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There is good old Brid trying to "clean up" Ireland by banning oil and gas and the government cannot even ban smokey coal. The coal people say they'll go to court unless the government bans wood and peat as well.

Reminds me of the old children's song "The north wind doth blow, And we shall have snow, And what will the robin do then? Poor thing. He'll sit in a barn, To try and keep warm, And hide his head under his wing, poor thing".

Very soon the only thing left to warm the people will be Brid's hot breath.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/plan-for-nationwide-ban-on-smoky-coal-threatened-by-legal-action-930157.html

It would not be libel but breech of contract which is far more serious.

Remember, every license that is issued has a cost associated with the granting and then there is an annual charge to keep it in place unless the licensee relinquishes it. So legally once there is an exchange of money for the licenses you could not terminate them without serious financial repercussions and humongous penalties. No license is free as each has charges paid to the government.

If the government did enact this bill the legal profession would be licking their lips, like lions with a kill, at the paydays that were coming their way in no-brainer court cases.

One pathetic stupid woman. What bush has she just crawled out of?

Given that there is proven 360m barrels of oil in Barryroe and oil in the ground is valued in the market at $5 a barrel, that means the government would be in the dock for at least $1.8billion and given that Providence have said development costs would be $25 a barrel, which at an average price of say $60 a barrel is a profit of about $12billion which obviously Providence would be suing the government for as well and she thinks she can get that for $250k just shows how she and her cronies live in a fantasy land.

Then you have the breach of contract between APEC and Providence which would have to be paid for and between the jigs and the reels,just stopping Barryroe would bankrupt the country.

And what about IOLAR and CNOOC? What would that cost to stop it if they find oil?

They cannot be so stupid that the do not know all this so I reckon they keep banging this drum so the can make a statement and hope to win a few seats when we have a general election which could be sooner than people might expect.

If she was talking about potential future licenses but allowing all those which have been issued to date she might be closer to the mark.

I suspect APEC have not made the payment because they do no trust the EU and are worried that their lackeys DCAAE who must bow to their demands might find a way to delay Barryroe even further.

That is surely why they are waiting for 14th to see if there are any objections arising out of the latest information demand which has to be in by 13th and whether DCCAE will give its approval. Why would you pay if there were further delays or even a refusal as your money would be tied up?

And if APEC walked away don't you think CNOOC would be into Barryroe like a shot given that it is a proven oil resource and it currently has all the necessary infrastructure and logistics available now that it is drilling IOLAR?

Daddy and nurse back in court.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/companies/sir-anthony-o-reilly-and-former-nurse-get-until-next-week-to-agree-legal-path-1.3915724

She claims he promised her $40m in shares, a combination of Heinz and Providence but mostly Providence shares in return for services rendered. What those were cannot be revealed before 2037 as they were "repugnant". I don't think her Providence shares would be worth $40m now if she has suffered like the rest of us.

Perhaps that is why Providence shares have nosedived in the last few days as they are worth far less than they were last week and they have to come to an agreement by June 11th on mediation. By then the shares might be worth even less.

As they say, "beware nurses bearing gifts even if they have soft hands".

You would think the Barryroe survey had been refused or suspended given the fall in the share price.

Obviously there are four things at play.

1 It would be crazy to spend money on applying for a survey approval given the costs associated with the Barryroe farcical approval and even if they applied now for a survey you would not expect a decision before 2020 and a successful Barryroe approval will form the template for this license as well as the approval given to CNOOC who are very much in the same environment and have passed all the requirements to get approval.

2. The chances of success and value will increase if CNOOC are successful and flow oil and gas. If they are not successful then why rush as the same geological structures apply to Dunquin as to IOLAR and failure in IOLAR would just mean the chances in Dunquin would be diminished.

3. The Barryroe approval which hopefully is in its last stages will take up enough of their time to get off the ground, do the survey and get drilling so Dunquin can surely wait.

4. Barryroe must be looking even more hopeful given that they are taking this iron out of the fire leaving Barryroe as their only ongoing activity. Otherwise baby could be spending more spare time sunning himself in Malta.

The following was mixed in with a general report on Irishexaminer this morning.
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This week, amid wall-to-wall coverage of swing falls and green waves and pinks waves, new Green Ireland missed a trick. Legislation to ban the exploration of fossil fuels in Ireland was due to pass through the Houses of the Oireachtas in the next few weeks. However, on Tuesday it was discovered that the Climate Emergency Measures Bill, put forward by opposition TDs, was being put on ice. Why?

Sean Canney, minister of state for natural resources, told opposition TDs that a “money message” was needed before the bill could advance. A money message is a recommendation signed by the Taoiseach of the day, approving legislation that would cost the State money.

Basically, there could be financial implications to the implementation of such a bill, so we are holding our horses. There are now fears, from organisations such as Friends of the Earth, that this entire bill could be killed.

Now, that runs slightly contrary to the remarks from Taoiseach Leo Varadkar last weekend.

“The public have sent us a message which is that they want us to accelerate action on climate,” he said.

