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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-53396057

I just saw this on the BBC site and my God its gut wrenching. Rats feeding of what looks like blood.
Is the world going to sit by and watch this happen? Where is foreign aid when these people need it?

This isnt about GDR, its just plain disturbing to view those pictures.

I was reading the other night about how India are doing group tests because they dont have tests / too costly and time consuming to test, basically this means that a whole apartment complex or a large group of people would have their samples put together into one test and if it comes out positive then they lock down the whole group.

Grim

I knew you would come round eventually lol

Grim

Let me put it another way,

Have you tested it yourself? no is probably the answer :-)
CE Mark - Seems even the ****ty tests have those so lets be frank, its been irrelevant so far that weve had CE so for me it doesn't mean anything much.

Testing is important, nobody goes off the spec sheet, if they did we wouldn't need to go through ICMR or EUA.

ICMR is an independent org who will validate if our test meets the spec of a third world country. Given their desperation for tests and how badly covid is developing there, their approval rate is very strict. If we pass this ICMR validation its a big positive for GDR.

Is there evidence a short was open on ODX?

43% success rate is NOT high.

Lets not be too confident eh, just because India are desperately in need of tests doesnt mean they accept any old shiit
But if we get into this ICMR validated club, it speaks volumes about our test.

Looks like there is hope for us still.

Where is PlantPower when we need him?

So we have a test which is competitively priced against UK market leader NCYT.
Its a better test
Works on 3rd party machine with software tool

I guess this just reinforces what we know already, the rest is good. Are GDR capable of selling it.

Grim et al

So we are roughly the same price as NCYT it seems give or take 40 odd quids @ £9 a test for us

60% is a huge margin, does that mean we make 60% or does it mean there is 60% to be made between GDR and final seller?

Retireby40

I didnt disagree with you pal, not at all

I wrote 2 conclusions, one is with vaccine
and the second its at the discretion of the gov and ill add on individual too in this post whether they value antibodies.

You cant say that they are useless if people want to take these tests or the government wants to do a census to check who doesnt and who does have antibodies.

So in my mind, if the vaccine works it compliments the antibody test or vice versa.
If it doesnt, its up in the air how they decide to use these tests.

Retireby40

Great post, i had not thought of that.

So basically it looks like the Antibody tests work better with a vaccine than without a vaccine, and they may well need some tinkering along the way to measure the antibodies that the vaccine provides.

And if there is no vaccine then Antibody tests may be useful but its at the discretion of how the gov's value immunity passports.

In defence of LP

I have seen his comms with Walbrook and even i was surprised by his tone of words.
He is very much on the side of the investor and was asking VERY tough questions of Paul.

feck sake Grim

The Ramp brigade have been talking this share up to the moon for months and they dont know the price of their competitors test LOL this is hilarious.

p.s Youre not in the ramp crew

Swooped,

Perhaps i didnt make it clear in my OP. The question to ask yourself is.

What value does an antibody test provide with no vaccine? You have to do the test within 3 months of an infection to pick up antibodies, and then what? go out, and do one again in a few months? at your personal cost.

With a vaccine the antibody tests are required more is my train of thought, because you would need to do one first pre vaccine, another one towards the end of the 7 months, other at risk groups more, another if at 7 months you still have antibodies. This is my eyes is guaranteed work, guaranteed tests because its part of the vaccine strategy. And maybe even another test post vaccine to show antibodies are there.

Simon,

I think you have missed the point of my article, and in keeping with the debate....

I actually think the antibody test is more valuable with a vaccine, please see my scenarios and answers.

Doesn't anybody here know the price of the NCYT test?

Technick

Are you counting retail value or 8-10 minus 60%?

This is NOT an endorsement to buy into ODX. Please DYOR. These stocks are volatile and sentiment is the main driver behind +/- , they are high risk in my eyes.

I found this article today and i wanted to run it past you folks on here for your open and honest views, yes even the derampers are invited. Please keep it civil and respect each others views.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/no-guarantee-coronavirus-vaccine-will-last-lifetime-antibodies/

I've found myself wondering about my covid investments when/if a vaccine arrives. What it means for the SP etc etc.

So here are my thoughts. At this point im assuming you have read the article above, if not please read it first before you post.
If scientists and the vaccine developers are saying that they dont know how long the antibodies will last post vaccine, and yes the Oxford people also said that, and so did the Astra Zeneca CEO, they felt best case 7-12 months.

Im guessing 'at this point' its beyond any reasonable doubt that antibodies will not last forever as things stand. So what does this mean for us?

1) With vaccines in short supply when they roll out, if we have antibodies from a past infection, and as the article suggests, those who had got it bad will have more antibodies than what the vaccine could give them, why would they want to vaccinate you in those circumstances and how can they check? My answer Antibody test

2) If they provide us with a vaccine passport, how would we know when our antibodies are running out and we need a new booster? My answer Antibody test

3) At risk people who 'may' lose their antibodies quicker than most (maybe BAME or ill people) how would they know if they need of a booster? My answer Antibody test

4) If somebody goes to the doctor with Covid like symptoms, how can they rule out its not Covid?
My answer Covid test, remember its not going to be eradicated with a vaccine, or possibly a combination of both Covid and Antibody test. If you have antibodies, you cant have Covid.

5) With some countries now requesting a Covid test 3 days prior to travel to minimise the risk, could the same be the case for antibodies, if you have them you show a test result or vaccine passport.

6) Once the vaccine has rolled out, would that mean that once we approach the 7 month limit based on Oxford / Asz feedback that automatically we would need an antibody test? My answer is yes, maybe even 2 tests closer to the 7-12 month window. Especially if they dont want to vaccinate you when you have antibodies.

These are just some scenarios ive picked out, and i see it two ways. Pre vaccine and to a larger extent even a year or so post vaccine, testing for covid is there and will be needed for everyone. Once the vaccine is in full flow, antibody testing will remain with us. But not in the guise we see them now, i would expect we would see 2nd gen tests which show how many antibodies you have in your system.

Can we open a constructive dialogue please and someone share why we wouldnt need antibody tests going forwards? I am trying to learn and please lets not try to make this ab

I was thinking about this last night and thought two things will happen today,

Either a drop or a blue day (yeah no kidding i hear you think)

1) But given CK's track record, every time he speaks the SP drops 10%, is it safer to pull out now and buy back in post presentation if he's talking sense?

2) Or it goes up with FOMO

Looks like its 1 then

Good article

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/no-guarantee-coronavirus-vaccine-will-last-lifetime-antibodies/

Solicited adverse events that occurred in more than half the participants included fatigue, chills, headache, myalgia, and pain at the injection site. Systemic adverse events were more common after the second vaccination, particularly with the highest dose, and three participants (21%) in the 250-µg dose group reported one or more severe adverse events.