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Premier Foods Share Chat (PFD)



Share Price: 39.25Bid: 39.00Ask: 39.25Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Prem Foods
Spread: 0.25Spread as %: 0.64%Open: 39.50High: 40.00Low: 38.50Yesterday’s Close: 39.25


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3cardbrag
Posts: 2,065
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Re Darby coming to 4 years
25 Jan '17
As far as I'm concerned, Michael Clark saved the company and Darby has so far just lived off Clarke's legacy.
 
bistolover
Posts: 258
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darby is coming to 4 years
25 Jan '17
in charge in February.

what has he achieved for shareholders: share price down from 93p to 40p, like for like trading profits from £139m (2013)to £131m (2014/15, 2016) to £118m or less (2017)

can see another right issue in the couple of years if darby stays in charge as the debt to EBITDA will be a lot more than 4 times, perhaps 5 times.
bistolover
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for oasis to get to 10%
25 Jan '17
will require another worsening trading statement from magic formulae specialist darby, which he will happily deliver for year end. Alternatively the market makers will drive this down and down and down, to break stop losses, just can't see many small investors having the stomach for it.

Oasis must have known about the trading statements as they always stop stake building after a small period of time as they know another bad one is coming, so they just wait for darby to deliver without fail.

Both the November and January trading statements are highly suspicious.
Dierich
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DoomMonger
25 Jan '17
Any comps worth investing in ?

Don't want to hear about what not to invest in.
2reincarnated
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Re: Oasis
25 Jan '17
At 5% they were singled out as ''being upto something'' what would be said of them if they hit 10%? They are referred to as ''active investors''
2reincarnated
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AndAnotherThing
25 Jan '17
Nissin are not a hedge fund!!! They invest for the future and appreciate it takes time. Not too different to the huge number of Japanese companies that invested in China decades ago, to only now reap the benefits.
The last thing on their mind would have been the loss of interest. It must be appreciated, Nissin could in theory begin to manufacture under more than just the Batchelors brand.
dogger
Posts: 106
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RNS times 2
25 Jan '17
Oasis above 8%
Merrill Lynch above 7%
AndAnotherThing
Posts: 23
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RE: Doomonger
25 Jan '17
Not lost anything?!

They, like us, have lost the growth on their capital if they had invested their money elsewhere. Or, avoided interest by paying down debt instead. The difference for them, versus us, is that they may have gained some benefit business-wise, but we haven't heard much along those lines yet.

Some people go with the misguided belief that you haven't lost anything on your shares until you sell them, if you sell at less than what you paid....not true...you've lost any fees associated with holding them, plus the dividends and capital growth you would have received on your money if you had invested elsewhere.

There's not much benefit to investing £50K for 8 years to get £51K back when you sell...paying monthly fees along the way and only earning £1K....better off having your money sit in a High St bank for 8 years....many people on here are hoping to 'break even' or come close to it, with a buyout, by recouping the average share price of their holdings....which is still a loss, when you consider what their money could have been doing for them for the past several years, and fees, etc....

Lots of conjecture on this board, and none of it ever seems to happen....like the £1.20 per share some were hyping in Nov-Dec 2015 as on it's way in Jan 2016....I recall saying more likely 55p and that didn't go over very well with quite a few on here...as it turned out, I had over-estimated, lol. All good fun.

Here's hoping for some serious stake-building and then that power being used for a regime change.....then the sp will rise and things will start to happen.
2reincarnated
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Doomonger
25 Jan '17
They have not yet lost anything and like I said they could get the whole company for an average of much less than 60p, if it ever fell to 20/30p.
After that they would use Batchelors to their advantage and possible use Sharwoods to diversify their ''one track'' portfolio. Before long in London we would see a ''sweet treats'' float. With Bisto etc being flogged to Mc Cormick. If Mc Cormick jumped in they would do the same.
DoomMonger
Posts: 349
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RE: Doomonger
25 Jan '17
40p is proving tricky to break through but that's where we heading. I have no idea why Nissin paid 60 odd p. Not nice to lose 1/3 of your investment.




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