Mel140813 Oct 2022 17:19
Old guard I haven't heard for many a year.
I do agree with most of you post as I'm but 2 years away from retirement myself which is hard to believe as it's gone so quickly.
Yes the older managers supporting the engineers and had huge experience in helping them move forward within their skill base and if they didn't have the skills to do the job the managers pushed them forward to be trained and in doing so benefited the hole team. I also agree that like you I keep in touch with my old managers and Colleagues that have left the company . I think you could agree with me that you were the last of a Dying Breed that was respected in the role you played.
I also think you will agree that these new managers now have a different role especially over the last 2/3 years for obvious reasons . Most now collect data and do time sheets while patch leads to everything else and many of them have only been on a couple of year so little experience when a problem arises. I watched a 20 year old lady training 4 men and I had to pull her to one side as would not embarrass anyone in front of others to tell her she was giving them wrong information on opening 10 boxes correctly. She had only been on seven months but she took it all in, and I'm sure she will become a great engineer. This is what we are seeing at the moment whi h is not the correct way of being things . Give them time to learn the inside and out and not a few weeks on one thing and away you go.
You put In your post ...
I have experience of TEAM MEMBERS, 43 years as a matter of fact, I was one and ended my career managing them. In my opinion there are some that cruise, some that do the least they can get away with, some that play the system and a FEW that strive to do a days work.
You failed to mention that also applies to management of which we can both say are many in all grades I'm afraid.
Hope you have a great retirement Mel. Atb.