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Cheers Albi1 just to be clear, I don't hate anyone based on their religion, race, colour, weight, size, height or anything... i just hate oppression war and unfairness to other. My philosophy in life is look for the truth, don't be a sheep and follow the herd and treat people how you want to be treated and fingers up to jealousy and be happy for other peoples success and stay positive and learn from your mistakes and move on and don't sh*it stir and don't hold grudges and be hateful.
I still respect Beerbulls right to express his opinion and I respect his views even if I don't agree with them. I never fall out with anyone because of their different views, tolerance and patience is key.
Dark Knight
I would agree with possible timeframe. Would have ticked up several of your and Beerbull's posts over the last few days if both of you had refrained from insulting others due to their nationality, race or voting proclivities ... Otherwise appreciate your observations on here.
Pedro, I am going to go and spend my riches on a 10 pence mixture of jelly babies and smarties. You know the pick and mix candy ? hahahahah cant wait... 10 p!!! rich I am
albi1 one thing i know about the saudis, they are the biggest bunch of liars.... if it was going to take two weeks then they would have said but it will be months... i might be wrong but let us see. Just going with my gut feeling. Logic dictates that the fires need to be put out first then check damage and then clear out all the massive damaged bits and then order and replace so that is no way going to take weeks ....how long did that usa facility take to bring online ? I know it is different situation but it was still a massive fire.
Longwait,
"(well researched, learned, and erudite) LW"
I recommend this as post of the week, even if it is only Monday, so the week is but young, so to speak.
Hide not thy light under a bushel. If you've got it, flaunt it. May your erudition flourish, your researches be fruitful, and learning continue on a daily basis!
adoubleuk (currently pondering the wisdom or otherwise of whether to get back on the road and play poker tonight, given that it's been a long weekend, he's unshaven, and probably smeels of diesel, if not worse.)
PS The attack on the Saudi refinery was the best news I've heard in ages. imho.
D K , great isn't it? Exciting times indeed.
It will likely to continue to rise ... rumours of weeks to months to restore production.
cashing in !!! I am rich rich rich !!!!!
wow !!!! we are up by 0.63% OMG !!!!!! we are on a frackin roll!!!!!!!!!
extrader,
"Mind you, some people , who love France, feel the same way about Paris and the Parisians...."
Myself included.
Paris was founded not by the Parisians, but by a Celtic tribe known as the Parisi, who were dispossessed by Charlemagne.
(well researched, learned, and erudite) LW
Hi adoubleuk,
Mind you, some people , who love France, feel the same way about Paris and the Parisians....
ATB
JK,
'..The only way this could be reconciled would be by nuking the whole continent & then starting with a clean sheet...'
"Am I the only one that finds that this statement passed without much comment more than a little abhorent?"
Picked up on this, but didn't have time to reply, much as I wanted to. It's been a very busy (truckracing) weekend.
The thing being, although you and I often seem to have views in common, I'm afraid we diverge here. In that I completely agree with Beerbull's comment, and don't find it abhorrant whatsoever.
But would like to add, don't keep the nukes just for the cities, but spread 'em around a bit. Vitrifying all that sand would make some rigmoves a lot easier.
Leave Oman and Yemen out of the 'shopping list', though. They're good places, even if the Yemenis can be a bit fierce at times...
Having no or little resources makes you work harder Japan, Korea, We were built on coal but the workers suffered for it and progress isn't always good for the many, like now rubbish jobs zero hour employment everybody goes to university and thinks they are then entitled to a high paid job and an easy life, but they are in for a shock.
A lot of people think drugs is OK but look at the mental illness to come in the future, social media is doing their heads in and suicides ever increasing because they can't cope and see very little future for them.
The rich will do well but jo soap will not, they are slaves but don't know it.
So the USA are not a mixed economy? Maybe you should argue with Wikipedia “The resource curse, also known as the paradox of plenty, refers to the paradox that countries with an abundance of natural resources (such as fossil fuels and certain minerals), tend to have less economic growth, less democracy, and worse development outcomes than countries with fewer natural resources.”
It wasn't much of a curse for Norway or the USA!
I guess Maestros that’s why they call it ‘the curse of oil’. I think it’s like having a magic cash point machine that pays out without having to put in any effort. The curse has built up a lopsided economy & the KSA & ME, lack the strengths of most mixed western economies, which we benefit from.
Can’t be as all our leaders said every week Bush, Blair, Cameron, all said the religion of peace Ha Ha Ha Just read the koran hatred death and destruction, murder, slavery, invasion of others Countries, marrying 9 year olds.
God in His wisdom gave the Arabs OIL ? Otherwise they would be 3rd World Countries and it makes them lazy.
Apart from Turkey they make nothing
What about those that aid, abet, finance, support and use them for their own agendas?
Have a close look at who we've supported over the years before throwing stones.
On 9/11: when the aircrafts hit the twin towers, the hijackers exclaimed, 'Allahu Akbar!'
They didn't recite the Lord's Prayer, Kaddish, or a Hindu or Sikh prayer.
