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Its Week next Thursday ...6pm Mobberly Village Hall , Cheshire.

Me ...deramper .... I say politely.... sod off

Madpunter
Re the 5%Ra ....I thought that is what we LEFT in AFTER the transfer of asset ...block 12 ..from FRCC .
So what removal is liquidator potentially challenging ?
Have I totally misunderstood , please tell me yes !

RR
In the legals we are on the back foot in 3/4 of our battles
1.California.....FRR suing Hope et al .....currently talking to each other in ADR
2.Texas .. Our Directors are being sued ....no response from them seen yet
3.Caymans Court ....Our directors are being sued ....no response from them seen yet
4.Caymans Liquidation....Our directors have issued DOS which court papers indicate has no substance in that liquidator has not been shown any evidence to back up the DOS .
I think once under court supervision DOS ceases ( I may be wrong ) and the “12 month “ window closes.Possibly our directors are then liable for false DOS.
Then the bigger issue of liquidator seemingly challenging removal of assets, possibly tying process up for years .
Are / have we sold Georgia to BP or JV ....really struggle with that possibility bearing in mind ownership of asset is being challenged in courts .
As much as I want , indeed need this to come good the skies look very dark at present from my viewpoint .
If ADR brings a settlement to Cali and linked actions can liquidator be requested to stop his actions .... same if we get funds via loan, is it as simple as , here you are , here’s your money now go away Hope and liquidator also stops ....... I don’t know how it works ....anyone ?????

I think week Friday is date when ZN , SN have to reply to Hopes summons re Personal Guarantee.
Assume they will defend
Or
Will they not defended, allowing Hope to win by default . Presumably there will be a process to follow re satisfying court order for payment which will take more time .
The more I think about it maybe that will be their chosen route as cannot see them being successful in defending until Hopes past actions have been nailed in other courts .
Its the same $2m as being pursued in Caymans so maybe the view will be why spend more money on expensive lawyers.
Obviously its against them personally so that may change the dynamics together with have we / about to ....sold / got loan etc

Forgot to add:
Courts guidance notes state 98% of cases don’t progress to trial .

https://www.cand.uscourts.gov/filelibrary/38/Dispute_Resolution_Procedures_Jan.2016.pdf

I see there a different ADR process...missed in initial reading court order that judge has ordered the mediation process of ADR . Below is taken from local rules of the court :

Mediation
Goal
The goal of mediation is to reach a mutually satisfactory agreement resolving all or part of the dispute by carefully exploring not only the relevant evidence and law, but also the parties’ underlying interests, needs and priorities.
Process
Mediation is a flexible, non-binding, confidential process in which a neutral lawyer-mediator facilitates settlement negotiations. The informal session typically begins with presentations of each side’s view of the case, through counsel, clients, or both. The mediator, who may meet with the parties in joint and separate sessions, works to:
* Improve communication across party lines;
* Help parties clarify and communicate their interests and understand those of their opponent;
* Probe the strengths and weaknesses of each party’s legal positions; and
* Identify areas of agreement and help generate options for a mutually agreeable resolution.
The mediator generally does not give an overall evaluation of the case. Mediation can extend beyond traditional settlement discussion to broaden the range of resolution options, often by exploring litigants’ needs and interests that may be independent of the legal issues in controversy.
Maybe the final sentence above was in judges mind when ordering this route .

Star
Final post from me on this issue .
Seems that you cannot back up the statement you made ...as fact ... last night re Cairns being lied to by FRR ....with facts . Even if you say that is what you think ( as opposed to know) you have agreed that Zaza would not expect Cairns to NOT be aware of LD contents ...so why would he lie to them ( not a question )
Re your NDA claim ..... Hey you may have contacted a ““have you been duped on the stock market” no win / fee vulture type lawyer ....but NDA agreement with Cairns ( what you inferred ) ..... think thats just a load of ball..ocks really .

Star ,I have no idea , but you said last night Cairns were lied to , inferring over Loan Doc’s / RNS , hence my question to you of Zaza expecting Cairn ...not ..to read Doc’s .
You are saying it arrogant to take a stance on the difference between LD& RNS ....isn’t suing Cairns taking a stance on the issue .
Re my question of your NDA , you have not answered.
Not having a go just want to get clear understanding of your comments this last 24 hrs

But I thought you were suing Cairns for not checking loan agreement doc’s against RNS contents

Star...so same question as I asked you last night ....what was it the Cairn were lied to about?

Star
Also , why are you not suing PWC ...or are you?

Star
So what you are suggesting / saying is the company knew that Cairn would NOT read the documents .
Also, re you suing Cairn , you have said I think that you are under NDA ...inference is with Cairn ...., that implies you have won your claim , why would they want NDA if they won , or why NDA if still ongoing .

Star, I am the thicko of the bunch here and also late to the party so please help me out . Re you earlier post what was it that Cairn were lied to about ?

Made me smile . Post from person criticising grammar of others , starts with lowercase letter , as their sentences frequently do .
Very brave admitting mental dulness

CF73 agree with you in general , but think this falls outside that criteria. They have been sent copy of press release with question ...fake. or real .
If it was fake you would think FRR if asked , would confirm as they did couple of months ago . If real ...well they put it out ... so why would they not confirm real .
YJ must be on some form of retainer even if very modest amount , easy money for them at present Perhaps they are content in little pay for doing nothing as opposed to saying to FRR ...whats this , was it you , why did you not ask us to get involved .

Bit of a feeble response from YJ . Tim might be away but would expect them to contact FRR to seek clarification , not just sit there waiting to be told.

Thank you for the apology

Star
Think its fair to say you come in for some stick on here .
Fair also to say that you put some good factual posts on
Fair also to say that the way you protract your views does come across at times as conceited.
Fair to say that I suppose I have held neutral views as to what type of person you rally are outside the bubble of this board .
However re your final line in your post of 19.18 i.e.
.....“Some of the oldies on here must be worried if they'll ever see a conclusion!”.....
I think that was totally out of order , nasty and vindictive.
I think its fair to ask that you apologise for that remark .
I also think its fair to conclude that if you don’t feel you need to apologise for the remark you show your self as being the type of person I would not wish to associate with , or more importantly .....be seen to associate with ......in the real world that lies outside this environment .

No doubt you will respond , as you always do .
If its an apology to the board I will respond thanking you , if you defend or attempt to justify your comment , I will not respond , as you will only follow on again as you always have to do , as it seems its in your nature to strive to have the final word whatever .

Hopefully re 2 in previous post they agreed rather judge ordering .But if Judge did impose order at least he must have heard something from them that stopped him saying ...oh forget it go away i.e. 3