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Just a mild speculation here...

I don't particularly believe this but just throwing it out there...

I wonder if they've released the IGenomeDX part of this RNS at this time because BB/Symms realised that IGenomeDX had potentially released market sensitive information in that email to me?

And that is why BB got so huffy about it?

From what I know of Bill Behnke now, he seems a very guarded and controlling individual..

He gets a bit scared at the thought of publicity and things getting in the public domain that aren't in his control.. maybe justifiably.

Very much like Allan Symms. They don't like informing. Seems not to be in their DNA.

Havenoclue, yes, I basically did that.

Bottom line is I think it's been proven time and time again that shareholders are dirt to them.

I see a vastly different company to that of how some people on here see it.

Not that there isn't potential money to be made, but simply that it won't be don't for the shareholders, if it happens . That's a by-product.

Ps. I decided not to post the genome email on here in August 1) because I really didn't know what to make of it.. what would have been the use of it since Symms and co don't give a toss about shareholders.

2) I'm pretty certain I would have been accused of de-ramping or making it up or something.

I've been trying to do a bit of digging over the last few months...

I keep getting a few snippets like that.. and obviously Mr Behnke (whom I cold called that time when he was in the Cayman isles) doesn't like it.

Hi counting cards et al.

The full email I received on August the 5th is

"Thanks for your email.

We have forwarded your question to Cizzle Bio the owners of this test.

We were just helping with some experiments and not really a part of the clinical undertaking.

Thanks

iGenomeDx"

A few days later I got a curt email from Bill Behnke With no body but just a heading:

"Please stop e-mailing my team"

From BB' email.

Now bearing in mind I have been sending very in frequent emails just asking on progress, nothing else.

I was taken aback a little by the rude nature of that.

It just leaves me with a bad taste that this is a company that does not like shareholders at all, and hates disclosing any information. I think we all know that.

As you say counting cards, it's a fair assessment you comment on. It's basically weather to stick or hold.

Problem is, as shareholders, we are only being given crumbs..so it's all guesswork.

Ciz has now tried two Labs that it claims were going to commercialize the test. Now we're onto the third which is meant to be a bigger faster stronger.

Hard to gauge.. is this approaching commercialization before Christmas? Or will there be other delays and changes?

My main issue with this company - and always has been - is, can you trust what they are actually saying?

The times scales are never met... It's hard to judge the BS from progress.

I'd like them to give a firmer line in the sand. (Although when they did that and stated April that was just totally wrong anyway)

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Ciz. Is this wider laboratory rollout nailed on, or is it more cover for delays , until the next different laboratory is chosen.

What's the name of it and what's the time frame?

Ps I nearly sold when I got that email from IGenomex, because I sniffed more delays. And I was confused by their response which they didn't elaborate on.

Recently I emailed IgenomeDX about launch date snd got this reply:

"We were just helping with some experiments and not really a part of the clinical undertaking.

Thanks,

iGenomeDx"

My initial feelings with this RNS is that they are kicking the can down the road again... How long is a piece of string.. how long is near term?

They seem to be trying different laboratories and moving on to the next one.

It's either a very positive RNS because they have wider expansion aims or they are struggling and covering it in BS.

All the same it means more delays of unknown quantity. Personal I think the share price will suffer with this as time goes on.

Are we now talking weeks, months or even into next year?

It would be perfect if Ciz did a coordinated and sustained launch as Greend suggests..

I've tried to get this in the national press already, but the staff writers these days are puppets who follow the herd.

They won't touch it until it's formally out there and they have to follow some other news agency.

If Ciz were any good at comms and marketing they would have already contacted the health reporters on the nationals..etc..

But since Ciz team are useless at this, between them being crap and the press being crap, I don't hold out much hope for that..

Although it may come later - the national reporters now tend to follow each other and only go for headline grabbing announcements at conferences.

All loads of the things that green suggested sound great. Maybe you should go and work for them Greend😁! Probably do a better job with the marketing .

Ps... And for What it's worth Antelope, I think Ciz Bio are waiting for silly season (Summer dead period) to end and they will launch September/October.

They've got to get this off the ground at some point soon..time is money and events happen. A launch close to Christmas wouldn't be good.

