Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
Just when you think you've seen and heard it all, along comes this, the BOD, staff and anyone actually involved in delivering this project must absolutely despair at the level of idiocy of some of its investors, ( if that's the case!!!) I certainly do.
Sheps8.
I wouldn't go getting your knickers in a twist about Dogstar, I recognize his prose anywhere, he's been banging the same drum many a year now, pure entertainment for him winding you up, he's a seasoned pro in what he invents on the negative (yes some people really are that sad) ;-)
ATB Sheps8.
Myo, your " et al.....and bear in ind given that some relatively irrelevant posts get several thumbs up within two or three minutes of being posted......that multiple identities could well be (indeed are) at play."
Exactly, it didn't pass me by on Sunday in my 'I smell a rat post' that within seconds of the person I was referring to was getting six or seven ticks, on a Sunday over my suspicions of multiple identitys that many people watching the board by the second!!!. I don't think so. ;-)
Sheps8.
KOH, coming from you and your failure to consider that certain events and considerations in the real world and their impact on this company yet choose to lay the blame for your own investment decisions at the door of someone else this is a belter: "It's good to allow a contrarian opinion to your limited unidirectional world from time to time, it broadens the mind." PMSL.
Thanks for the entertainment KOH I think you need that "oxygen" far more than me ;-)
KOH, deflect as much as you like, I SMELL A RAT, there's disgruntled shareholders across the whole share market, then there's the repetition of you and RU and its on another level!!!.
Only a complete plank would continually dis their own investment on that level and I most certainly don't put you in that bracket!!!.
Sheps8.
Sheps8.
Am I the only person that's noticed the person who made the 10:53am and the 11.37am post look very much like one and the same person under different guises!!!!.
Sheps8. I've suspected Mr 10:53 is a opposition company plant for some considerable time now anyway.
Apologies if this has already been posted, after reading a few of yesterday's posts about CF from those who obviously could and would have negated the **** storm that SXX has and is steaming full sail ahead soooo much better than him I just can't be bothered to read any further back.
here's an interesting interview, I've met JT on a couple of occasions and he's top notch.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=mfmzkBiqWpo
Scotty, your 19.00 post, absolutely 100 percent behind that sentiment, a dangerous game Mr OraclePoly4 is playing if genuine and quite irresponsible to boot. :-/
Sheps8
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you WIN.
Sheps8, Just as they have done with every other detractor along the way.
Probably the most factual post I've seen on this board regarding PI's VinInTheBin, we can all speculate on certain individuals on this board, one such poster at 9:26 I'm personally convinced is not a shareholder but a deliberate plant to destabilize, however the crux of your post is 100% I have no doubt.
After yesterdays shenanigans with certain posters on this board, including those who out of the goodness of their hearts actually created a new account to tell us 'The End is Nigh' I like others decided to switch off and continue with the life I've got because nothing written on here was going to influence my decisions about my money, my own thoughts, and the last thing I would ever what to do is try and influence others, if you personally did or are thinking of making a decision based on anything written on these boards by others no matter how respected or disrespected you feel about them then in sorry to say that a fool and his money are easily parted and you fall distinctly into that description.
Seems to me that some people have no morals towards others whatsoever and are no better than the Street con men and women we so regularly read about in the media on the streets of Benidorm and other holiday destinations that con unwary holidaymakers out of their money.
Please be very wary about these boards and best wishes to genuine people out there, make your own decisions and stand by them, very few people are on here for your benefit and have their own interests at heart in every sentence they write.
Sheps8.
Thank you Anna Turley MP for Redcar for pushing our case to Government.
Since I became Mayor we have brought 1,500 acres of land back into public ownership, issued a compulsory purchase order to secure the rest of the site, and have been awarded £137million from government to crack on with the job.
The Government has repeatedly promised that they will cover clean-up costs, and I’ll fight tooth and nail to make sure that they do.
We haven’t yet spent all of the £137million handed to us, so when we need more money from government I’ll be the first one on the train to London to ask for more.
I’m pleased to say jobs are already being created and local workers are already on site cleaning up land and decommissioning the former steelworks to make way for more private investment.
Already we’re seeing the £3.2billion Sirius Minerals project on site, MGT investing £650million on a new power plant, and in the past year we’ve announced a multi-billion pound Clean Gas energy plant and a giant wind turbine facility which will create 600 jobs.
To top it off, thanks to Special Economic Area status we secured last year, we’re going to retain rent and business rates from new investors meaning big business will pay its fair share towards the clean-up costs.
These are long-term projects that will take time to deliver, but we’ve made huge progress in the past two years. Lots done, but so much more to do...
Scotty, forget Dr Cunnion apparently Tom Chadders has had a word with FIFA and theres enough room in Wembly Stadium, so its all sorted ;-)
Sheps8.
RUSirius, "mug punters" I believe you could quite possibly be the biggest of them all!!! Or is it:
For years now all you have ever done is to talk down the company 'your investment' so much so that I have held suspicion that you aren't actually a shareholder or if you are it's insignificant but allows you entry into the AGM!!! to help promote your agenda.
I consider a real "mug punter" someone who only ever try's to put of people from investing in a company they are invested in, question is which one of the two above possibilities are you.?, after all your history here of ****ging Sirius off is very long and strong, it's not the behaviour of a normal investor IMO.
Sheps8.
150 Job vacancies now available with DMC on Sirius Sites.
https://siriusminerals.com/work-with-us/current-vacancies/
Onwards and Downwards ;-)
Sheps8.
