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Things are always seen as you stand at the moment.
If you are in at 50p then a long way to go.
At 30p still a fair distance.
At 15p getting doable.
At 3p then 15p is a five times multiple.
Can CC make 15p. I think so but it is AIM
A few contracts are current and look to be progressive.
Certainly do need to DYOR though.

Trouble is ITT, how do you value a company. You remember JC wanted it valued on something like contract signing , I suppose with future earnings, leasing from the contract treated as goodwill. Not a bad idea because it sets a standard knowing the earnings will be forthcoming, exception being bad debts which can't be anticipated other than by avoiding dodgy clients in the first place.
DYOR

Surprised first buy is so much more than spread size. On existing contracts once we know we are getting back to normal in my opinion should make 5 to 6p. Any further new contracts could go above that.
DYOR

Nice one Vas.. Bit too soon for graphs I fear.

Interesting Candlestick Pattern, early days.

Not at all ITT.. You made the innuendo supply the evidence.
Looking at Retrofit I have come to the conclusion until we hear further that it is probably another name for refitting Smart meter in place of existing dumb. Retro looking back so replacing current meters.

Hello ITT.. Just had a chance to read through BB. To clarify a point I only know all of the people on this BB by their online
nom de plumes, no knowledge of addresses, only locations when they say 'raining in ....... today' etc. I would not want to know as it serves no purpose. You don't need to keep in with Colour as you have not broken ranks by buying CC as Colour has done so himself in the past but at the same time rubbishing CC, that 's an anomaly.
I have asked CC what they know about Retrofit which has been mentioned in India recently, Colour may know something as he mentioned Retrofit recently (Sat 09:52), I should imagine CC will update me or all of us when available.
DYOR

Hello ITT.. As you have drawn something to my attention I had better relook at it. I am pretty certain that when I read it some time back that GDPR referred to names and addresses in the first instance, not pseudonyms.
Could you reprint what I said, I am pretty sure I have not overstepped the mark but care should be taken.
Colour now says he didn't receive invitation to talk to JC just view the product, so he is invited possibly a long way who knows and probably had his fares paid just to look at a box which he probably knows little about. I would like to see proof and even then would doubt the intention was for JC not to speak to him in the same building.
That is clutching at straws.

Hello ITT.. Well I know you received it because you just said so. So that is angle sorted.
With Colour he has acknowledge it on this BB in the past I am sure without checking in depth.
Is that a satisfactory answer.

Yes ITT, both of you received it and I take it you both declined.
So it just needs Colour to acknowledge the fact and we all move on.
Thanks ITT I hope CC proves fruitful for us.

Not at all, Colour.. Were you or were you not invited to meet JC at Cambridge.
If you were then it is you that is the liar. One call out too far Colour.
Once more for good luck, were you invited to meet JC at Cambridge office or not, simple question YES OR NO.
The answer is YES and you declined. So olive branch offered and snubbed by you.
Your reputation depends on this Colour, YES OR NO. Come on now man up.
I am expecting a waffling answer with more insults thrown around.

Hello Colour, just picked up.
I do not lie, say the truth as I see it at the time based on possibilities.
With you if things are not going your way you resort to insults; signs of low intelligence.
Right you were invited to meet JC at his offices in Cambridge were you not, an olive branch?
Looks the the sells are holding up. So dealers want them.

All, a story, not exactly a parable.
Some years back a company called Ceres caught my eye. I was already committed elsewhere so I spoke to my son, he invested. The company was a spin off of a University project, boiler/Cell. Similar to Cyan they were in early stages of development, which I now know takes ages. I think he bought at about 7p which fell some as funds got eaten up, we discussed it and he averaged down. Years went by and partners created.
Jump to the present, current SP 550p. with Bosch on board and likely to achieve 1000p. The big jump has occurred so not really speculative now.
The punch line is there is no reason for CC not to achieve a similar result.
Keep the faith, LOL.
DYOR

Well JCEP, I tried. Even JC (CEO) offered out an olive branch.
I don't usually deal on AIM but Cyan caught my eye years back.
I normally stay non-committed and just graphs and P/E etc.
In my opinion you have picked a very good moment to enter this share, JC has in the past been trying to hang together a group of contracts but situations kept changing. This is first time we can see these contracts active together with very little secrecy. I feel, although it has been said over the years, it's just a matter of time.
I don't think you need much but good luck.
From an SP position you are not far off of bottom and rising..
DYOR to the others.

Morning Vas.. Could it be that Iraq closed down so no volume news from then on.
Woolley.. The 430,000 restart JVVNL and our recent 600,000 share investor may have had an SP influence.

Well Colour I think JCEP is right. I may be look forward too aggressively and you look backwards too deeply.
We have a few contracts running in various places simultaneously and hopefully will reach 15p by year-end.

Well Colour have you got nothing else to do, previously I said I would only occasionally comment, once or twice a week, as you are so boring. I hope JCEP found this enteraining. I had a chap at work similar to you who knew everything, he argued against everything, so one day during 'orders of the day time' we started a discussion, next day same discussion with reverse direction and he argued the reverse. Of course it was pointed out.
I will leave you to ponder, are we going to succeed in India or not. You may study your previous notes.
DYOR

Wow that's great Colour. Any other time you say you can't prove it but not this time. So once again you flip the coin. The contract has been approved not necessarily for immediate start, but lets hope so, make up your mind, its normally me saying everything is hunky dory.
So now CC is in the running in India after telling us for years it has no chance.
DYOR

Thanks for that LTI, do we know the size of their customer base.
Colour, we already knew the figures that LTI has refined. The question was what will we get and that next 2 years and that we do not know unless contract kicks off now and runs smoothly to time. If it does not you will be the first to let us know.
DYOR everybody or get Colour to do it for you. JCEP whenever SP drops Colour condemns people who previously talked in favour. Now that he has talked in favour I hope your holdings doesn't drop, he will be beside himself.
I should think there is no possibility of that but you never know. He once thought that he had invested wisely.
DYOR

The trouble is jake you are moaning now and don't realise it.
Colour, nobody in the industry knew 'in the box' was going to happen otherwise they would have been highlighting it. You keep saying the India Government is unreliable and stop start. Not many political decisions can be preempted, look at Mumbai, Tata was happy to talk pipeline then nothing. You could say Connode saw the writing on the wall at that time and folded. With a bigger company you would not have even noticed anything until they started advertising their successes.
Vas.. Don't know much about JVVNL but wasn't there a spin off order from elsewhere, well whatever it's pretty big and if it lifts off physically soon I should imagine like Indore they will want to make hay. You never know end dates but there are certainly a few contracts current. It would be nice if JC would give us finance (in the bank) sitrep but not likely.
DYOR

By the way just checking Fridays figures. If JCEP is telling the truth and I no doubt 100% he is.
The buys should have been 1,120,500 hence 3.10p finish.
DYOR