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FFS do people read the other posts before spouting their drivel?
However - Arbitrage Opportunities????
Now that's made my ears prick up. Arbitrage is something I was into a decade or more ago on sports. Was easy free cash at the time, but much more difficult in the UK these days. How would that work with Aviva please Eurofox.
That's impressive maths DK.
wan k
Porsche
What a **** of an index that DJIA is. Down 6% this year. What a capital destructive pile of ****. You'd be better off stuffing your mattress with your cash.
I love your posts though. Make me appreciate what i have.
Hi Casapinos
While I wouldn't ever say they are committing to it, the dividend growth plan is "low to mid single digits". Return of 5.6- 5.9 billion over (sorry can't remember but 1 think 5 years). Again from memory 5% uplift per year took the total to something close to the 5.9B (feel free to correct me it's quite a while since i read the numbers & a lot has happened since).
I wouldn't wan to quibble, but I think that a little under 8% on £2.45 (think you got August 21 dividend wrong by a penny). But still good enough.
Who is brave enough to buy?
Yeah, bang on with 13.27p. Haven't we known that since last August? I'd have been surprised if it was anything different.
I'll fall off my bike if it hits 2.90 today. But first I'll go out and buy one. I'd be happy for it not to lose anything. Gotta be realistic these days.
Hi 'spoons.
I believe that the reason this blue chip has done so badly on a 5 year basis is because the majority of the board don't know what they are doing and need replacing. Specifically the CEO & F f'king D (spineless #!#!). That's Jope & Pitkethly for the avoidance of doubt. Grr.
13.27p
Just looking for a chink of light.
The way I see it is that either we come though it, be it in a month a year or 5 years or we don't & the whole world is ****ed so none of this matters.
Just looking for the bottom......(not something i ever thought i'd say:) )
Frankly, it bothers me that so many people are investing their (hard earned?) money in shares yet simply do not understand what they have and what it is worth.
Anyone who expected to suddenly be significantly wealthier overnight bar exceptional results is at best delusional and at worst plain stupid. I'd personally question your capability to make informed investment decisions.
For me, in 2022 IF everything pans out as expected, I'll have 25% less invested, but will receive 7% additional income. There is no sack of cash for nothing.
I wonder who will cause the most damage to our share price today?
Vlad
or
Emma.
Have I missed something? Did the Russians invade Norwich this morning?
Am I surrounded by idiots??
OWLS No - I have no maths qualification - but this doesn't qualify as maths - it's basic arithmetic. Do you have any comprehension of anything?
Compound - I never said that in year 1 i would have to give up 4% of my holding - that's just silly, and the 0.25% you said is close enough. I only said that after 25 years my investment would be all gone.
& Clued - 25 years might be enough for you, but it's not for me.
However, keep increasing your dividend by 1% & inflation by 5% & . oh. look - year 2 = approx 0.5% of holding needs selling.
& year 3 circa 1%. etc. etc. Does no one else know about the miracle of compound interest?
Like I said the point comes where the point of holding this share is lost as SP increases, Yield falls.
Anyway I'm going cruising right now. Maybe you'll have worked it out by the time I'm back.
ffs.
(Sigh)
If inflation outpaces the Dividend increase by 4% each year and I have to sell shares to maintain my income then after approx 25 years I'd have nothing left to sell, even if the SP increases with inflation. Do the maths.
At 1% increase how many years does this remain a dividend stock when plenty of others (AV & LGEN that I also hold) can increase by 5%. Then the SP gets hammered again.
But, times are good here right now, so lets ride the wave.
Yes he is.
Good that you can see that you are wrong & not bothering to argue.
If you are holding shares for the income they provide then of course the dividend paid is one of the most important metrics.
*##* tax efficiency, *##* the proportion of the company owned (0.0000005%) lol. If you have to sell your assets to pay your bills then the day will come that the assets run out.
Like I said - I don't have enough of these for it to matter to me, but some will.
Don't be dumb rylidan. The cash in my pocket in the next year will be 1% more than in the last. FACT. That will buy less than it did last year.
I'm not saying that the return is not better than most others. What I'm saying is that this is an income stock. Many people hold it for the income it provides.
A buy back does not but cash in my pocket unless I choose to cannibalize my holding.
I don't have a massive holding of these. I'd be lucky if the dividend increase would buy 10 ciggies per quarter.
Here we go again - another company with a buyback program.
Is that the best use of cash when:
1 Debt - while falling is still massive.
2 inflation 5% and rising, but div increase only 1%. So that's a real terms cut.
Watching for the drop in the morning whatever the news. Good opportunity to top up?