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Plebbs
Glad you enjoy my early morning musings. I have the time to review the many posts on HBR in the early hours. Certainly a 'hot' topical chat forum.
Not sure Evergrande paying another Bond payment will calm the Chinese property market for to long with other players missing Bond juice payments. Its basically the worlds largest Ponzi Scheme that will eventually fail and impact all markets. The Chinese Government will then nationalise the lot and give the population cheap housing/condos at the expense of lenders/bondholders from both China and overseas. Kinda the way Communism works and will please the people so Xi will get the plaudits whilst 'Rome burns'.
Blimey Patpong so you've travelled a bit. Been closed for two years I'm told and even when I went there wasn't my favorite place. Bit OTT. Better options in this part of the world if that's what your looking for.
Ok the serious stuff. HBR..so we dropped to 350p (17p) but no real surprise with oil having a bad day and Shell kinda upsetting investors. Oh to be invested in Shell instead of PMO/HBR. Anyway, oil has steadied so what to expect today. My guess is further pressure on HBR if only because the USA and Asia dropped overnight and its Friday and with no positive RNS for HBR I see little upside but hope I'm wrong.
Any idea's on Fridays closing price. My guess is minus 340p but may hold steady at 350p so a hedged bet.
I note HBR email to a kindly investor/poster who asked the obvious concerned questions. HBR curt response said basically. 'don't bother us we're far too busy making sure the lenders are happy'. Sounds about right.
Who or what is 'Linda'.
HC
Upside down world for the cheap and social media wallers , Why? You have shell $17bn - FCF Q3 and FCF will be +15% greater in Q4 but SP marked down - buy a guy who invests $750m - chicken feed - Dan Loeb or whatever Hedge fund - 3Rd Rate Co - to short a company that is looking to change gas emissions by spending $bns - with superb chem engineers a global outreach by some office chumb never changed a tyre - criticising FFS. It would not matter until the British press BRUSHED ASIDE SHELL RESULTS and focused on the Dude. And not investing is scientific FFS Bellecks - rigged stack that apes get off on. Get the hedge funds to go GREEN the tweattesat s GL rant over Ridic. That guy could not run a complex global energy player - he's too greedy. UK press on the take - ..
And with Apple and Amazon disappointing with supply constraints etc …maybe time to push that free central money back into commodities …OPEC 400kbd and no more next week for the Dec increase and just for you Harry to help you write your morning note; evergrande just made another bond payment…hopefully should make that post Patpong hangover a bit more bearable..?
Bays, all a bit c rap but without any news flow from the mothership , they (likely only one person with multiple personalities) have free rein to try and influence the board with assertion and repetition. Only the weak hands , Ill researched and the over leveraged fall for the agenda…all a bit sad as it distracts from the fundamentals. The drop in 10y has pushed the focus back to tech again and the build up to COP doesn’t do energy stocks any favours this week. But the world is currently short energy so the rewards are there for the brave. Iran maybe Biden's saviour in an ironic way, but already producing over 2 mm bpd and an extra 1 hardly touches the sides and that’s a big IF , as the talks are still not set in stone. Putin will re-gas Europe but at a price and possibly a bit late to stop some of the switching of gas to oil. OPEC will remain cautious and want the world to get used to a higher base price; with all the rhetoric of $100 , anything less may seem like a bonus to the non opecians. In the short term US infrastructure bill about to be passed providing an instant shot in the arm. Dips still getting bought and the free money gets moved through the system. Inflation needs a hedge…The majors are dogged by rogue investors and the ESG mob….HBR just needs some news flow to shut the day traders up and reset the base price expectations of the market. Plenty to spend that FCF on, and think you have hit the nail on the head and has more substance than 95% of the posts here…good Luck
Pleebs, its so obvious but worrying the mental health issues here on this BB including me , anyway - the more influence they get (I'm only long at $82+ Brent) they get the SP cheaper, the more they drivel, the longer I look for discount. China on Oil rations - that can't last - how the feck are they going to invade Taiwan, raise an Airforce, fight the Indian border, go to the Moon and Mars and be a world leading economy when truck drivers are rationed to 100litres of diesel per day FFS They will be buying oil big time, especially with winter coming soon . Sit tight peeps watch the HBR discount disappear - today was always a set up Monday Sp up to allow shorting paradise ( which the boys enjoyed) as Oil is worked gown deliberately to get cheap Shell BP shares. There comes a point - WHERE YOU CAN'T SHORT ANYMORE ON FUNDAMENTALS - I'd say £3.45 is it - thats my but mega trigger. GLA
Oil never took out the Jan 2018 high at 86.74…fundamentals are on steroids at the moment with those 5th round of teapot allocations….but have to agree Jeff, energy sector bit unloved with tech catching a bid again…
And oil stops posting and dbno goes long again…anybody got Bergeracs number?
looks likes it trying dbno but your not seeing a bounce back in the sp Hbr shell bp etc.Makes me think there not buying it.
Whichever way its going hope it gets on with it like watching paint dry.
ATB ;-)
18,028 [posts] to date by downbutnotout to date and posting the same drivel. Please someone helps us. NoFear(*__*)
A wee bit transparent and somewhat agenda driven, as they know what’s coming up….hope nobody shaken out ,(unless they wanted to) by the repetitive, calculated , non insightful commentary…imagine this is your day job….good Luck all
here we are again low 350s. we should stop meeting like this. possible oil price will go higher its testing resistance as i type. sold at 361.6p for the record late yesterday.
@OIL
You're off your trolley. Get help. Hopefully, you'll feel better in the soon to come in few months time when we will be going into the New Year 2022 too. Try to get some anger management help. By.(*__*).NoFear
353 now. Time to switch off and come back in a few months. Goodbye for now