one hundred and nighty million burned through in 3 months!!!!!
£229 cash left, you know why they had to extended the revolving credit facility (more debt) by £100m, because they are going to need every penny of it.
Easy to sell £1 coins for 50p though..
Nice noise but it's profits that count.
I had a new one for 3.5 years until recently - they take the absolute p155, they lose a small bank of potential clients forever. Then left with a shrinking field of people yet to be made fools of....
It's a long game investing. I am more than happy to make decisions on rational thinking not emotional trading. Let the rants rant away I am interested in the presentation first and take it from there.
Chairman Lawrence Stroll said: “2024 is a year of immense product transformation at Aston Martin, with the introduction of four new models to the market before the end of the year.
“Our first quarter performance reflects this expected period of transition, as we ceased production and delivery of our outgoing core models ahead of the ramp up in production of the new Vantage, upgraded DBX707 and our upcoming V12 flagship sports car which we’ve confirmed today.
https://www.cityam.com/aston-martin-losses-rise-more-than-forecast-ahead-of-production-ramp-up/
1.33 will seem a long way off later - not in a good way if you're long.
Massacred.
Can't wait to hear Stroll today, get the kettle on Larry.
You lose money because you ignore the people who know what they are talking about and listen to idiots instead.
If it breaks 145p support, then it's heading to £1.
The Aston Martin Groundhog, coming to a showroom near you soon.
Doing the same things in the same way and thinking it will be different next time - and will maybe turn out ok in the end.
The men behind the business and the shareholders, making their own version of "One Flew over The Cuckoos Nest"
395m in cash INCLUDES a 170m revolving credit facility, that's DEBT THAT NEEDS PAID OFF.
Cash in hand is only £225m
What the market thinks. The figures are below market consensus for the quarter so it could be bumpy. That said second tranche at the ready once we have a base line price. Looking forward to the presentation also.
Judging by the amount green bars on my feed someone not invested got up early again...the good thing is I don't have to read it between other comments.
£1 billion in debt, crikey pleased that I jumped ship on this years ago and took a profit.
Personally better businesses to invest in elsewhere IMO (LSE)
Best of luck to all LTH
Also cash available of 395 million suggests there isn’t any liquidity issue.
Agreed, pretty much inline with the lower consensus.
pretty much exactly as i predicted yesterday. gonna be an interesting year.
v12 vanquish!!!
my main concern is that tim aka cj666bj aka the answer is *******s is going to run out of tissues today!!!
Interesting TinyPie, the only thing you can talk about is Jam Tomorrow. The promise that it gets better, SAME STORY EVERY RESULTS DAY!
You can talk about no single metric because they are all worse than before.
Apart from Margin because of the Valkyrie sales. They are ending soon.
People are pulling a LOT of deposits, is that for Valhalla?
"expected to drive strong financial delivery and positive free cash flow generation in the second half of the year and beyond"
"Following our successful refinancing in Q1'24, we now expect net cash interest of c. £120m in FY24[1]. Depreciation and amortisation forecast remains at c. £400m in FY24."
So refinancing the debt and still paying £120m per year in interest.
From full year 2023 report: "Net cash interest payments of £109m"
Debt interest costs MORE THAN 2023!