Thankyou for you reply to my question, it was your terminology "drift mine" and MOP that made me ask the question, yes indeed there was early days talk of building a tunnel underground from an hillside then sinking the shafts, however a series of events changed the project engineering to a completely different setup of which we should all be grateful for, not least the engineering trials that showed the slurry system via a pipeline across the NYMNP was going to be impractical both from an engineering perspective (blockages at the bottom of the inclines such as the dip under the river ESK and perhaps a bigger obstacle of the requirement of a trench being dug across the NYMNP towards Teesside, I believe the whole project wouldn't exist anymore had it not been for the changes made from back then, indeed my first conversation with Chris Fraser at a public consultation was to question him about the practicality of such a pipeline across the NYMNP and if it would be feasible to lay a pipeline on the sea bed from Whitby to Teesside to negate the idea of digging a trench across one of the most protected environments in the World.
However on your second point about MOP, I'm not sure who told you that was going to be the targeted resource but I distinctly remember questioning CF about the obstacles related to getting permission to build a mine that would be a direct threat to ICL Boulby, his reply was and as I recollect repeatedly at other Public consultations that Polyhalite was the product they we're seeking to mine and they were never going to try and mine MOP.
For all your apparent disappointment this project has evolved into a very different prospect to those early days back in 2011/13 from being a 'pipe dream' forgive the pun to the reality of what is going to be the Worlds biggest fertilizer producer in the most environmentally considerate engineering feat ever anywhere in the world, I for one am extremely proud to be involved in this amazing project for the wellbeing of North East of England's population and the country as a whole, and secondly I have no fear about my own personal investment in SXX, I believe patience will be my virtue financially in years to come.
ATB Sheps8.
Good evening Victoria, could I ask which presentation regarding this was please:
"The Sirius board have been making it up as they go along. The first presentation I went to it was going to be a drift mine and the murate of potash was going to be turned to brine and piped to teeside. Later it became a vertical mine shaft."
I only ask as I too went to the very early presentation's and cannot recollect anything regarding MOP, in fact CF went to great lengths to explain that the mine would not be targeting MOP and Polyhalite was and still is the basis of the whole project.
I'm also at a loss to recollect anything whatsoever relating to a 'drift mine' I'm sure that would have caught my attention being that the target product is some 1400/1600 meters underground, still I suppose I have to give credence to your question mark after your "amount of spoil by 10" comment, at the time it was quoted as excess spoil over and above the calculations as being "Enough to fill Wembly Stadium" that too was subsequently shown to be pure fantasy by those who where (still are) absolutely blinkered to the facts and reality of this mine.
Thanks for the advice about not being too greedy, not sure about the 'too late for many of you' as it depends on each individuals personal circumstances.
Sheps8.
I now consider it to be a far better use of my spare time than watching the merry go round of these boards and some of its less than salubrious characters that suddenly appear when the market is being unfavourable to us PI's.
So to anyone reading this board that's feeling unsettled about the current market machinations I would strongly advise first and foremost you switch off from this and other BB's and do your own research into what you are invested in here, I'm lucky in that I can within a very short journey see the reality of Sirius taking shape and for me it's the sharpest focus of all for my money followed by the wealth of internet resources, these boards should come way down your list of priorities for making judgments on your own money investment decisions, I write this in the hope some of you don't learn the hard way like I did a few years ago.
Sheps8.
Good Morning mjkismgs and welcome to this board, it was interesting reading your post and thoughts on the IPA situation because your thoughts and actions mirrors mine but with a different set of input information, firstly was the reduction in the percentage of support from the IPA that Sirius announced (can't remember which RNS) but it was clear things weren't going to the original engagement plan and secondly and by far the biggest red light to me was our MP Robert Goodwill badgering Teresa May in PM's question time about the Gov Support for this project right in the middle of the Brexit storm that in reality of all things considered was the least appropriate time to be asking our PM about a single PLC issue upon which she would have no actual involvement, that was the point if any that I should have reassessed the size of my investment here, again like you that's my problem, and I have always said on this board that if I decided to sell or reduce my holding on this company I would state my reasons and move on and not as many have done sell then continue to try and undermine or sway others, shame it seems there are many who don't have the integrity to do the same and fill this board with posts that are either blatantly obviously ulterior motive posts to get others to react in a way that would suit their agenda or are bitter and twisted about the decisions they alone made.
This week I once again traveled stopped and took in the enormity, progress and reality of this project at all three construction sites while traveling from Scarborough to Teesside, I know that many people who post on this board when the SP is under pressure as it is now in reality could not be less interested in what is actually happening on the ground because they are here purely to persuade others to take actions that will only benefit themselves, I've been involved with SXX and these boards for many years now and have a reasonable insight into the ebbs and flows of certain types of posters and it's startling just how far away from the reality of what you are actually invested in is removed from the trend of the SP movement at times, I learnt a very expensive mistake a few years ago from acting on the behaviour and posting of people on this board even trusting a most respected at the time poster on here, however I ultimately blame no one but myself, it was a sharp steep learning curve for me that has and will continue to serve me in good stead, I tend to spend far less time reading and avidly watching these boards these days, I was it was consuming a big part of my spare time and reality is we don't have spare time it's all too precious.
I'm currently reading a book called 'FREE CAPITAL' How 12 private investors made millions in the stock market' I would highly recommend it to anyone from many perspectives not least some of the less desirable activities in the world of the stock market from all sides of the spectrum, I now consider it to be a far better use of my spare
Nice to hear from you woolybac, it's was a sad day they damaged the III board beyond recognition and we lost touch with its wide spectrum of opinions and characters, hope you are keeping well.
Sheps8, or should I say Upthepotash from the III board days.