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thanks DOTLINK appreciate all the updates, your good at cut and pasting i'll give you that..., btw how many shs do you have now, i have 52,211 to be precise... cheers

hi JCB hope all is well .. have you heard of any developments at all! cheers

yes i know they have ended all their announcements with a similarly worded phrase all through the reorg process. just so we dont get carried away hey!... fingers crossed again.... lucks gotta change . i am also heavilt invested in range resources check out the bb on that one today .. oh gawd

negative

hi jcb yes i thought exactly the same ... perhaps its about time we get a positive outcome rather than

yup. groundhog day : company needs funding if not might go bust

thanks mate what you take from that?

it wasnt that long ago that broekr target was about £1.20. yes we have a placing since then but no that much so it just shows you how the GP has trashed this even though we have an excellent BOD and low prod costs. Been talk over takeovers by Chinese on this for a long while

yes was reading the same . if the original production claims were realistic talv has under delivered massively but like you hint if they turn it around the income would be massive well 50k x 17000 thats 850,000,000 USD .. wow

i think you have hit the nail on the head there my friend .. oh how i wish i still drank .. i was so much easier then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Minister of Economic Affairs has according to YLE called for a special audit of the mining company. PEKKA Jaatinen, the administrator of the corporate re-organisation of Talvivaara, has portrayed a too rosy picture of the financial prospects of the cash-strapped nickel miner, claims Jan Vapaavuori (NCP), the Minister of Economic Affairs. Although credible international investors have indicated their tentative interest in Talvivaara, the negotiations have hardly advanced to a stage "where we could begin to talk about a solution," Vapaavuori reminded on 18 November. On 17 November Jaatinen told Helsingin Sanomat that "a very credible and reliable international company" has expressed its willingness to invest a minimum of 150 million euros in the company. YLE reported on 18 November that Vapaavuori has called for a special audit of the bankruptcy state of Talvivaara Sotkamo as well as its listed parent company. "I don't necessarily suspect that something is amiss, but the estate in question is so extensive and messy that it would be appropriate to handle the case like this to ensure that there is no blowback," he explained. In addition, the Minister of Economic Affairs reminded that the Government can only invest in the mining operations if they are established on a credible basis. "The company will require a lot of new expertise," he pointed out. He similarly refused to speculate on the amount the Government would be willing to invest in the operations. "Speculation over who will provide how much will get us nowhere. It boils down to a reliable overall solution," Vapaavuori stressed. "A lot of capital is clearly needed to re-start the operations and to guarantee that the operations become profitable in the long term. Several unresolved questions also persist, such as questions of environmental responsibility." The Government, he added, is unlikely to take a decision on Talvivaara in the immediate future. "On the other hand, it's also clear that we don't have too much time. Talvivaara is being run by a bankruptcy estate that essentially has no capital, while the mine is chiefly being run by the state." "Some sort of reliable overall solution must be found in the months to come," concluded Vapaavuori.

The political leaders and officials began to prepare for bankruptcy in October 2013. Talvivaara's financial management presentations are not unworthy politicians , because they want to get rid of Talvivaara . It is most easily cleans off all the debts. Off to be cleaned up also Pekka Pera , mine scandalous stretch of the embodiment . Debt-free , and "Falsely " mine can make auctioned before the spring parliamentary elections. This week, the state and the bedrock of the dispute became public . Free Mountain and the State Ownership Steering Unit Manager Mr Heliövaara also require the parent company Talvivaara speedy bankruptcy. The parent company reorganized Pekka Jaatinen again said he had found a buyer that wants to invest EUR 150 million in the new company , in which the other owners would Talvivaara's current owners and creditors . lso thought about hiring should be disconnected from one hundred million Talvivaara division of labor is now is that the state has set aside tens of millions of euros in the mine to run as long as the bankruptcy estate and the secured creditors , ie banks massaging the agreement together interested parties. Buyer Candidates will certainly require that the state lead the Talvivaara hands-on , until the emissions , production and reputation of the crucial problems in the discharge tube Nuasjärvi is built. Tube should be , but next spring , when the Talvivaara needs of their waters exemption for running . Arrangement makes it even more difficult by the fact that the creditor banks are not as busy as the politicians . Talvivaara's value will rise sharply if the mining will start in state money. State operation at Talvivaara raises a lot of questions : Why the state does not invest in working in a mine , as it has in the past invested in a non-functional in a mine ? If the investment desires is not the case, why the major shareholder vitkutteli renovation with the year and gave the necessary financing to grow by tens of millions ? Why the state does not support Perä the fight in favor of the mine to keep the current owner ? And why the state did not give the other owners to finance the mine , as it would have cost only a few million ? If the State had the week before last given to Talvivaara to miss in less than ten million in the mid-term money , the company would have been able to organize the share issue and the calculated motion of the bond . It is more than a gut feeling that the Talvivaara few ten largest shareholders would still be reluctant to finance the mine . A private investor would certainly come off even one hundred million Talvivaara , and a new set of loan would have been probably the second " a hundred euros ." However, the major shareholder decided that the Stern lose the battle and the state who rode into the scene and his cavalry messinkitorvet swamps . a lot Talvivaara's personnel point of view, the future looks very good. Work will con

