'Mookster abandoned all accountabiliy since CINE entered Ch 11 and shareholders haven't kicked up a fuss either, and have not even called for their sacking/resignation. He has gotten away with it so why should he change now when the company's fate has been decided. '
SH wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. As soon as CW entered C11 the shareholder power was removed with all big decisions having to go through the court trustees.
RE: Cineworld Stock is Still a Hold For Now.7 Jul 2023 19:07
Poor - They can't do that even if they wanted to. By the time the UK part happens the Crown holding company will already have been transferred to Newco. Everybody else gets paid before holders.
The administration doesn't really need to go at any type of speed as they are only winding down the holding company. By this point the company and jobs have already been saved.
For someone who quite often trumps DYOR it might be advised to actually do some :)
'Debate about higher interest rates pushing most advanced economies into recession in the months ahead.
Recession will hit all shares regardless because investors sell out and become too frightened to buy shares.'
That would depend on whether or not most of it is already priced in. A large economic downtown and higher interest rates re-rated most growth and tech shares 18 months ago.
I think most investors at this point are looking for earnings pivot and a clear bottom. Earnings season coming up which will be the catalyst for the next drop or fall imo.
'I do not see BOO making anything from their Debs purchase in clothing terms - makeup no idea. They have failed to invest in the brand since purchase and are neither one thing or the other. Sorry but I am not convinced outside of fast fashion they have a clue.'
That's not true. They have set up a HQ down in London for the acquired brands and fully staffed it. It's a tech project so I assume this office will be full of It and creatives. To say they've not invested in it when the main investment will be in intangibles seems a tad daft to me.
At it's most simplest I'd probably divide the interest paid from the latest set of data that was realised onto the levels of debt to give a discount rate.
Not too sure how detailed the data is on the post C11 forecasts but it might be able to work something out there for the new CW.
Which press is that Ian? The only press I ever see confirms that this is going bankrupt. I can't think of one piece of journalism I've seen where pressing questions are being asked of the legitimacy of the C11.
Vodafone have €5bn a year free cash flow. I doubt very much they are considering a C11 .....
You need to looks at the size of the debt relative to revenue and profits - CW's was far outsized compared to Voda.
'WolfofWarks - please give your reasons for disagreeing with the statement.'
I hadn't realised I had disagreed with your statement. I was more looking for you to back it up with why you think what you say. But as usual it's all fluff and judging by some of the other gems you can out with you probably don't understand what you are saying in the first place.
So come on why do you think the USA NDC will take two years to become profitable. Give us your insight. Do you have some experience, expertise or familiarity with starting up distribution and logistics are maybe you know a thing or two about the US market that we dont?