“It’s going to require a lot of changes at individual level, community level and also at Government level in terms of policy, but the statement from the public is they are up for that and want us to do it. We are acting on climate but they want us to act faster. We’ve got that message.”

A week is a long time in politics, as they say, but long enough to go the full 180 on a position?
Asked about the stalling of the fossil fuel ban bill, Mr Varadkar played the “sensible” line. He said he wanted to take “serious climate action that works but also sensible climate action”.

“It should be climate action that reduces greenhouse gas emissions, but not climate action that makes us poorer, costs jobs, or threatens our security,” said Mr Varadkar.
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I think Leo has got the message.

I certainly agree with that.

Since DCCAE granted the license last year which EXOLA relinquished they obviously know what was "missing" if anything. And since the only possible outfit to raise a judicial review will be An Taisce they would need to find something new that they missed last year when they raised their judicial review.

But the problem for them would be to ask them "why did you miss that the first time when you raised the original review?"

So, I too agree that once DCCAE gives the approval for Stage 2 there is nothing to stop Providence starting straight away without waiting for the judicial review period.

I don't think we are saying the same thing. Let's be clear.

You say "The survey approval is still subject to Judicial review period and to date PVR haven't had the testiculos to do what Nexen has and plough on regardless. "

CNOOC have a piece of paper from DCCAE called a Determination "a positive decision in CNOOC's favour" dated 17th May 2019 which says they can go ahead and drill the well. However, there is a chance somebody can bring a judicial review within three months claiming that DCCAE were illegal in granting the permission.

EXOLA have a piece of paper saying they have passed Stage 1 approval and are now in the process of proving they have the facts to complete Stage 2. This is currently under review by DCCAE and who have requested the public or another to make comments on the information supplied by EXOLA by 13th June. At that stage DCCAE will give a decision as to whether Stage 2 has also been completed and EXOLA has complied with all the necessary EU Directives.

If it has, the DCCAE will then make a Determination allowing EXOLA to proceed with the survey or asking for even more information before they make a decision. There is no talk of a judicial review until then as the possible judicial review can only arise out of somebody claiming that the decision to grant the survey and the drilling is not "legal" aka the EU Directives. You cannot claim something is illegal until a positive Determination has been given by DCCAE and the green light of "go" is on and that cannot be given before 13th June 2019.

Perhaps you can point me to a positive Determination by DCCAE to Exola to allow the survey and the drilling as it seems I must have missed it as you are so sure it has been given?

So, please get your facts straight. We have to wait until 13th June and then some time until DCCAE decide if everything has been completed to satisfy the EEC Directives 2011 and 2014 and they can then issue a positive Determination allowing EXOLA to proceed.

So, stop putting the cart before the horse. You are not doing Providence or EXOLA any favours.

CNOOC got the all clear from DCCAE on 17th May with the determination statement which you can find at:
https://www.dccae.gov.ie/documents/AA%20Determination%20Notice.pdf

In that notice it says CNOOC can go ahead but it could possibly be hit with a judicial review up to three months from that date. In other words, be it on CNOOC's head if somebody does take a judicial review.

Providence (Exola) has not been given the all clear by DCCAE as per a determination notice. That notice is subject to any objections being raised by 13th June when DCCAE will give such a determination as long as nobody raises any reasonable objections in the meantime. Without a determination notice, EXOLA cannot proceed.

It is a bit like a planning application. You cannot start to build until you have the planning approval document and EXOLA has not got that yet and will not before 13th June.

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In my opinion if the Irish government was to stop every license they would have to pay billions of euros as the licenses they have issued have very specific requirements including the timing of drilling wells to keep the licenses alive. If they prevented the licenses from being allowed the courts would certainly find the government in breach of contract as all licenses granted to date are subject to very legal requirements.

You can read all about the legal requirements and agreements at:
https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/natural-resources/topics/Oil-Gas-Exploration-Production/licensing/types-of-authorisations/Pages/Types-of-Authorisations.aspx

So, not only would the government have to recompense the operators for costs to date as well as opportunity costs but the legal costs of the court cases would be humongous.

As you say, it is interesting that the share price has dipped but that is probably the MMs trying to do some fishing and scaring possible weakies into selling but surely the news from yesterday Regarding the money message as well as the EU backtrack on shares with double listings, which PVR has with London and ISEQ, being abandoned puts PVR in a far better light.

I would expect Providence to now release its end of year after 13th June when the consultation period ends for Exola. There is not much to tell until that is in the clear. That will give it two weeks to get them out since they have to be published by 30th June.

Here is a transcript of what the government said to the Greens.

It is clear they are aware of the potential costs of this bill being passed and why they will not sign a money message.

https://greennews.ie/money-message-sabotage-bill/

Nice to hear Brid howl at the end. Perhaps she can apply for the job of banshee as she heralds the death of her bill.