price of nickel . Talk of " the lack of the nickel price " are nonsense. Talvivaara would have benefited from a dark autumn, the 2013 ( Nickel $ 13 000 / t) , where the production was 30 000 tonnes level . he same can not be said of many of the Talvivaara competitors. Excavation under way immediately The essential question is not now why Talvivaara is only half a functioning primary to the planned instead of four . The answer to that question is long and complex , book -long story. The essential question is this : at the Talvivaara mine will begin again and anyone with the money? It is a life and death issue, because the funding is growing rapidly as the months pass and the existing piles metals are dwindling . Mine the long-term financing is currently a couple of hundred million. If the new piles should not be, in the end ramp-up cost has already sided billion. In a start-up at the expense of no one hardly launch a Winter danger . The new owner must therefore be found quickly. If the mining and waterlogged heaps dismantling would begin in early December , in the spring of mine would be the new , hot and active heaps . It would go for the second year until production would be 30 000 tonnes per year . New piles is also a good side , that each of them binds to half a million cubic meters of water , reducing the mine by preserving the water to cause risk. If the mining, crushing and stacking do not start for a few months, the risk to the environment increases, the likelihood of the continuation of mining operations will fall and the mine shut-down threat. While driving down the direct cost is estimated at EUR 200 million. This money seems disproportionate , but on the other hand the multiplier effects of the Talvivaara closure of the national economy benefit of the bill can easily exceed a billion. New host , new voice When Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb (National Coalition Party ), Jan Vapaavuori ( National Coalition Party) , Sanni Grahn -Laasonen ( National Coalition Party) and Lauri Ihalainen (SDP) visited the Talvivaara on Friday 14 November , we saw the television news that Peter Stern is not hosted ministers. Talvivaara is a new host, the clock has an interesting sound . Bankruptcy Murheenkryyni changed overnight "fine and legitimate " ( Stubb ) mine , which immediately expressed interest in " more credible body " ( Free Mountain ) . The fact is that the interested parties have had the entire renovation period , but the uncertainty associated with the environmental permit has been expelled and the industrial players and investors . Applying for financing did not help vitkuttelu debt cutting proposal. No one place without the knowledge of the balance sheet remaining debt. Restructuring proposal delayed because of Talvivaara management and majority owner of the state have driven different pram. Stern has tried to maintain the current owners of the mine , and to themselves.

'Talvivaara writer Marko erola , " the old owners would still come off one hundred million euros " Utu created by Marko erola is a writer and freelance journalist . Erolan book Cursed mine appears in the 25 November. It says the mining company Talvivaara story. The book is published by Talentum , which is also the economic life by the publisher. Pekka Pera call me on Monday evening, November 3rd. He has finally had time to check the quotations Cursed mining book. Hilkulle went. Talvivaara's book about the battle of survival is going to print a couple of days . Stern desired by the changes are small, only single words. He was going through my mind text will ask either to be renovated mining company has found the financier. However, I ask the question because Stern is not responding. But he seems quite a good mood . The book assumes the weight of time. The very next morning, Talvivaara's story will be a surprise twist: the production company Talvivaara Sotkamo files for bankruptcy . " Only yesterday, we had reason to believe that the current corporate money today operation of the next round. In the morning, it became clear that it is not ," Stern said at a press conference on 6 November. Finnish state has not provided funding for the mid-term to Talvivaara , which enabled the restructuring and negotiations with the mining company's long-term financing package to continue. The first time I lose sleep because of the Talvivaara . Dream does not scare away the fact that the bankruptcy " had time " book. I was awake by the fact that Talvivaara machines and for many years was funded by the owners of the mine to lose , now that it finally works. It dissolves after all Grand Inquisitor of the Catholic Church in front of the victim , Galileo Galilei allegedly kneeling when entering the mutisseen defiantly " EPPUR si muove " , it moves after all. Origin is in its own Inquisition hokenut " it dissolves after all ," but still , there are those who doubt the bio-leaching and Talvivaara opportunities for profitable business. or them , know that without bankruptcy Talvivaara would be this year produced the ten thousand tons of nickel available to the other side of the leach . Four Heap of nickel would have been about 32 000 tonnes. Multiplication is not straightforward, because of the lack of money , Talvivaara has bled heaps , or by a metal factory in the solution with a concentration of metal has not had time to rise for optimal performance. Milking , as well as slow down the dissolution that calculates the recovery of the metal intake. When the output of more than 30 000 tonnes, tonnes of nickel conclusion of the cash cost at Talvivaara is only kahdeksisen thousand dollars. The nickel market is moving 15 000 per tonne, four Heap cash flow would have been a couple of hundred million in the black. Anyone know how to calculate , how briskly the cash flow will rise with the price of n