So mid to late September is where I'm putting my flag . Probably soon to be shown to be wrong!

* correction..not "everyone" has over predicted, there's been a few including Widdy and OAPk etc bucked the trend

And Antelope, when you use the phrase "whether it's worth holding to the bitter end." What do you mean by the term "bitter end"? Do you mean forevermore, or just past launch or...

The stage that Ciz is in at the moment is either the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end...

But I'm not sure whereabouts in that it stands!

Oops, date should have read September 2023, not 2024, for Brond's prediction

Antelope, it's a reasonable question..

And to get a good idea of how wrong most people are at predictions, i like looking at past posts - it's informative, interesting and shows how poor predictions are..

So, I started off back in 2023 when you first bought in.. at that point you were asking whether it would take "12 months, 18 months.." well that answer is now 24 months and counting...

There's then a subsequent post on September 22, 2023 about CHINA - remember that country?!

At that point it was during 60 days Ciz said that Chinese development would be Go!

We are now at circa 700 days, with nada.

Brondby, following on the same date , Sept 22, 2024 says : " I'm looking for 20p to 30p in the next year"

Jace and others have repeatedly stated it will be in the ££s.. you only have to look at posts that predict to see how impossible it is

Not posting this to deride anyone etc, just taking a random sample from when you started posting, Antelope.

It just shows that your question is one that no one has got right to this date...

Everyone has way over predicted, and underestimated the time frame.

Thanks Widdy for expanding👍 appreciated.

I think the path here is being stated by the actions themselves.

CizBio US is obtaining a suite of tests. BB states they want to sell to bigger Pharma.

So let's say the sale is for circa $300M (could be more could be less), Ciz UK at 1.5% royalty (post dilution) get approx £4M - measly .

Running parallel to all this is Ciz UK trying to expand into Europe/UK etc. This will take money .

Since CizBio US only expect revenue of $36 million in year 3, Ciz UK (@10% royalty) will inevitably have to have (several) fundraisers.

As stated before, based on the above, I personally don't see Ciz UK share price ever sustaining much above the 6p level. And will long term fall away imo has other tests supersede.

I'm here for the launch . That's it.

Hope springs eternal, Hogbog 🤞😁

Anyone else notice that all his posts have gone (again)..

His last post was something about not being alive by the time the webcast was going ahead.

I read that and wondered if there was something seriously wrong or whether he was just being light-hearted about how long it was taking.

Anyway I can't say that I enjoy his posts, but the lad as obviously got some serious problems, financial and otherwise, and I really hope he's okay.

Widglide, you're a curious character and can't say you've been wrong up to this date - and if you've been reading over the last couple of years will know I'm seriously sceptical of the long-term value of this.

However, I'd love to get inside your psyche.. this is the only share you ever post on, infrequently.

Are you not invested in other things and ,if so, why don't you comment on them?

Why do you still appear on here in it apparently bitter and twisted way..? (Although you may be correct)

But, serious question, are you saying that you don't believe Cizzle now have a product that is close to US launch? Are you saying that you believe the "imminent" launch is BS?

Or are you agreeing that there is a product that will launch but it's just that shareholders won't see much value?

Thanks

Adastra..

I know the business quite well..

I was in at 1p post fundraise, sold , then have had a couple of trades on the dips .

Overall a good turnaround business and they've done well.

But it looks like they've stalled, at least for a few months.

Also a question to ask if you are really into the business.. what is the nature of the loan facility and what are the payback details, and when.

There's a new broker involved and I wonder if there's going to be a fundraiser at some point.

Anyway I'll be staying on the sidelines for a while as this will fall in the vacuum of news.

Adastra..

You've been sounding very desperate over the last two days. The more you bang it the less veracity your posts have.

One lesson in shares, especially small caps, if there's a big rise before news (results) sometimes it's to let people out before bad news.

Even though you were ramping it from the offset yesterday, anyone with any experience could see they are poor results with the revenue.

So much for those (two!) larger buys rolling in Hogbog (and I take it one of them was yours!?)

Looks like the block seller is back in town today

Thanks for reporting back, lovelyboy👍