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Thanks Tony - interesting reading - I had read this before and thought it made sense until I asked the question - how does the price go down 5% with no trading and no “NEW”news - this is the crux of my actual question

Thanks for your opinion- it’s a valid one and I think you are probably right but again … it’s a guess right ?? As in “your honest opinion”… but you really don’t know for a fact because you are. as we all are ..hoping that to be the truth - what I’m asking is -what actually makes the price move from say 10 pence to 11p pence - does an algorithm occur or does a person turn the knob - think about it at what point does the number change - regardless of news or lack of it - what actually is the thing that changes the price - is it a decision by a person or is it a preset mechanism that ratchets the price when x amount of shares are bought or sold - it seems to be a simple question with a complicated answer- I want a factual answer - if anyone actually ever worked in the industry can you please let us know - it would drastically improve our chances a making a good trade !!

In investing, fair value is a reference to the asset's price, as determined by a willing seller and buyer, and often established in the marketplace.
Fair value is a broad measure of an asset's worth and is not the same as market value, which refers to the price of an asset in the marketplace.

This was a coppy and paste ( hence no spelling errors)
When eventually we get to said fair value price the “experts” will let you know - even though we have all just watched the price like vultures for months- I would suggest fair value is always the current price- what they should call it is “sucker price” it’s a headline to make you buy!

Don’t expect a real answer here !!!!

Ha very true . It still didn’t answer the question- I’ve been trading over 15 years and no one has ever given me the answer - to what I believe is a very basic question. But it still remains… is it literally some person in a room who comes back after a fag break and says nyaaa think I’ll alter the price now - is that what’s happening- or is it an actual system- cos it never seems to make any Effin sense to me !!!

What I’m asking is - physically why does the price change who physically changes it - I mean it doesn’t change when “X “ amount have been sold at “Y “ price and therefore the next batch of shares are due to be sold at “Z” .. it just seems that some random person says .. oh I think I’ll change the price now - it does not not appear to be based on any buying or selling power - it feels to me like we are all just hoodwinked into thinking the price of a share actually reflects the market when in fact it seems to be actually at the whim of some faceless market maker - is this how it works ? So it has nothing to do with supply and demand in a free market ??

Cider- thanks - I agree on the most part- but doesn’t that make us all a bit stupid .
I mean we all like to think we know what the companies we invest in are up to by doing our due diligence etc .. but if at the end of the day we don’t know the full story because trades are hidden from us mere mortals and it’s all “a bit Wild West “then doesn’t that make one stop and think we must all be a bit mad
To invest blindly- I was of the opinion that when i hear investors talking about this information or that research they sound so professional and sure of how the investment will play out that they are willing to put seriously large sums of money in the market and you are telling me that those same people are resigned to the fact that they understand they can only know half the story because the market is corrupt-
Is this really what you are saying ????

You are missing my point - I understand me
Yes yes .. the price is down it’s a buy opportunity- I get that . What I asked is why is price down if sales are up and news today is no different.. what do you suppose makes the share price 5% down - it’s a simple question.. however I doubt many have the actual answer - please don’t reply if you don’t know - I do agree fill yer. Lots while it’s down blah blah .. I’m just a twit asking if anyone actually knows why we are down not up - as it seems supply and demand is not the driving force - please real answers not just sound bites - we can all do that !!!

# of Trades 119
Vol Sold 1,065,849
Vol Bought 1,102,795
52 Week High 16.40
52 Week High Date 05-Jul-2021
52 Week Low 3.65
52 Week Low Date 05-Oct-2020

NOTHING changed from yesterdayToday 14:42
More shares bought than sold today - no new information good or bad has been issued yet the SP is 5.8% lower - so it can only be manipulated- the price reflects absolutely nothing of the market sentiment - can anyone explain why this happens - obviously supply and demand is not the driving force neither is news - so WHO exactly turns the dial and decided that we should have our SP set to the price we have before us …. Does anyone actually really know - I’d love to know the answer if anyone REALLY understands why we are where we are ?!!

More shares bought than sold today - no new information good or bad has been issued yet the SP is 5.8% lower - so it can only be manipulated- the price reflects absolutely nothing of the market sentiment - can anyone explain why this happens - obviously supply and demand is not the driving force neither is news - so WHO exactly turns the dial and decided that we should have our SP set to the price we have before us …. Does anyone actually really know - I’d love to know the answer if anyone REALLY understands why we are where we are ?!!

Well that will be the big order they were shaking us for I would imagine !!!!
Onwards and upwards!

My point being we’re not liquid enough for them to bother selling now - they have bought in at a good price - they are going to wait for a serious increase in sp before selling off .

Pretty sure large Institutions didn’t sell off and re buy shares - I think we have a larger buy order to fill and the wise guys are turning small investors upside down to relieve them of their shares to fill the order - their were lots of good buys yesterday- and only a third of sells - I really cannot imagine larger institutions- messing about with huge volume of stock in such a way

RNS sounds like good news but to the layman it just sounds like they have actually just got the machine working properly for the first time — lol ;@)

Was that your 400,000 new shares just gone through ?

oh yes it does !!

Any day now we could go boom .. is this your lucky day “PUNK”

LGO ?? Me too .. that lenigas has a lot to answer for !

I bought gulfkeystone for 4 p sold for 22p made 24k watched it for to about £2.50 before I stopped looking , been chasing the rainbow ever since :@(