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I tend to agree, although some don’t like to hear it.
Folks thinking the fact that we have not been told anything must mean the end of it. We haven't told anything, ever, and yet we still here. The probability we end up with nothing is as likely as the probability we end up with something, given a) we do not have the full facts to hand, and b) FRR continues to fight on, in some form or other.
On the continued lobbbying, I would expect so. This is GD mucking about here. No leaving to chance, especially, with Hope trying it on with GD to the bitter end.
Jonathan
This is not fact though, but only my thoughts. So let's hope I am way off the mark & Frr come up with something that we can all celebrate on not to long after completion.
Arsenal. You're not suggesting long lost Christmas presents are you? ;-)
One thing that I am thinking, is that any £ s being returned will not be early on after restructuring is completed.
On above though we might be lucky & have some form of special divi returned.
WhamBoy
Agree on that section reading in a nice positive way.
Thanks Looed
Similar of course to the other translations, but I did like this bit: “Accordingly, Outrider Management and other companies that have invested capital have not yet received a refund. In this regard, it is understandable that Outrider Management and other shareholders, including me, want to return this capital back to us.”
Including us!
Scripts... I heard it direct from an ex employees mouth that they were back in court sueing fronter on the 31st October. Thinking about this, it appears other things are happening on the 31st too. Could it be a big reveal on that date or the 1st of November? I'm not sure, I have spoken to a few of the ex employees, some have been open and happy to chat, however, one was straight to the point, was very angry with zaza and Co and did not want to talk about it at all. Gave me the impression there was bad blood between them.
Jonathan, : ))
Kippermanbike, IMO Zaza won’t tarnish his rep in Georgia by never paying his employees. Unfortunately, not paying them thus far has been a necessary evil.
There is a lot of circumstantial evidence suggesting we will be included but no proof.
There may well be reasons for the lack of communication but it just doesn't help.
People are entitled to feel positive or negative because of the lack of proof.
Personally, I feel much more positive now than when Hope's begging letter was uncovered.
Good luck all LTH - Hope you will be short term so FFFF off.
Thanks as ever to the super sleuths for keeping us in the picture.
If Zaza becomes more and more politically motivated, I don't think being seen as a fraudster and a charlatan would do his career a lot of good.
Que. Bedex with "oh yes it would..." ;-))
No bedex I can't, just call it feminine intuition.
Seem to recall some contractors were paid in shares? Will they still be holding ppl and therefore aligned with us? Wouldn’t go down well in the industry if they were shafted too.
Folks,
Steve Nicandros’s father progressed through the ranks at Conoco Philip’s and reached the top. His reputation was built on hard work and honesty.
For some people , there are certain things that transcend financial gain and power. Dino Nicandros had a relatively short life , passing away in his late 60’s. I am fairly certain that he instilled in his children the values which he held ; hard work honesty and decency.
I do not think, for one minute , that ; Steve Nicandros will “cheat “ us , out of our shareholding .
Keep the faith
Gray Horse
Can you point me to a single fact that says we are involved in the new enterprise Piscean?.
I agree that to date there isn't anything concrete saying we aren't, apart from being totally ignored for two years which suggests to me they we wont be.
Scripts, something that's not being talked about is the fact that the unpaid employees are back in court at the end of this month.
Reputation, Decency and most of all Glory
Not sure if it's just me but I am taking a lot of comfort from the fact we have a poster who's just crawled out of the woodwork after 21 months spouting negativity.
Why would they take existing shareholders unless they had to?
It seems many are quite dubious as to whether shareholders will have any shareholding in this new company. Label me naive, but It’s my opinion and I find solace in the fact that Zaza is a Georgian, he has invested his money and ours in his country, to better his people. The simple statement he made in response to Outrider, that “Hope has not invested in Georgia” is enough for me to conclude that those that have invested will not be screwed over.
The companies are struck off and no longer exist end of month .
Presumably when that happens it will mean our mens option of giving Hope shares as forfeiture for their personal guarantees disappears and its cash only for the $2m .
Struggle to believe they would bring that outcome upon them selves .
Is it another pointer to a deal done with Hope.
Crazy if it’s possible. List on AIM, build a business using shareholders cash, once at a point where a deal is being done move the assets to another business with sole shareholders, close down the existing business... job done. Rinse repeat!
I’m still hopeful EkXoc. More news still to come here, and personally I think it will be good.
Exkoc,
I'm still cautiously positive about all of this. Zaza hasn't been fighting for all this time for nothing. Hope is showing his desperation and that's a good sign in my eyes too. He wanted to get hold of the licence and bring in pals to extract value. If he's already been offered terms from Zaza, then he's simply being greedy trying to go for the whole lot. Quelle Surprise!
It all points to a positive culmination. Just got to sit it out for (hopefully) a few more days.....
Bezzy