I can see the faces of Ryan and Smith as they chew their sour grapes. Still, everyone loves a trier. I reckon this is one legal challenge they cannot win.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/oil-drilling-ban-supporters-mulling-legal-challenge-against-state-after-government-blocks-bill-927566.html

The end of year accounts have to be published before the 30th June, less than six months after year end.

Forget compensation. There cannot be any compensation unless the constitution is changed given what it says in Article 17.2 or the Government commits harakiri which I am sure they are loathe to do.

Why do you think Brid and Ryan are jumping up and down like two scalded rats dancing on the hob. It has got too hot for them to handle and they have been scuppered.

I mentioned in a previous item that the government would have to pay severe penalties to exploration companies if they stopped exploration and development of oil and gas in its tracks. At true cost it would come to billions of euros.

Now we have People Before Profit claiming "a little-known parliamentary rule" has been used to scupper its bill aimed at banning oil and gas drilling in Irish waters.

Sorry, it might be a little known rule to them but that is because they forgot to read the Irish constitution where it is clearly stated under Article 17.2 that :

"Dáil Éireann shall not pass any vote or resolution, and no law shall be enacted, for the appropriation of revenue or other public moneys unless the purpose of the appropriation shall have been recommended to Dáil Éireann by a message from the Government signed by the Taoiseach."

Now, the Irish constitution has been around since De Valera wrote it in 1937 and at times it has been like a straitjacket but " Amendments to the Constitution of Ireland are only possible by way of referendum." and where De Valera wanted the country to be populated with "comely maidens and athletic youths".

So, how is it that the "Reds" who want to turn Ireland into a social country, grab assets and not pay for them missed that? If anybody can find a copy of the Irish constitution on the internet how come they missed it? Because they shot their mouths off without reading it and some clever government lawyer remembered it.

And given that it is so specific what chances have they of getting it repealed in an Irish referendum? Do you not think we have had enough of those over the years on far more important issues than this?

Put that in your pipes, Ryan and Smith, and smoke it. There is no way that a judicial review would ever take their side. The judiciary uses the constitution all the time when it comes to making legal decisions so the chances of going against it is nil.

Its a bit like the Pope who is "infallible", i.e. cannot tell an untruth, when he opens his mouth regarding "faith and morals".

As the old geometry saying goes: Q.E.D.

Smith, Ryan et al still moaning about the CNOOC license.

The following well argued article should be stuck on their toilet seats for them to read.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/offshore-drilling-is-energy-backstop-926827.html

When will they ever learn that beggars cannot be choosers.

Assuming that CNOOC's well in IOLAR is equivalent to Providence's drilling of Druid/Drombeg we should now expect a result somewhere around the end of July as it took Providence 62 days to find out that Drombeg was wet.

If Exola can get agreement on 13th June and it starts the survey we might have Barryroe flowing oil by the end of September as long as there is not another delay while they get permission to drill.

Update 28 May, 2019 - Appropriate Assessment Public Consultation

On 16 May, the Department published the additional information received from EXOLA DAC on its website and the public was invited to make observations thereon during a 21 day consultation period for the purposes of the Stage 2 Appropriate Assessment of the application.

It came to our attention on Thursday 23 May that there was a problem accessing the documents on the consultation page. The error was rectified on 24 May. Please note that the consultation period has been extended to 13 June, so as to ensure that a 21 day consultation period will apply. Any submissions received during this time will be taken into account as part of the Appropriate Assessment of the application.

So we are now onto the 13th June.

It is clear that CNOOC did not wait the three months having started its drilling within days when it received final clearance by DCCAE on 17th May. Good for them.

In 2015 we were warned that Ireland is facing an energy crisis.

"Energy is not one of Ireland’s strengths: we import almost 90 per cent of our power, we’ve made little progress in renewables, and we’re at the mercy of an unstable global market. Where will Ireland get its energy in years to come? "
Next year will be crunch year for Ireland and carbon credits. Starting then, Ireland will have to pay €150m a year increasing to €600m by 2030 and then up to $2billion by 2050 unless we go green which is nigh impossible.

On top of that Ireland currently imports fossil fuels at a cost of €5.7bn a year.

Now I know Brid Smith is a bit of a witch and perhaps she has a magic wand to wave all these away but just in case she is all mouth perhaps she would tell us how all of this is going to be paid for.

Here is Ireland with the potential to develop its own oil and gas to supplement efforts towards green energy and she would prefer to pay Russia but not those nasty Americans with their fracked LNG, instead of developing our own. Some wires crossed between her and her friends' minds coming out through their collective mouths, I fear.

I hope they fire ahead like CNOOC.

On the other hand, if CNOOC are successful in IOLAR, they will not lose anything if they wait for a result from there.

DCCAE owe Providence a favour because it withdrew the first application to save DCCAE's face and the minor transgresssions, if there were any in the first approval must surely now be well sorted so it would take something frivolous from An Taisce to carry out another appeal which will not be cheap and the big mouth in AnTaisce, Ian Lumley, is currently occupied sorting out his planning permission refusal.

We seem to be getting closer but I hope it is not one step forward and two back.