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morning T. absolutely no offense taken. I applied your each timetechnique yesterday 6 times through the afternoon, with differences between buy and sell prices betwwwn 8 and 16p, I did these trades between the prices of 1594 and 1633 a rise of 38.8p. By my multiple trading I acheived 76p gain. This was a kind of micro application of your spike/shake system, I am guessing here but I assume you usually make maybe 2 buy and sell trades (i.e. 4 transactions) a day on OCDO.
Good luck today. I am setting an limit buy to try to buy ocdo at 1318 but don't hold out much hope
I refer you to my msg at 17.16 for details of my trades today. At the close yesterday I only had my original 250 fevr. Previously I had bought 1000 shares at about 1600, then during the day, did 2 or 3 trades with them and stupidity sold the 1000 at about 16.27 and I didn't have time to buy them back before the close. As already explained in msgs, the 1000 and 250 were in different accounts. This morning my worst fear was realised when they started to rise. I nearly bought in at 1520, then 1540, finally buying 1000 at 1558? THESE I STILL HAVE. Then when the price was around 1600 (as I wrote at the time) I noticed the chance to make on the 1600 transition. So I bought ANOTHER 1000, So then I had 2250 (see earlier MSG's). It's this 2nd 1000 that I used to sell and buy 6 times so now, wed eve, I still have 2250.
I agree with your points in your message except regarding only holding one share. I am happy to disagree, we have different philosophies.
Owls, years agowhen I first started trading I was using the newspaper lists from the previous closing and I made a little headway and then I discovered CEEFAX, wow that was great, if rather slow to use and of course 15m behind real time, but I made more progress then but only really looked at it a few times a day and most days, not at all. I had a full time job and was sometimes abroad as well. I guess it was the advent of the internet and then google early finance data, charts and lists that I really liked, I think they are not so useful now. Point I suppose I am trying to make is that to make decisions on only the open and closing prices is OK for long term holds but a quick series of rises followed by a fall is not seen in the closing price. Yes, it takes time often boring to be watching prices all the time and I used to use LIMITs a lot and study the charts in the evening and set LIMITs up for the next day. I still do this when I want time off.
Ha! Having said all that, a few of my long term holdings I couldn't even tell you the price today or the price I bought at!
My list of action/what to look out for for tomorrow has notes next to 8 shares. My new years resolution is to reduce the ridiculas number that I am trading (some of the badly) has made me decide to not rebuy PLUS for the time being. Even though it is non stampy. Also WJG goes ex divi tomorrow so I will soon come out of that one too and try not to rebuy. Another non stampy but not volatile enough for me. I will continue with FEVR as I feel on a bit of a roll at the moment.
Excuse me but I may not go back into OCDO (I am currently completely out) unless an outstanding opportunity presents.
Rest easy T, I like your method, it works for me, most of it I have done here and there over the years but not in a rigorous way. OK, even a monkey could have made money on a riser like FEVR today but the method doubled the gain, what is there not to like, except, as OWLS says, extra work.
How long have you been doing this system and, with your fondness for the numbers, have you determined the gain from playing the spikes and shakes as opposed to just waiting for an overall trend gain? Also, may I ask, which market trader are you using, I'm guessing HL?
I look forward to tomorrows briefing. I have a little family emergency occuring which may take me away from screens tomorrow.
In vindication of your sytem, my 6 buys and 6 sells of you know which share, netted me a 77.5p gain, at the same time as my equivalent holding which just sat there netted a 38.8p gain over the same overall range. That's about double but quite a lot of "work". The range was from 1594 to 1633. I could have done a 7th deal,having bought after the 6th at 1622 (indeed I was offered 1633) but wanted to have lots of shares for the morning. The last 3 trades I managed to use your compounding and finally hold 1015. The deals were 1000,1000,1000,1001,1005,1011,1015.
I could have done better on the earlier deals as I sort of acted too quickly and didn't optimise the buy and sell prices. The later deals I managed to get much near the ideal prices. But hey, TWICE the profit of doing nothing. Thank you for sharing your system.
Yes, TLW down 6.4%, SAga down 5.6%, TUI down 5.5%, RENE up 6.5% but I don't care! because rule 8.
If one bought OCDO in first 2 mins at 1323 this morning, then sold at 1355, not too bad a turn, then one might be buying again now at 1335. Some big IFs here. I think I for one am in denial about the current bottom of the trading range.
It's just not happening for OCDO at the moment. Yes TLW down 6.5% today, should I be worried? I think I am taking it too well, Too much caffeine I think. My IG graph at 1 sec resolution, shows ocdo going down to 12322.5 at 8.02 then climbing to 1340 by 8.10. There was an ungly looking dip in the fevr price to below 1600 5mins ago.
bought back in at 1607.95, this time I use all the funds from previous sale and have now bought 1001, If I get stuck with them I can always "clean a big big carpet for less than half a crown" (do you remember that or are you too young?
Hoping to sell at 1625 this time, currently at 1616 so that would be +£80ish.
Think there will only be limited profit takers at the close, I certainly want to still have a presence but with only 1025 shares instead of current 2025 shares. Think it will be established at 1630 or so by 15m before close today.
definate resistance at 1600-1605, just got an offer to sell at a shade over 1612, which would have been +100£ on latest turn but I didn't accept, still looking for 1617. Pit as, if I had accepted, I could have bought back in at 1600.
I think there is profit taking going on of course but it seems to be equally balanced by the buyers.....smacks of automatic trading but if thats the case and the machines think its worth 1600, then so do I, I current hold 2025, original 225, 1000 at 1558 and latest 1000 at 1602. ALERT just went at 1613,............................. so i have sold again. Bum, too cheap, they have moved up further , still another £100 profit. Want to buy back now, but at what price? I would be happy below 1610
just bought fevr again, this time at 1602. Would do your componding methos of buying more shares each time I do the trade but simply dont seem to have time to type the amount in, easier/ quicker to buy 1000 each time.
on the downside, my PLUS have drifted down to 912. WJG is starting to worry me but I stand by my earlier prediction (or slightly lower). I might be buying back into HUR soon. Still ignoring TLW, it seems fixed on -4.5%, could be a buy. OCDO seems to be very firm at 1350, so am mentally raising my buy threshold. 1330 is looking a bargain now, ALERT fevr buy at 1606, must go
If you mean FEVR, its 1600 and I already have bought at 1600.5005
I feel safe, even from another serious dip on the share price, but will sell these extra ones when my sell alewrt goes off at 1615 but am watching closely and might sell at 1610 if it struggles. Note here the beauty of a non stampy share
talking about quick in and out, aware of a psychological barrier at 1600, which had been tested 3 times, I bought more FEVR at 1594 and just sold when finally 1600 was properly broken and sold at 1609, for about £150 profit.