It was clearly an Islamic conspiracy.
The idea that the Americans blew up the Twin Towers at the same time reminds me of the similarly-ludicrous conspiracy theory that General Patton was shot at the exact moment that his car crashed.
As for experts, medical experts claim that David Kelly couldn't have committed suicide, but his wife identified the packet of paracetamol tablets found on him.
I said before that JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy, and Oswald was framed, but buildings really can collapse (9/11), people really can commit suicide or die in car crashes (Diana and Patton) or be killed by a lone nut (Lennon).
As for the HUR share price, no-one knows when it will take off.
To know that, you would need to read the Mass Mind and know when masses of investors or several institutions are going to buy stock or when a bidding war will break out.
Maybe WWN is right and it's only after three years of successful production that all the doubts will be put to rest and the price will soar.
I think you're wrong about that, extrader.
Much as I detested the IRA, there really is no comparison between it and ISIS, or even Hamas.
The fanaticism of Islamic terror organisations is in a league of itself own.
Well, D_K, I haven't found the reference yet to Mohammed's call for the extermination of the remaining Jews of Arabia, but by then they were already well on their way to being eradicated.
How do you explain the fact that the Jews of Arabia long ago disappeared?
The eradication of Jews in Arabia: a guide for contemporary Islamic doctrine.
The authors examine the implications of the eradication of the Jewish Tribes in 7th century Arabia
The hapless Banu–Kanuyka tribe ... were given the choice of death, conversion or exile by Mohammed ... the third Jewish tribe, the Banu-Qurayza surrendered with all their wealth and 800 men and boys were beheaded and their women raped and enslaved. The Banu-Qurayza wealth became war booty shared among Mohammed and his followers.
This leads to the unpremeditated attack on the Jewish oasis town of Khaybar, during which Mohammed took Safiyya bin Huyayy as his wife after beheading her husband and father. The Pact of Khaybar was entered into because Mohammed needed the expertise of the Jewish farmers and merchants. It established what became the Dhimmi Laws under which lands and wealth were handed over and the subjugated Jews had to pay a humiliation tax or Jizya. Thus creating a fourth option under Islamic doctrine of Jihad: conversion, exile, death or Dhimmitude.
https://www.newenglishreview.org/Jerry_Gordon/Implacable_Muslim_Hatred_of_Jews/
"May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." [the curse made by Mohammed when he was dying].
"Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."
"The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him"
"When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire."
https://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Antisemitism
Mohammed was a narcissistic criminal psychopath, who claimed that he was mentioned in the Old Testament, but that the Jews removed the references to him, that he was the Messiah, and that Jesus had foretold his coming, saying, 'After me, shall come one called Ahmad.'
He couldn't even quote Biblical texts accurately, confusing the tree of knowledge with the tree of life, and Miriam, sister of Moses, with Mary (Maryam) mother of Jesus.
His massive inferiority complex is still alive in ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other criminal organisations.
As for Islam's supposed tolerance of Jews, I can provide you with a list of about 50 massacres of Jews throughout the Islamic world, and you may have noticed that Christians are still persecuted and in terminal decline in Islamic countries.
Dark night, the point that I think myself & others have tried to make & your last post restates IDV the ME is a bloody mess, going back centuries, regardless of who you want to blame. It will continue to be a hotbed of trouble for the foreseeable. Cmon if Tony Blair, “ I walk on water” & being an honest sort of guy couldn’t sort it out, what chance lesser mortals like Trump? Hopefully we can now move on.
Long wait I would like to correct you ??? My best friend is a PhD in Middle East religious studies, firstly where do you get your fictional facts from.?? As orange man would say fake news lol
Prophot Mohammed never said to exterminate the Jews, many jews fought alongside the prophet against tyranny and were close allies against the elite pagans, the Jews and Christians at that time were oppressed and mistreated by the persians and Roman's and pagans. Get your facts right. Also was it not the Christian byzantines who protected the Muslim in Iraq against the pagans ? Show the evidence where the prophet stated this. In the middle east before the European began causing war, Muslim Jews and Christians and many pagan religions lived in protection and peace under Islamic rule, in fact the crusades use to kill their own Christians during war. In Spain Muslim.jews and Christians lived in peace for 800 years under Isamic rule ! So please get your facts right. There is nothing in any of the abrahamic religions which states this. I have many friends who are Muslim and Jews and I have never personally read this anywhere or heard this even from any other religions. What I think you are talking about is what Tommy Robinson his like try to paraphrase small bits from the Quran, however that is referring to war on a battle field only an actual battle. Anyway we should be discussing oil and not discussing thousands of years of history. There are dark forces behind all if that so ifs beyond our control. I still have no idea how much hurricane will go up by
Hi Longwait,
…...to say nothing of the 300 year old religious battles nearer to home, on the island of Ireland....
I've heard it said (no link, I'm afraid) that our security forces spend more time and treasure on the 'Irish question' than on the more-publicised concerns re so-called jihadi terrorism.
Ho hum
ATB