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My post this morning relying re RA thread was deleted and it was nothing contentious but suggesting posters focus on Evraz prospects and not geopolitics. This is blatant censorship.
Just filter the turd, or report his posts to Admin. They'll delete the threads. His posts have nothing whatsoever to do with EVR.
There's another Putin lover on the FRR board. We just keep getting his posts deleted.
The liberal rags you you probably love have been posting dozens of articles on a regular basis about Ukraine's Nazi problem. They've only decided to not mention it the last four months, In case you need some links because you're too bone idle to look for yourself. Here you go.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/neo-nazi-groups-recruit-britons-to-fight-in-ukraine
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/aug/27/they-wanted-to-kill-us-masked-neo-fascists-strike-fear-into-ukraines-roma
There's hundreds more where those came from
@ alwayswinning.
"cleansing of the east". It's completely cleansed now. Of course it's the fault of the Ukrainians. It's their country. It's now destroyed. Well done Russia. Sorry. I meant PUTIN.
Your very use of the word "Nazis" tells me everything i need to know. Another brainwashed idiot, hanging onto every word Putin says. And everything he allows you to watch. What county do you live in? Or indeed, what country? Or both!!
Don't deflect my questions. My posts at 19.12 and 21.05. Please answer them.
Here's another one for you: Why don't you sign up to the "special operation?"
You're the one who raised the subject of death. The reality of war is the figures tell a clear story about what's happening. If it was left to me there wouldn't have even been a war and there wouldn't have been a deaths. It's people like you, thrashing the war drum in favour of a country that hails proud self-confessed Nazi's as hero's that have no heart in all of this. You also didn't seem to care when those very Nazi's shelled and killed 14000 innocent people in eastern Ukraine prior to Russia moving in. You are either utterly clueless or being purposely deceptive.
War is cruel and there are all kinds in every army. As crimes against humanity go, the Azov battalion and the scum that support it have been doing the worst things imaginable to gypsies and innocent "undesirables" since the war began and long before. People tied to lampposts because of there race or creed and brutalised. While we're on the subject of murder, I refer back to the 14000 innocent people killed by the Ukranian government as part of their genocidal cleansing of the east.
@ alwayswinning. Please answer my earlier post @ 19.12.
In particular the bit about DEAD RUSSIAN SOLDIERS!!!! But also about your statement WHO'S WINNING THE WAR. An extremely idiotic statement. And made from someone who clearly favours death, to support, his or hers, idiotic views.
Another question for you, oh guru.
What do you think about the payment and amnesty for Russian prisoners to assist in this "special operation."
I'm assuming these prisoners are not rapists or murderers. They are already part of the Russian army. Maybe they are some of the twits who got their arses kicked in France.
Just a couple of questions for you mate.
Russia is one of the only true conservative capitalists nations in the world today. Britain and the US who entertain all the liberal woke weirdos and now confiscate private property are the closest things to communists that I can see.
As far as the shopping mall goes, it's common knowledge it had been closed for months and the missile was targeting a railway spur and military related facility next to the shopping mall. The empty shopping mall may have also been used by the military. More cheap western propaganda. If you get you news from more than one source you'd know this. Unless of course you and all the other turnips here are 77th con artists trying to manipulate the minds of shareholders of a company that has been badly wronged.
@ alwayswinning.
Seeing as though you are "the guru" regarding this war, perhaps you could answer this for me.
How many Russian soldiers have died since this "special operation?"
If the war could have been over in days, as you put it, so lets say early April, how many Russian soldiers would have died?
Eastern Ukraine? Isn't that the area that the Russians claimed as their own? Isn't it decimated because of the war?
And when you speak of "delicately." Do you mean that hoax of a picture showing a missile just about to hit a shopping centre? Or the aftermath pictures.
And the worst thing in your post:
""""You'd also do well to note that the real casualty and death figures tell you exactly who's winning this war, and it ain't Ukraine."""""
That line sums up everything about your pro-Russian, Putin loving posts. I think you're a very sick individual.
NOBODY WINS IN WAR!!!!!!!!
Get down off your commie soapbox you jerk. I, and I'll wager many, many more, are fed up of your pro Russian rhetoric. If life's so good there, why haven't former Soviet states run back into Mother Russias arms? No, they know where there are better lives.
Does Putins arse taste of chocolate? Just wondered, seeing as you lick it often enough. Keep your commie views off this BB you troll.
"So Russia have prolonged this war, when it could've been over at the beginning of April? For 3 months Putin has been sending his soldiers to their death. Or haven't Russia had any casualties? More western lies?"
Are you purposely trying to be an imbecile IsleworthSpy?
Russia hasn't gone in all guns blazing because it's trying to protect the people in eastern Ukraine. Russia wants to minimize casualties as much as possible. It's been willing to sacrifice it's own soldiers to use the softly softly approach. The Ukrainian army has been purposely hiding in, and launching attacks from eastern towns and cities to try and turn the people of eastern Ukraine against Russia, flee and/or see them killed. The Ukrainian army has spent the last eight years shelling and killing the people of eastern Ukraine and now they're using them as human shields. Russia has gone in as delicately as possible.
