Member Info for monkeys

Correction
RE: Can anyone explainToday 12:16Styd,
1. It is rarely matched as majority of the trades are AT trades. For example a trader A wants to sell 200,00 shares
ADVERTISEMENT

in the open market at £2.00, he will not put 300,000 as it will drive the price down. He will lets say, do trades of 4000s and 10,000, he has 2 options, he can place 4000 on the offer side of the order book repeatedly till he gets filled (as 'bots' and will appear as Buys)or he can sell into the bid till he gets filled )will appear as SELL

Styd,
1. It is rarely matched as majority of the trades are AT trades. For example a trader A wants to sell 200,00 shares in the open market at £2.00, he will not put 300,000 as it will drive the price down. He will lets say, do trades of 4000s and 10,000, he has 2 options, he can place 4000 on the offer side of the order book repeatedly till he gets filled (as 'bots' and will appear as Buys)or he can sell into the bid till he gets filled )will appear as Buys). In reality he will do different quantities and if he place 4,000 on offer (will show as a buy on trades)and someone buys 10,000 on a £2.00 limit order, they will get 4,000 filled off bid if traders sells (appear as Sell) and the rest will appear on the offer (if he gets filled will appear as Buy). If The trader say sells 10,000 limit at £2.00 will sell on the order book by taking off the remaining 6,000 (Sell)and his 4,000 (when someone buying off him will appear as a Buy)left will appear on bid and so on.....
UT is just an order matching process.
Black is just a colour indicating trades at the offer price (buy).
Unknown is maybe a mid price so system is unsure, remember all the Buys / Sells are indicative and uses bid and offer to determine it (if near bid will appear as Sell and if near offer will appear as Sell)
Sometimes a big O trade will then be slowly put through the market as AT.
Most people just do not understand and concoct basic idea of buy/sell by what they see as Trades, a bit of knowledge can be......
Hope you understand.....take time to absorb.
A good investor/trader takes both bullish and bearish opions, especially the correct ones rather that what they want to hear. Be flexible a bear and turn bullish and vice versa as circumstances/market is ever evolving
Good luck....coffee time for me

buys vs sells...

I have touched on it it before but no-one appears to notice.
Most of the trades are AT and a few large O, sometimes O will get converted to AT trades.
Can buy from 'offer' or go on 'bid' to buy, Large orders will be taken on both sides of the order book as repeated/bots if they use limited orders. If ther get filled, it appears as a sell and buy if it they take the offer price.
Buys and sells are mere indication on whether it is bid or offers being taken.

Shorters tend to be far more agile and disciplined and aware, being traders and generally more experienced. Risk vs reward. Traders are are happy to go long too.

Disappointed in it's inability to maintain price, set it to be sold in UT

How no one one is commenting on buy/sell volume on a strong day.
Best thing is to understand how orders can be fed into the market, buy sells are only trades from the bid offer and not gives little on what is happening, unless a quiet institutional day. Anyone with access to order book can buy off offer or place a bid to get filled. There is also the case of accumulating/fill a buy or sell large order.

Changed rating to neutral based on valuation

Bought some at 1'95 just before close. Will sell on a bounce, regardless.

Stops triggered IMO

Listen to those who have been correct consistently, not those who are wrong despite of what one thinks or feel. Market price is always correct.
Most are holders so will be biased despite the bickering.
My view still stands..till it becomes deep value or if/whenthe company changes.

Why can't shorts closing spike prices? If one entered 1 million to close a short in UT at limit on order book or tell a broker to get out regard regardless, it would swipe the offer on the order book down till it gets filled, pushing up the final price. Calls will have the same effect as it is essentially buying at specific prices.
Market orders are the first to get filled then, limit orders will get filled until satisfied.
Agree falklander, here to be profitable. A good call is the correct call. a £5 profit is better than a loss.

Sold at 2.13 Bought at UT yesterday.

Bought some in UT for a quick trade in UT
:-)

Holders, do listen to both side of the argument rather than the one you prefer at your peril.
As i said trade it and take profits quickly if you do. Stocks can get cheaper and cheaper.
Easy to saybut rather harder to do, but the trick is to buy a stock getting more expensive rather than trying to catch a falling knife , leave the bottom to the risky or lucky and leave the bottom to them. Hope onto a rising trend.
This is a dire company that can swing into a loss if it carries on for a few more years plus a ton of legacy burden but hope the management can turn things round. Follow the trend.
Good luck

is an indication of current or historical value.
As a rule with companies and funds, if prospects are bright and on trading on track in a good environment it trades usually above NAV in anticipation of future growth. If the reverse is true it trades below NAV.
You can work out for yourselves.
My view remains unchanged unless there are signs of changes undertaken bearing fruits. Share price is around 5% lower from days ago factoring in the dividend cut expected. What PI hold think is irrelevant, the share perform is the test on reflection of co performance.

If you must. I do not see any cheers of joy here. Just a short squeeze.
Dividend cuts, burning cash declining profits.
Do take profits when you can.
Competitive pressures.
Hopefully they can stem and reverse the trend and create a base

Styd, not quite.
Can place limit orders or fill at market. If a huge sale/s orders come in it will take out the market orders and the limit orders till the numbers/criteria is filled. I did think about but refrained from buying a few in UT.
I suspect maybe bad news imminent, New ceo throw kitchen sink into get rid of the baggage to start on a new sheet? Who knows

low close indicates sales orders swamping the order book swiping the bid down the order book to get filled

Looks like selling ahead of results, a good one will produce a squeeze.....:-)
All a gamble

Sailed , fine.
Does not matter to miss the bounce/recovery as a good co has a long rally, leave the first 10% to them.
Remember a stock that has lost 50% needs a 100% rally to recover.