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Bazzaman: It might or might not have gone up 8% - Its quite possible it will open lower at 14.25p-14.5p tomorrow that is true...- it depends on order book. But it does not matter, 15p , 14.25p, 14.5p - makes no odds - as all those prices are bargains compared to the 17p...

So really you're haggling over nothing..... Breaking 17p is all that counts.. If it breaks 17p we will know we're on our way...

DireCons: If you think about it if those clever clogs wanted 10% on the open market - even now the share price would shoot miles past 17p before they got that 10%..... I mean its gone up 8% on a tiny fraction of 1% - imagine what would happen if people wanted to buy 10%??

I can see this slowly edging up to 25p by October (as we start to see more and more cosmetics in the shops with Zenakine as a key ingredient).

The principle stays the same. 15p is miles under the 17p paid by clever city investors who actually put quite a lot of cash down in the recent float. If they thought 17p was good, then its over 50:50 (in my view) that 15p and 16p is even better.....

Its not rocket science..

The "bigger picture" obviously is the market does not know how well Croda and or Estee Lauder (and other Cosmetic companies) are doing with Zenakine. Its very early days. Not a single cosmetic is in the shops...

"if" you think Zenakine is brilliant this it the time to invest, while every investor is fighting and depressed..... Things can only get better from here (if the Zenakine story is good). We will know LOADS more in October/Nov/Dec when it will be in the shops (touchwood).

Worth noting the recent float price was 17p..... (and people paid a shed load to get hold of these shares)...

Its now about 14p to buy..........

One assumes that could be a bargain price based on lack on information on Zenakine sales and clear obvious money coming in from these sales. If one also assumes that sales and money are good we should see a very strong recovery indeed - but could be as late as OCT or NOV for concrete information...

If Croda do offer a "low ball" take-over offer - it will have to be higher than 17p (the recent float)...

So I'm going for something between 18p (higher than 17p float) and 25p (no higher than the max zenakine happiness)...

So about 21.50p

Does not sound likely?

Generally speaking you are meant to sell on the arrival of expected good news and buy on the arrival of unexpected good news. However shares rarely react the way I expect.

This being said, another good buying opportunity is in the middle of no mans land - when price has been drifting down waiting for news. So is we get no news and the drift continues this might be around 9p or 10p....

It might not get to 9p 10p of course - but it has to be at least 50:50 that it will....

No news is really expected for a couple of months.....

I wonder, when Estee Lauder report will they mention a recovery based on next gen Skin Brain Barrier cosmetics..... Possibly even mentioning Zenakine itself (as per Croda).

If you look at the 5 year graph of Estee Lauder it does appear to have bottomed and possibly it could be on the road to recovery based on new cosmetics coming through... Possibly Zenakine...

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/EL:NYSE?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwig9pLNmpSPAxWoW0EAHeuVCw0Q3ecFegQIOBAb&window=5Y

Delulu is a k-pop word and k-pop has 2 billion followers. K-pop also have their own cosmetics - k-beauty (in Superdrug)..... Zenakine is aimed at k-popper's (eg clinical trial was done in Korea)

I think the bulls are right.... (I just thought I'd try out the new word)

I guess generally speaking you are meant to sell on the arrival expected good news and buy on the arrival of unexpected good news. However shares rarely react the way I expect.

The article in in her linkedIn account:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/seryeong-choi-8619b7124/

I guess the world leader in research (says Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromonitor_International

Three days ago one of their specialist writes wrote this and included Zenakine:

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7361288321139961856/

Phew.

If Manprit sells does he still have to report the sale since he was a director?

If so, the fact that he has not sold, is good news.

Raytheg: I disagree. This share price is primary about royalties from Zenakine. It goes up on hope, goes down when figures are not released or new share floations. As soon a we have REAL RNS Zenakine accounts figures and if they are good (as hoped) this will go up multiple times....

I know the broker said 29p - well that might be base camp but I'm expecting a good run to 60s and then if continues in 2027, over £1 a share.... Perhaps a lot higher..... I've no idea about 2028 - too far away but I'm hoping for 29p by year end, 60s during 2026, and over £1 in 2027 (all provided Zenakine is a blockbuster and we get 10%+)

This board ruined (in this order)

1. so many adverts the LSE messaging application does not load well

2. LSE refusing to deal with Hums spam posts

3. silly argument between posters

4. The share price going down

If any of the four get reversed the vide would be so much better.

Anyone of the lurkers out there brave enough to have an opinion on where this cash might have ome from?

I do remember in a previous announcement from the CEO that he expected to be "cash positive" without fund raise..... And that seems to be the case...

But where did the £600,000 come from?

Some clearly must be royalties from zenakine (we must have had some cash) but how much? Surely not as much as £600K?

Anyone have a view?

Thanks...