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Government reveals Brexit No Deal Doomsday plans: Ministers admit threats to online and tourist credit card charges, cigarette health warnings ... and a SPERM shortage.

There's enough remain wan kers on here to correct the last issue.

As long as they are in power they wouldn't mind, after all, they've got JC at the moment, couldn't get much worse imo.

"it could take 50 years before we know if it will have been a good idea"

Well it took 40 years to find out that joining was a bad idea

''The point being its is not just lefty pinko remainers and their ilk who say we will be poorer.''

Bring it on, worth every penny and some.

jayfax
''The chances of the EU becoming a federation are zero. 28 countries with advanced military and widely differing governments are not going to hand over control of their countries to an Eu parliament they appoint and delegate a subset of responsibilities for trade and collaboration to,''

Well nearly all of them were suckered into relinquishing their own currencies to further the cause, how they wished they didn't, if only they knew then what they know now.
It's the way the EU operates, as I've said before.....slowly slowly catch a monkey, give it enough time.

I believe that goes for all political parties freya.

The alternative is to be an offshore state of a federal Europe.
Worth the upheaval I'd say wouldn't you jayfax?

I don't know how they've done it but the Swedes have been in denial for years, but it seems the truth is beginning to surface.
For once Newsnight was quite interesting.

Sweden on Newsnight now

No deal appraisals will probably be released slowly over a few weeks for maximum scare tactic effects.
If they are anything like the original project fear we can all take them with a pinch of salt, as has been proved to date.

Wasn't aware of that singe, but Total are just one of many.

Jayfax,.
Trumps sanctions against Iran comes to mind, remember how your mighty EU were going to thwart these sanctions because of the collective power of 28 nations. As I said at the time the US would wield more power that the combined EU which you disagreed with, but hey, to date I guess I've been proved right.
This so called debate ran on a bit and you ended up quoting the known facts of the policy and said what is the problem.
I believe I replied "I despare" which I did, and still do.

You see when you are dead you don't know you are dead, all the pain is felt by others. Its the same when you are stupid.

to anyone responding to a JF post. His brain doesn't always compute a statement that you make. You would need to qualify a statement otherwise you run the risk that he will link the statement to another statement that you have made.

How right you are LTI I've had the same problem, at the end he quotes your original point back at you as if it is his own. As if to say everyone knows that.

Blimey we've neatly reached the dizzy heights of 61p. Whatever next, don't tell me we're leaving the European Union.

Forex trading is doing OK, Eurozone haven't got a clue.
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain has extended its lead in the global currency trading business in the two years since it voted to leave the European Union, in another sign London is likely to continue to be one of the world's top two financial centres even after Brexit.
Leaving the European Union was supposed to deal a crippling blow to London's position in global finance, prompting a mass exodus of jobs and business. But with eight months to go, London has tightened rather than weakened its grip on foreign exchange trading, a Reuters analysis shows.

If we don't keep to EU rules on goods, how will we trade in Europe?

The mighty EU.......how about if the EU don't keep to our rules and standards how will they trade with us?

You seem to think this is all about the EU have you forgotten this is a negotiation between two entities meaning two countries of independent existence.
It's not all about what your beloved EU wants, get real.

I see the Donald is not too happy with the Fed keep raising rates, neither am I as it happens as I'll be going over there soon.

Greek 10 year bonds nearly 4.5% and over 250 billion euros bailout money, o yeah its all honkey dory over there. There's nothing left to flog anything of worth Germany has already bought it all. End of austerity my a r s e.

"Greece just emerged from its EU bailout. It still has huge debts and austerity.. but it has coped. It would have had whatever happened"
Well jayfax by that statement the UK has nothing to fear from leaving the EU so why do you and your ilk persist in so called project fear?
I don't care what it costs this country needs a reality check. All this, who votes to be poorer, completely unfounded.
As you said we'll cope whatever happens if it costs a few bob in readjustment I'll willing pay money well spent, worth every penny. The grandchildren and their children will than us if I'm still around.
Not only will we will cope we will prosper beyond our widest dreams, if we have the right government. But remember this we will be in charge of our own destiny. Have a nice day.

Greece is about to exit its bailout today I believe, that's alright then all's good in the Eurozone, great this single currency ain't it.
I see peeps are already talking about a return to the Drachma. What a wonderful illusion this Eurozone is.