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At the risk of being accused of trying to burst a balloon I'm curious as to where the growth is coming from at BT.

There's def some merit in what you say about investors bailing. But if you don't have the stomach or think you can make money elsewhere I suppose selling out is peace of mind and I understand that. I'm personally down about £1.6k without factoring in the divi payment with a 17000 plus holding.But did buy some ex div on the way down and don't feel too bad as I bought with income in mind (although of course it is nice to see the underlying sp steady) and want to top up if it falls further. I guess if the knockers keep at the divi sustainability it might spook more.

I don't think there is any conspiracy ,but there is an open secret that MM's do play games to their advantage. as do shorters…….. If private investors had the sort of real time info that some have it might be a level playing field,but most of us know that the dice are loaded so take our chances anyway.

But that is the point he isn�t doing the job. If say the skill set was less revolving door of ceo�s and more skllled actual hands on of say accountancy or measurable say to day work then perhaps you would have a point. He has directors and they report and delegate down. The problem is that the company as a whole has made a pigs ear of a monopoly. It has sat idle and let others steal the lead and literally been made to retrospectively make adjustments. Any decent ceo would have led rather than followed. However I�m pretty certain that everyone has the ability to take their salary, bonus, pension and then hop off to the next revolving door ceo job.

Actually I had forgotten the 10 for 1 share split. I read a piece on Morning Star and had to agree with everything that was written and it made no sense to buy. Still so many shares make no sense to buy yet they defy financial logic.

I'm guessing we won't be getting any kind of deals like that anytime soon in the UK. I was looking at spending 6 months a year in Italy and one of the things I looked at was mobile v fixed line. Even a few years ago the mobile deals compared to the UK were spectacular.

I suppose I deserved that looking at this board. Lesson learnt ask a twat, get a twat answer. Only looking for a sensible answer not some pub philosophy or guarantee of direction.

Could this go sub 60?

Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see what the attraction is of this share. Still mostly owned by the taxpayer, no divi, big as yet unconfirmed final amount from the US justice dept of the �5 billion fine and a further �1 billion plus on legacy issues.

Is the current malaise due to the debt RNS or it simply a crappy share now.Surely the lower the SP the more ridiculous the divi looks.

Then why not use social media to chitter chatter.

I pretty much agree with you but would never miss what I see as an opportunity to make a profit. I look forward to the next year and then beyond.

I was really only comparing the initial rises between the two issues. I bought in at issue the WPCT and sold out at 20% gain as there was nothing in my opinion to keep the price where it was in such short order. I have also bought in at IPO on this one and more than doubled my initial holding since 100 and 103 but again looked at the rise and the similarly additional equity issued for demand as Woodford did. I'd like to hold this for 5- 10 years,but am watching for any sudden declines. I'd rather sell and bank then buy back in than hold and look at a loss for a few years. There were two things that made me watch this closer than I normally would. This was the first IPO I managed to ever get full allocation and would the name Baillie Gifford lure investor as the name Woodford did. I never bought the WPCT IPO on Woodfords past glories as he rode the best period (at Perpetual then Inv Perp) like many others of the stock market. As much as I would like to add more I will wait. I think Woodford has also been a little unlucky and is paying the price for long term or as he puts it patient.

I wonder if the rise is another Woodford type one where the SP hit 20% plus to IPO then crashed back to earth in spectacular fashion.

Like any other!

I see the SP is being walked down. I wonder if there will be a bounce come Monday after people have bought in at the price they want.

Surely, this prospective purchase of the consumer unit is an admission that the drug division has had its day and that the personal grooming, worried well products are where they see growth in the future. Well, it has been mooted for some time that debt is a future share price killer now with the mass collusion of so called auditors. If anyone needs depressing then a trip down memory lane for the past share prices of BT, GSK, Vodafone.......conveniently they fall outside of the 10 year charts of performance comparisons when looking back. Still, if the divi is maintained then that is some comfort for long term holders.

Morgan Stanley Equal Weight 1400 Liberum Capital Buy 1630 Exane BNP Paribas Neutral 1560 I'm sure there are many on here who are old enough to remember when they were at primary school and used to talk cobblers in the playground about footballers, their skills, how many goals they would score......Whenever I read these broker forecasts it reminds me of those times,but we were 10 years of age. Does anyone know where you can get these jobs? LoL.

A much needed laugh with the rennie quip.

Which way will the share jump now with GSK seeming to have the deepest pockets.