Talvivaara's President and CEO Pekka Stern , corporate restructuring attending the liquidator Pekka Jaatinen and government debate on the future of the Talvivaara mine sounds odd and the role of the division is hard to keep track , write the HS's editorial Paavo Rautio analysis . The liquidator is optimistic and believes that the new purchaser to find. Perak has entrusted this to happen . Pessimistic warns against the state , wants a special audit and Talvivaara's parent company in bankruptcy. I mean, who now run small owners and taxpayers' interests ? Who creditors ? Who is mine ? Talvivaara Mining Company went years ago so serious economic problems , the Espoo District Court decided to initiate bankruptcy proceedings . At the same time ordered Mr Pekka Jaatinen the reorganization process administrator. A year later, Espoo District Court set the Talvivaara Sotkamon bankruptcy. Talvivaara Sotkamo is not the size of the Talvivaara Group . Working in the mining company is a listed parent , Talvivaara Mining Company Plc's 84 percent owned subsidiary . The Finnish government was not satisfied with the ownership structure and restructuring. They have been evaluated only prolonged the inevitable. Representatives of the state it would have been much more effective to put the whole Talvivaara all for bankruptcy at one time and on time. This would have cleaned the table and offered better conditions for the sale of mining operations . Willing to purchase more could be found if the parent rasitteineen to one side, pondered by the Board of Directors . Such a äkkipäätös would not have been Stern 's interest. Board of Directors assumption is that the sale of the mine to ensure a smooth run more smoothly , the fewer players in the past has been involved in the sales operation . The prolongation of the situation has led to the fact that the government has become an annoyance to the Jaatinen . He drives the first place, the creditors interest and there is no state payroll. Creditors do not appear to have had the same desire äkkiratkaisusta . Most likely, the state has to make a possible sale a few concessions . One of the most important is the fact that the government is giving the new owner , the State pin will go all or part of the environmental damage already incurred or confirmed kyteneet the time of purchase of the mine area. Such a concession would of course be a little tricky to offer, if the old - accused of environmental damage - players would have a mine of new buyers . Damage to the monetary value estimates for some of the millions to hundreds of millions. Future surprises fear of slow down in any event the sale . Special Auditors must be missing daughter and mother mutual cash flows. Subsidiary is in bankruptcy , but it is to support mother. Emo offers - filing for bankruptcy decision, - "service Talvivaara Sotkamon the bankruptcy estate ." A challenging task when the mine worke

hi jcb yes i must agree with there i will try to hang on to my sanity the best I can

feeling very lonely on here !!!!!!

Listed Talvivaara corporate restructuring, the liquidator , Mr Pekka Jaatinen of the preparations for the new financing to acquire the Talvivaara mining operations are well advanced for the purchase . Economy Minister Jan Vapaavuori, Jaatinen , however, gives the Talvivaara funding too rosy a picture. Journalist Anna -Liina Kauhanen HS , a description of Terhi Liimu HS. Bankruptcy of the state investment company Solidium and all the nearly 80 000 small investor's investment would become worthless. Jaatinen on a proposal might be able to produce something in the future. So maybe. Past the basis of the default return is small, but it is still greater than zero . Very much depends on whether the Talvivaara mine business in general , be profitable. However, the issue is assessing the profitability of the effectiveness of bioleaching method Sotkamo can process developing activities . Political passions it may also be listed Talvivaara CEO Pekka Pera colorful . Potential conflicts between people , however, should not be an obstacle to the business of economic reasoning . One of the shareholders is not necessarily the origin, but what if the majority of the keep? Board of the company is to promote the company and its shareholders. The CEO appoints and dismisses the Companies Act, the Board of Directors. Likely to know the exact origin of the mine production process better than anyone else , and he could help develop it better and safer. On the other hand is also possible that it was Stern has contributed to the problems. Maybe he just the state of a listed company through bankruptcy wants to get rid of . Target price would be very high Solidium and small investors.

