RE: Faith15 Mar 2024 22:56
Damion good evening, why do believe that 400 million is a silly comment. What do you base that on?
Are you saying that 400 million is not possible?
Phase lb is important and will give a good indication in Psoriasis.
Tim and Co very likely to have ball park figures.
Figures at end of preclinical
Figures at end of phase 1a
Figures at end of phase 1b
Or do do you believe that Tim and Co have no idea at all?
On going discussions have been going on since year dot with Sareum with interested parties.
From these informal discussions as to financial worth of SDC1801 ball park figures will be bandied about.
However, we will never be privy to these informal discussions as to who it is or how much these ball park figures are.
Take my comparison with Deucravacitinib.
4 billion up front. Later stage of course, No significant adverse effect with regards to safety and with regards to efficacy good but not outstanding with regards to PAS175 score. This was over a 16 week period and the general consensus we are looking at inhibitors that can at least equal or better the PAS175 score in a 12 week period. One or two aiming at PASI190.
Interestingly one is a Tyk2 Jak2 inhibitor!
Strange that Tyk2 should have the benefits of Tyk2 with out the adverse effects although we do know, well most of us that TYk2 interacts with Jak2.
There are later generation jak inhibitors which are way more selective than early Jak inhibitors.
There have been inhibitors with Tyk2 Jak1 jak2and Jak 3. Call it broad spectrum. They will work to an extent. They will also have off target ie adverse effects. Different diseases require differing amounts of Jak1 Jak2 Jak3 and Tyk2.
With Deucravacitinib the first Tyk2 inhibitor promising excellent safety and a mechanism ie the Allosteric route that was portrayed as the bees knees, mutts nut or dogs danglies, whatever term you like to use.
It has not been that. UC for example is better controlled with Jak1 and Jak3 in this indication.
With Jak inhibition you are looking at controlling the bodies immune system.
If it is broad based ie not overly selective it will adjust the immune system to the parts that need adjusting through whichever STAT pathway but also adjust bits they do not need adjusting with of course referred to off target effects.
There will always be good compounds , first in class compounds but never ever in a million years a compound that will treat every indication with absolute safety.
Deucravacitinib on my opinion over priced. It was deemed to have excellent safety profile, it does.
However, when recieved NDA approval for an indication and then follows commercialisation basically putting it into every conceivable auto immune condition that can starting with biggest buck market ot has not done what it says on the side of the tin so as to speak.
1801 will be very good in some Indications and not so good in others, that is the nature of the beast.