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How did Bernberg came up with 85p figure when they said utter nonsense. Why did they upgrade from 70p to 85p if the outlook is so negative. Bloody idiots say the reports were overly complicated? If the report is simple then they will say not enough detail. Also they say lack of clarity on dividends. When they themselves are saying covid brings uncertainty to cine then how can CINE provide clarity about dividends?

Anyways crux of the matter is just ignore the rating from Bernberg. They don't have a clue why they upgraded it.

It is all about sentiment. Sentiment got beaten when Boris delayed the freedom day. Sentiment will improve once freedom day arrives and big movies will help Cine go up above £1 easily. Just need few good blue days and PIs will jump in to push to £1. It was at 97p just few days before the delay with freedom day. It will be back to 97p.

Now obviously some will not like the above comments so feel free to jump in and attack...

Ash, why the hell you think it is £1 in Q4? Like FI questions everyone what makes you think £1 in Q4? Oh you are a financial adviser? Hmmm so Barclays are dumb in your eyes to say 115p?

"with this and black widow coming shortly after hopefully great profits continue for a good 6 weeks plus
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Bonkers don't get excited about the profits so soon. FI, will remind you with his mojo link to tell you not get excited about any profits yet. We are not allowed to dream and not allowed to comment anything positive on CINE. If you do then you will get a stick from FI ! :-)

Bonkers, can't believe that you again raised the topic of takeover for the 4th day this week!
You do not seem to understand that people have just commented on the prospects of takeover and whether cine is a candidate or not. No one expected takeover to happen this week or day.

It looks like you are the one that got excited about Jordan's takeover comment and ****ed for not happening on Monday and you are having a go on this topic everyday! Don't lose sleep on this topic!

From another board -

Thank you to everyone who signed the petition yesterday...over 500 added since yesterday morning...if not already done so please sign and post the link to social media..thank you x

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/582714

Including RR there are many others that don't move at all despite high volumes.
I think the max FTSE 100 gets to could be 7500 and that is no where within reach for the foreseeable future I guess.

Look at TW., it is just going down and down.
Lloyds retraced from close to 49 to 47

Only BT moved tremendously and that too when a billionaire showed how undervalued BT is.
I think we need an investor like that in RR too to move the price.
Big funds are investing in US market and in the startups that are in green energy sectors I think?

Money could be still sitting on the sidelines. We need a big investor to buy RR to ignite the spark here.

Really depressing to see this not moving at all. I will remember to get out and not be greedy when this hits £1.30 or for that matter even if it hits £1.20 I may sell out and take the loss. Not a good day to me overall.

such a large volume for just a tiny 2p price movement! Bloody don't understand what that trading is about.

Great post Inferno. Fugazi is one such clown who doesn't have a clue and keeps throwing numbers every day. Pressure is building on BoJo and now even Matt Han**** is talking about allowing travel for fully vaccinated people.

Once the hospitalizations numbers and deaths continue to remain low then there is no way sage scientists can ask for restrictions. EU will accept double dosed travellers.

In Q3 this year we could see big jump like last year when vaccine news spiked entire market. Hold tight.

Casapinos, ITP had buyers since the announcement for sale. They are filtering out for the best buyer. In May, they had short listed 2 bidders out of 4. Bain capital is one of them and are certainly interested in buying. I believe the bidding process done to make sure that RR doesn't lose out with the sale. There will be agreements signed so that if bidder wants to back off then they may have to pay any loss incurred by RR with the sale.

Also RR is doing right thing by investing on Electric stuff. Currently ESG is the theme. Banks and funds are investing in the companies that have ESG in their portfolio. RR is doing lot of stuff with Electric aviation. Although 50% revenue is from flying hours but travel looks to be promising as each day goes by.

UK govt faced pressure about increasing capacity in Wembley stadium for EUROs and likewise they will face pressure to open up travel when EU countries are opening up travel. Planning is underway to allow vaccinated people to travel to Amber countries without quarantine.

RR need 66% of 2019 flying hours as the market liked when this was announced and I think RR will see more than that when full year reporting comes out next year.

TUI is already offering test packages and EasyJet too so already lost the opportunity with 2 major airliners and travel is anyway quite restricted. Also airlines need gold standard test, which is PCR but if AVCT can still do a deal with airlines then that would be good. Events and football matches would be a good target too.

Now all depends on how soon AVCT can sign these contracts and how big the contracts will be. Also all these deals need to be good multi million deals otherwise market may not like it. AS took too long time to market the product. But better be late than never. Come on AS get some big deals done.

Thanks SS

Hi SS, did you find out if the losses from trading can be included to reduce the employment tax paid when no profits were made from trading for the year?

I know it is bit cheeky to ask that but just wondering if that is possible :-)

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/20/10percent-to-20percent-correction-may-be-underway-due-to-inflation-mark-zandi.html

Moody's analyst calls 10-20% correction in the market due to inflation but says recovers a year after. It was on CNBC. What do you guys think?
To me, I think it is too much exaggeration. 20% fall is like last year correction due to covid.

Hi SS, do you not have your shares in ISA, which is a tax free?
I see you mentioned that you have 66k shares invested in RR. If these shares are not in ISA and if RR explodes at some point then I hate to see you pay tax on your gains. If possible move your shares to ISA. If they are in SIPP then nothing to worry about tax for now. GL

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-great-hope-restrictions-can-end-early-on-5-july-and-uk-not-in-third-wave-says-vaccinology-expert-12336907

Freedom day could be as early as July 5th. Tomorrow could be a good day in the market including CINE!

You didn't bother to give us any numbers like I did but cheekily said your cinema has more? All in your head and claiming it as facts..what a load of **** you talk about...Atleast tell us your local cinema name and we will see how bright you lot are.

Fyi - I live in country side so 8 shows for single cinema in a day is definitely a lot. F9 every 1hr is sensible in current climate. Don't think I have seen more than 1 screen running same cinema at same time even before covid. My local cinema knows what they are doing unlike yours!

Well, those are equity warrants exercisable at any time in 5 years and don't think they would convert anytime soon as there is little gain in trading them at current levels.

Also compared to AMC, 150M warrant conversion is nothing big...nothing to sweat about.

BOD said Stocken deal is binding due to conditions set earlier! They are cleverly hiding with that binding statement!

Hope that Malaysian investor escalates this issue to global level. How a company can deny an offer that is 4 times above the Stocken offer? Nothing but criminal...

Is this what you are referring to -

"The Bond will carry a coupon of 7.5 per cent. per annum and will be convertible into ordinary shares of the Group. The initial conversion price has been set at $1.7620 per share (which equates to £1.2850 per share based on a USD:GBP FX rate of 0.7293) representing a premium of 25 per cent. above the closing price per Cineworld share on 24 March 2021 (being the last business day prior to the date of this announcement)."

So the conversion price is £1.28!!! That means at some point in future when they want to convert, Mooky had them agreed to pay £1.28 per share! Why did the bond holders agree for such a premium conversion price? In future SP of £1.28 looks cheap. You may say that bond holders don't care about the equity but they could have asked for a price lower than that. After all, cinemas are going to run for next 100yrs!