Talvivaara shows that the business should always be kept separate from politics The business should always be kept separate from politics Business and the integration of policies which often have high risks . Political passions rarely comply with the laws of business . Talvivaara mine is an example of how the political and economic interests of the business can go to the node. In a market economy principle is that the state does not intervene and participate in the activities of private companies . A principle of rare, since the state must also consider the national interest. The mining industry is an important sector for Finland . State's intention to obtain a listed company Talvivaara bankruptcy is difficult to understand economically , but politically it may wish to understand. Policies patience hardly takes any more setback , or damage to the environment by Talvivaara. article related to Mr Free Free Mountain Mountain Talvivaara funding is given too rosy a picture 11.18.2014 Background: The search for donors, 2:00 Politicians want to publicly listed companies a fresh start with a clean slate of a listed company through bankruptcy . The same new start with a clean slate is seeking a listed company Talvivaara corporate restructuring, insolvency administrator Pekka Jaatinen . The only difference is that the Jaatinen trying to avoid a public company bankruptcy . The liquidator with the same objective , there also seems creditors , since none of them has never applied for a company to go bankrupt. ourt appointed liquidator's main task is to promote the interests of the creditors . The bankruptcy court to decide , and not the shareholders or the politicians. The separation of powers doctrine can be considered on the basis that it is problematic that the executive power of using the Minister of Economic Affairs , Jan Vapaavuori ( National Coalition Party) to take a position in the main action proposed by the listed company's bankruptcy. The separation of powers doctrine is intended to ensure the independence of the courts in particular . It is also a key principle of the rule of law . Listed Talvivaara corporate restructuring, the liquidator , Mr Pekka Jaatinen of the preparations for the new financing to acquire the Talvivaara mining operations are well advanced for the purchase . Economy Minister Jan Vapaavuori, Jaatinen , however, gives the Talvivaara funding too rosy a picture. Journalist Anna -Liina Kauhanen HS , a description of Terhi Liimu HS. Bankruptcy of the state investment company Solidium and all the nearly 80 000 small investor's investment would become worthless. Jaatinen on a proposal might be able to produce something in the future. So maybe. Past the basis of the default return is small, but it is still greater than zero .

It is planned that this group is made to the District Court the contact listing . It is thought that specifies the list of those who have a clear requirement in euros and then the interpretation of the law requirements, for example, reserved the right to later reimbursement claim. The list is expected to be issued in the coming week . The list is the name of at least 150 , with a clear requirement in euros and other wholesale . Riihimäki emphasizes the ownership of the law should not be initiated by sending a simple list , and the Regional State Administrative Agency is no information on how the district court case proceeds . - Does the District Court then claimants to contact or how to initiate the entry takes place , it is the district court to consider the matter . Riihimäki , the difficulty coefficient of fact, increased by the fact that the previous administrative practice there is such a large dossier . - It may be something to the forest industry and fish-kills -related lawsuits since the 1970s , but the rules have changed since then several times. Of the models is not. The estate of criminal responsibility will be announced later The district court judge Jyrki Määttä to emphasize that the decision to separate trials carried out at a later stage . - This is an exceptional and a great package that requires special care and precision in all their aspects are taken into account . At least this year it takes to complete, before getting to the actual stage of the court , says Määttä . This is an exceptional and a great package that requires special care and precision in all their aspects are taken into account . - Jyrki Määttä The indicted to the Talvivaara Sotkamo required to EUR 850 000 for a corporate fine , which is the maximum allowed by law . The question of how the company's bankruptcy affect the success of the indictment , and the accused is inherited from the prospective transferee is a District Judge Määtällä a snappy answer. - Case clear from the case in the final decision . I would say that at this point I will not comment . Talvivaara accusations deals with the Talvivaara mine planning and research phase , as well as environmental and water application of the authorization of the operator's negligence , the different types of waste handling and disposal of the operator's negligence , the gypsum pond construction and the use of the operator's negligence , as well as the Talvivaara mine in a controlled natural environment managed and unmanaged nature rung of waste water. The indicted for aggravated impairment of the environment are in addition to four of the company 's management positions were part of or belonging to the people.