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Cannae both be wrong. Law of Averages etc lol.

Said the exact same in previous posts now Dusty.

The argument / thoughts however were that it would be more likely that large scale plants would at some time be the norm.

I'm of the opposite opinion, I expect that eventually sites will be smaller and more local, with any Hydrogen being produced (if that's the output option) being used to fuel / power collection vehicles etc.

Jeez Divvy.

5.7m t between them. That will just be the start? Them law suits have a habit of spreading to everyone and anyone in the same boat "where there's blame there's a claim"

That's why there's in my view room for plenty of solutions to the plastic waste problem. Be cool bit of pr if first load of fuel for phe switch on was a load of coke/Pepsi bottles

Yup Dusty bang on.

Phe on successful testing etc will need to give the customer what they want

If that's 1t 2t 5t 10t or 40t then so be it. All being well they will be able to demonstrate the benefits of their 2.5t pilot model at the test centre, and that shall be the catalyst for business growth.

Not everyone will be looking at mammoth plants with 40t kilns capacity I'd imagine, If phe can however get involved in projects at that scale then that's fine. If however they end up at smaller sites only then that would be fine also in my eyes.

Horses for Courses and all that. I do like my analogies 😂

That's another fair and believable outcome red, I'd agree with 99%

As posted earlier I also think smaller could well the road to success and talk of 40t models nothing more than talk.

Testing will as you say throw up some sort of numbers that are part of the basis to anyone thinking about the phe model as a potential comustomer, but the 1% bit is that it will be the customer that be faces with operating costs so they alone will need to decide if it works for them or not simply based on cost to run v revenues generated

Glad you think it was a clever comment red, was not supposed to be clever, simply highlighting no one will have total market domination.

Try telling the 1st model T owner their car was not niche whilst most others trotted by on their horse.

No need for another analogy, folk will either agree or disagree with my thoughts. There's room for phe and their tech, or the world is too small for anything other than the status qou.

That be a good choice for the opening ceremony whilst I'm at it. Rockin all over The World.

To save you the effort, as you no doubt try and out smarten me with a retort. Down Down Deeper and Down will be nothing more than an uncomfortable memory of the sp once things progress further towards that 12p😀

That makes sense to me Dusty and could well be a future route the business takes, not everywhere will be looking to get through 40t/day. Who's to say in the future we do indeed see smaller plants where waste fuel is from the locality, and possibly hydrogen is infact the chosen end product for powering local public transport etc.

There's lots of possibilities, world hopefully has a long time left so I'm thinking there's a few options for phe and their tech.

Fair comment Patx, get what you are saying completely.

As for phe being No1, that would be some achievement. I'm not concerned with being No1, or even in the top 10. As long as they make the charts, and have a market / customer base that will provide them with revenues that make them profitable and with plenty scope for growth.

Correct 15, each to their own. Offcourse there's things to prove / overcome etc. But I'm content at this time still, would like a higher sp, but overall there's still much to potentially realise a higher sp, which is what all holders want.

Possibly the sane questions Henry Ford faced 😂

😂 Forgot about that Dusty. I submit.

Hi 15, I'm not so sure.

My view is that it was a supported/ticked up by others post that was immplying that phe had no chance of success, if a company with the financial clout, size and resources of AP gave up, then failure was a certainty.

As we now seemed to have moved away from up scaling being almost beyond possible following various posts about others failures/success.

The kiln weld quality

The Bridgend Concrete / Civils

And a number of other topics, we now seem to be firmly in the "phe are not the only ones" kinda posts.

My view on this, it's a big world, more than enough room for more than one option in supplying/servicing/installing waste plastic to energy tech.

Remember when Ford produced the first mass produced, affordable, production line car in the Model T 100 years ago and more.

Last time I looked the roads were full of not just Ford's, I expect the same opportunities for a successful phe/ tech.

I'd be happy for anyone to give a reason why they can't.

Hi red. I'd disagree a bit but that's fine.

Not sure I've ever actually said it will be simple, but I do think it's not the scientific breakthrough needed that some folks posts would make you believe. (air products failure etc)

My everyman and his dog quip is obviously a flippant response to those that made the same claims, whilst we now are having posts declaring more and more companies involved with pyrolysis, and at a large scale.

Well said Divvy.

As Milliband & Co decimate uk oil & gas, steel industry and increase costs to business and the public with their net zero crap, the only folk rubbing there hands will be those from around the globe as they despatch by ship the next load of steel, oil, lpg etc etc.

Be the only country in the world where everyone is supplied by energy from free wind power, but still faced with the highest electricity costs.

No doubt they'll reduce this drastically claiming a green net zero victory, whilst raising income tax to 25% along with the next N.I contribution increase.

Haha Dusty. What time is it

Whatever it says, put it forward an hour. "do the maths" 😜

Hi red, even 2 or 3 is something when you consider there were numerous posts alluding to the fact that scale up was something unheard of, tried and failed by many, and at a cost of millions upon millions of pounds which phe would not have.

Now it appears the process is not the pie on the sky unicorn that some would have you believe based on their endless negativity and scorn poured.

Anyone now coming on here stating "I never said that" in my view is as false as a Turkey Rolex.

Myself and others I'm sure will already have made their minds up on what is genuine debate, and what is nothing more than scare mongering in an attempt to hopefully cause a sp drop, or baseless hurrah hurrah to hopefully help sp rise.

Lol, no need 15, I've already got the alarm set.

Good luck.

Lol, that sounds like unique to me 15😁

Correct, whites selling is as yet totally unsubstantiated, could well be true, but could just as easily be false.

Hi 15, don't feel singled out. I'm only stating what has been said by a number of posters. Correct, I have used some of your posts as the basis for my own confused. Com post, but as I say I'm not attempting to single you out and there are a number of folk sharing similar.

Everyman and his dog is perhaps a slight misleading comment from me, but over recent weeks I've lost count of the amount of posts declaring someone else is already doing what phe hope to do, and at a scale which some have questioned as being possible / achievable.

Regardless, phe have patents for UK and Europe, whatever the others are doing, there must be something unique going on at Bridgend HQ.