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I'm not seeing any ads.
@earth, I would still recommend you have the vaccine, im double dosed now, it will still give a level of immunity, even if its not 100% it should reduce the severity of infection, it caused me no issues, was free, so why wouldn't you, plus it looks like you are less likely to be a spreader once vaccinated.
@kaeren its getting on my paps, can barely use this bb now
Hold on to your hats chaps/chapesses things are going to get rocky again.
Again, dont believe the government drivel, they stopped following the science a long time ago
I am Poidster , between new message at the top and ads I can often not see what I'm typing.
To be fair, the reduced effectiveness of the vaccine is making me question whether it's even worth getting vaccinated now. Already had covid, wasn't too bad, and feel like it would be more beneficial to the immune system to just get ill again... Bit like I do every year with flu.
A really, really bad flu season would see about 20k deaths.
New variant is again more transmissible early to say but indications are that hospital admissions are again rising, thus time effecting younger people, deaths rising too.
Vaccines look like they are working so far but not 100%.
On the ground testing showing steady increase again. I fear this is just going to be rinse and repeat AGAIN.
This time it will be the unvaccinated hardest hit.
Delta plus looks like its more resistant to the vaccine. We are not getting out of this for a long time. Call it hyperbole but I'm not sure now if I'll see a return to our previous pre covid life in my remaining life.
Its now with us permanently unless it mutates its way to be harmless, which is possible. On a brighter note quick accurate testing will be key from here on out.
Btw is anyone else getting totally jazzed off with all the adverts now on this board, its becoming unusable, esp on a phone
One reason it’s so difficult to produce effective vaccines against some viruses, including COVID, influenza and HIV, is that these viruses mutate very rapidly. This allows them to evade the antibodies generated by a particular vaccine, through a process known as “viral escape.”
The first gen vaccines will have little to no affect against the Delta
@ Whatnonewsyet
Fully agree
However, I despair when it comes to this Govt but in complete contrast, have great hopes for Novacyt.
The old adage applies:- you can’t fool some of the people but the rest of the people are happy to be fooled!! That is because their need to go on holiday abroad is more important than the well being of the community. The government is happy to use this fact to their advantage to restore their image. Zahawi rattled by of the vaccination success without paying any regard to how the Delta variant is taking hold and as for the Delta + he brushed that aside. Not in his remit to say anything negative. He knows which side his bread is buttered. Open up travel soon why not. Guess what NCYT sales will go up exponentially!! That is what we want, isn’t it!? I am positive about the future of NCYT but the government frustrates the hell out of me.
@HarChris
Thanks for that but it seems that far more data in this regard needs to be gathered before drawing any conclusions.
However at some point, someone is going to have decide what level of hospitalisations/deaths is acceptable before all restrictions are lifted and allow people to determine their own level of risk. IMO, I still think we're a long way from that point given the number of variants, possible mutations and the risk of long Covid to all age groups.
The duration and also the waning of the effectiveness of vaccines is also a great unknown and when boosters, if available should be deployed.
“ I think it's significant no directors have sold any shares (to my knowledge).”
…..so wouldn’t now be a good time to show a bit of confidence and for them to buy some more?
The best I can do https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
I think it's significant no directors have sold any shares (to my knowledge).
@HarChris
Do you have the recent hospitalisation figures handy ?
@Kitzie
Agree and think the Govt are suppressing certain data and gradually moving the goalposts in order to fit their new road map and lifting of restrictions date of July 19th. Notice they call this 'possible terminus day' regularly now as opposed to freedom day by their friends in the media which in reality is a false promise.
They are being led by dates not data and trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes while their mask is slipping.
UK mortality of COVID over Flu is X6..... road traffic death x4..... people who think COVID is flu like are deluded
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Not right now it's not, post-vaccine. That would mean 100000 deaths a year for the foreseeable future/275 a day all year round, highly doubt it.
The truth is very few people will be analysing it in the way that you are (and that's not a dig at you, the opposite) that they can get away with vague language and then interpret it as they see fit. Comparisons will be made vis a vis last year and I guess data that shows case loads are not leading to exponential increases in hospitalisations will be enough to plough on and open up.
@porky I agree with your last post. I do wonder at times what the board themselves make of the share price, after all there was those flurry of director buys last November which suggested they were expecting the SP to be higher than £8 by now and whether or not they will show their hand (i.e more director buys or share buybacks).
Still, this is a long-term project which is not about the here and the now but building a successful business that will survive the test of time.
UK mortality of COVID over Flu is X6..... road traffic death x4..... people who think COVID is flu like are deluded
@HarChris
Don't think I've heard anyone in Govt suggest such a thing or acceptable re so-called roadmap.
The 4 criteria that they've set are so full of weasel words that a proper strategy is from clear.
One was - ' The rates of infection don't risk hospitalisations at a level that will put too much pressure on the NHS.
' Too much pressure ' - what's that supposed to mean and who is supposed to decide ?
I get the feeling that most are under immense pressure ATM trying to deal with a backlog of patients regardless of Covid.
Troublesome, I assume something similar to influenza. I think on average 20000 people die a year in the UK of flu, or 55 deaths a day (more like 200 a day over December, January and February).
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-reports-16-703-new-coronavirus-cases-and-another-21-deaths-12340824
16,703 new Covid cases
21 Deaths - Condolences to friends and loved ones of those that sadly lost their lives.
No legal compulsion to wear a face mask when restrictions are lifted.
Don't know thec data regards hospitalisations which used to be one of the Govts main criteria for lifting restrictions.
Is the number of deaths now becoming the most important data and testing the water to see what we find acceptable.