Regarding Russian soldiers dying, yes they are, that's how war works you complete imbecile. You'd also do well to note that the real casualty and death figures tell you exactly who's winning this war, and it ain't Ukraine.
Russia is a failed state, with leaders who've consistently and systematically failed their own citizens, and is now forcibly making Ukraine an even poorer country than it already was - which, by some measures, was the poorest in Europe even before the war, but of course now ....
It seems a shame they haven't recently done anything constructive for the world - and threatening to cause widespread nuclear destruction doesn't count either, and nor does stealing grain that others so desperately need around the world.
One day they might ... or might not.
Exactly - It's actually laughable. Just like the Russian Military. At this point I think Britain alone could take Russia, Poor excuse for a 'SuperPower'
Only thing Russia has done, has created a huge monetary problem for the Russian people. It won't be long till we see the images again back when they were eating horses/anything they could to avoid starvation.
@ alwayswinning.
"""Russia could have steamrolled Ukraine in a matter of days if it had wanted to."""
What an odd thing to say.
So Russia have prolonged this war, when it could've been over at the beginning of April? For 3 months Putin has been sending his soldiers to their death. Or haven't Russia had any casualties? More western lies?
Problem is they wont take those oligarch off sanction list so evr will not be trading in uk. Will they trade in russia?
They have assets in usa also, the big boys may take this private and may get investment back.
UK and EU sure messed up here..
Take a look on YouTube about how simple russians live...its easy for you write nonsenses ..when you sitting at PC in your warm room and your fridge loaded with food...
11% russians are below poor level of living standards
Go and live there then, if Russia is so fkn great.
"Putin hasn't destroyed our economy, Boris and Biden have. Remember that."
Remembered.
It's sad to see so many people falling for the same old lies churned out by the mainstream media. The thousands of fake accounts on social media, plus the spam comments on news articles put out by the likes of 77th brigade may have sucked some of the more simple minded folk in, but I think most intelligent people who don't get all their news from one source (If you do, then you'd love North Korea) know full well Russia has had this war under control from the outset, contrary to most claims in the mainstream media.
Russia could have steamrolled Ukraine in a matter of days if it had wanted to. Russia assigned what is essentially an expeditionary force of less than 80k soldiers, out of it's army comprising as much as 3 million including reserves give or take. Russia is outnumbered many times over in Ukraine against the Ukrainian army, never mind the untrained armed conscripts and mercenaries fighting there who eclipse the actual Ukrainian army.
With the smallest number of soldiers and equipment mobilised, Russia has methodically cut through a western backed Ukraine that is armed to the teeth with everything the west has at it's disposal, all the money it wants at it's disposal, and all the mercenaries it can get from the rest of Europe at it's disposal and it's losing in spectacular fashion.
The mainstream media and the likes of 77th Brigade are making themselves look foolish given the glaring reality of the situation now. Time for them to let up and accept the reality that the west has failed miserably yet again and plunged it's own people into deeper poverty. Putin hasn't destroyed our economy, Boris and Biden have. Remember that.
People’s interpretations of what is happening vary massively. I’d say Russia have made a right mess of this and have completely under estimated the resolve of the Ukraine and it’s people, plus how much help and compassion they would received from ROW.
In terms of "winning", I'd agree that Russia is way ahead in relation to the destruction of lives, living standards, physical property, and war crimes - plus of course on the number of countries that it's threatened to nuke and obliterate if they continue to say nasty things about it.
And not a single word that could be construed as propaganda from Russia either, not even by Lavrov.
As I've said several times. The western media has been lying constantly for propaganda purposes. Last week they said the battle over Lysychansk would last months and I said it would fall to Russia well within a fortnight. It's obvious Russia is winning on all fronts, and if the west and Zelensky don't back down, there'll be no Ukraine left to argue over. Time for them to sit down and agree to allow eastern Ukraine to become a republic or part of Russia as the people there desire.
Boris, Biden and the European NATO puppets have destroyed their own economies over literally nothing but an expensive experiment in what happens when you keep poking a bear. Well at least we know now, and we're all the weaker for it.
@wolfofwarks you could be right.
Just heard a former British Army general (?? didn't catch the name) talking to Lisa Aziz (LBC Radio) and it looks like Russia will end up taking 20% of Ukraine, NATO will not oppose and Ukraine will have to live with this.
We may have an option to trade EVR on a different exchange in the future - as long as it's not the MOEX - as others have pointed out.
GLA
I think in time RA will end up giving his shares to be sold for Ukraine rebuild or divi
It all depends on what a post war relationship with Russia looks like.
I can't see a situation where a majority owned Russian company will be allowed to have the prominence it once had as a flagship FTSE company - perhaps a much smaller presence outside the premium listings.
We will definitely trade again, but in my opinion definitely NOT this year. I would estimate between 1-2 years from now. There is a chance of a special dividend though perhaps sooner, still not this year though. The war has to finish first