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Its difficult to find any evidence the boiler ever existed in a production form. Let alone in November 2014. Its a mythical object. A domestic boiler for Christ sake that has never been seen and seems highly unlikely to be a production reality. A court would simply ask "where is it then?"
http://marcogaz.org/downloads/Session2/BAXI%20INNOTECH_Heating%20and%20Electricity%20today%20and%20tomorro.pdf Proper honest and transparent performance overview and reporting on mCHP development. Notice how Ecogen had alpha, beta and pre-series releases prior to the series (production) release. A template and example of mCHP development to production using industry standard terms and process.
Why not post as magian or maajyd pop?! Or have those accounts been suspended too? Perhaps they have been laid off??
Hi NiKI...I agree wholeheartedly. Thing is, its not like Flow has been your typical oil exploration or biotech sham....its so blatant and easy to prove. Hard faced and Shameless or stupid???
How are you contacting ex employees to ask questions then ? LinkedIn messaging. The first one I contacted was willing to provide a statement and did so. Haven't contacted any since. No need.
Even so, the true character of this company and its BoD has unfolded. No one can have any doubts they have been had.
Of course,the domestic mCHP was explored and properly released by Baxi, who wisely selected the most cost effective easily realized solution to extracting waste heat by using proven sterling cycle machines, which are relatively cheap and easy to manufacture compared to the tiny scroll the piece of shit Flow boiler is alleged to have had. Baxi realized even at that manufactured cost, there was no market. The superior minds at Baxi withdrew the product. The dimwitted Flow told the market all was well....You couldn't make it up!!" You wonder what Palm were thinking. You wonder what they thought when they realized the boiler was a total crock of shite.
I have a statement from an ex-employee and when I get around to it will be looking into potentially starting a facebook forum for investors, but need to ascertain the implications prior to the course we are following. Some avenues of enquiry are happy to discuss whilst some don't want to get involved. I have yet to see any evidence a fit for purpose boiler ever existed.
Anyone ever wondered why Baxi, Potterton, Valiant and especially Bosch didn't release into volume production a scroll based ORC mCHP?? Given the idea is so old? Especially given their proven design and manufacturiong experience and capacity in dometic boilers? They only had to develop a scroll....
Any chance of speaking plain English and not shit? I assume you have met with Stiff?
Not yet, yes.
Who is Adrian Black and as mere shareholder with a miniscule holding, how did the other board members come to be in a position to find you "too demanding"?
Just out of interest Popgoestheweasel, have you approached any other companies and bizarrely asked if you can be a board member???
CAPENHURST CULPABLES....who cost you and made you look like a gullible mug with an inferior mind!!! Entertaining. But as with all things connected with the piece of shit that is Flow, likely bullshit and lies.
"Ego and incompetence the like of which I have never seen in my career or could have imagined possible"
Hinderton drive states "You really couldn't make it up".....which is exactly what most people thought when Stiff announced production of a "gamechanging" scroll based ORC mCHP boiler. When it never appeared, then it became likely it really had been "made up". So the case for fraud was gathered, and I have presented to the SFO,Action Fraud and the Police. Reporting Fraud to Action Fraud takes some patience, but is worth doing if you feel you have something worth investigating. Of course, any evidence can also be used and disemninated for the purposes of personal and group legal action.
The beautiful life of words - what they show and what they conceal. Except when they are unambiguous. "Initiating production is clearly the most significant achievement to date for the Group. 10 years of development culminates in this moment, where the first production of the Flow boiler rolls off the production line" If the production model was a non functioning prototype, and no boilers "rolled off" the production line, as per the statements made by ex-employees, please enlighten the group on any ambiguity and the defence you re forwarding? The employees statements are no more opinion than the fact no "production" boilers have been seen.
Burglars and rapists are unregulated and behave as they wish, but are, like all activities in this country, subject to English law, and feel the full force of it. There is nothing besides innocence that can protect the defendant of a crime he is accused of. In this case, it is alleged fraud has been committed because individuals benefitted financially from making statements that were misleading/untrue. Specifically that the production boiler that was announced in November 14 wasn't a production boiler at all, but a merely another development prototype. This allegation is based on the fact no boilers have been seen or heard of, despite it being "gamechanging"