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What do you reckon then pop, a statement form an ex-employee, the RNS stating production had begun, followed by an RNS stating the production had been increased from 360000 to 500000 and then the non-appearance of the boiler or any evidence it worked. No installs, no trial results, nothing. On the balance of probabilities, how would you find if you were the judge? Or would you just waffle shit?

4) Will a defendant be ordered to repay me my money? In civil proceedings a successful victim may obtain an order that the defendant repay the money/assets taken and or pay damages to the victim. It is possible very quickly to obtain judgment/reach settlement in certain circumstances, e.g. where you have very strong evidence against the defendant. If the defendant is convicted, the prosecuting authority can seek a compensation order against the defendant; this requires a convicted defendant to pay compensation to his victim(s). (This should not be confused with a confiscation order which requires a convicted defendant to pay the amount of his benefit from crime to the government, not the victim.)

3) What sanctions can be imposed on a defendant? In civil proceedings a successful victim may obtain an order that the defendant repay the money/assets taken and or pay damages to the victim. There is no sanction by way of punishment. Depending on the offence for which the defendant is convicted, the court in which he is convicted and the value of the fraud, a criminal Judge can impose a prison sentence of up to 10 years and/or an unlimited fine.

2) Is there a difference in the burden of proof in civil fraud and criminal fraud matters? In civil proceedings the burden of proof is on the victim to prove �on the balance of probabilities� that the defendant committed the alleged fraud. In criminal proceedings the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove �beyond reasonable doubt� that the defendant committed the alleged fraud.

1) Is there a difference between civil fraud and criminal fraud? There are many differences, but in short civil fraud is pursued by the victim(s) by way of a private action in the civil courts to seek recovery of the sums/assets which have been taken and/or the payment of compensation/damages to the victim(s). The decision in a civil trial will be made by a Judge. Criminal fraud is a criminal offence which will be prosecuted by the prosecuting authorities (If the prosecuting authorities are not prepared to bring proceedings, in certain circumstances an individual or an entity can bring a private prosecution in the criminal courts against a defendant (and in respect of other offences)). In the criminal courts (Magistrates� Court or Crown Court) with the sanctions likely to be a fine and/or imprisonment. The decision in a criminal trial will be made by a jury.

Is that supposed to be intimidating? that you were "watching me"?

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/services/department/dispute-resolution/civil-fraud-and-investigations/fraud-civil-vs-criminal-faqs#1

What could be "made up" is an RNS statement about production boilers. This would constitute fraud. So given the boiler was never seen, its logical to conclude the boiler was indeed a farce. It follows then, given the company is now a shell, that the only people posting on here are: 1) Persons investigating the company and its BoD building a case against former BoD members. 2) Ex-employees clearing their guilty conscience and blowing the whistle. 3) Ex-employees bitter they didn't stay on the gravy train longer. 4) Partners/personal acquaintances of BoD with axes to grind. 5) Suppliers blowing the whistle. 6) 3rd parties privy to inside information that the boiler was a sham 7) Those who may have personally profited from insider information who feel a duty to defend as a re-payment of favour. 8) Partners/personal acquaintances of BoD who still actually believe the BoD were proper real business people and professionals and feel the need to defend 9) The mildly eccentric deluded lonely nut cases. 10) Ex BoD members sitting on investors cash laughing and taking the proverbial. This list is not exhaustive. Which are you?

Yes guilty as charged..the facebook suggestion was mine. But given my linkedin contact has "sung like a canary" I have no need to gather evidence. I might still set up the page though. Reckon all the other ex employees will also sing. Get their dirty little secrets off their chest. Catharsis. Facebook might have a use after all.

But you are aware plane crashes are usually attributable to human error and if that error is in fact a deliberate act then liability arises? Both Criminal and Personal? You ask me to be "a bit sensible" but then tell me to "get on with it" (which, make no mistake, we are getting on with it). Contradictory. I could tell you to be sensible by not defending such a blatant sham and then wondering why people think you are an ex-BoD who personally profited from this. Tell me pop, do you think "balance of probability" has any standing in an English Court?

popgoestheweasel....given you have been had off and made to look a gullible mug, why not start a facebook page or contact the ex-employees and explore an action to recover your personal losses?

External reports, presentations and drawings...all with differing dates, All at the latest issue pertaining to November 2014. All admissible.

An ex-employee has stated on these boards "it never existed as a production model, only as a poorly functioning prototype" I have a statement from an ex-employee stating the same. The boiler never appeared and has never been seen. Conjecture over. Speculation replaced by statements of fact.

You can try Action Fraud or call your local Police and insist on a crime number proving you have reported a crime and are not complicit.

The Jan and Don report clearly states the boiler was not production viable, they stated it needed months of internal testing and should not be sold. This information is clear in the report...my source has a report proving the boiler wasn't viable that pre-dates this.

Fraud is a criminal act and as such should be reported the Police. Knowledge of a criminal act without reporting it may have implications for you.

"I have no plans to do anything. Should a court case arise, I am certain I would be called to present any information I have, which I would do"....if you have evidence that fraud has been committed, you need to call the Police. You have a legal obligation to do this.

I have a written statement stating the boiler was not fit for production in November 2014 and that RNS was misleading to state that "production model" boilers were "rolling off" any production line. The boiler in 2014 was a prototype. Such is the shortage of white collar legal professionals there are plenty of practices looking to give new lawyers an easy case. The cast iron evidence supporting all of this is the fact not one boiler has ever been seen. Further evidence is the low likelihood of being able to manufacture the scroll Stiff presented. Stinks of Fraud. As I say, low hanging Fruit. Clear Cut. I put it to you the RNS was misleading to up the share price for the financial benefit of the BoD....prove otherwise. History reinforces this.

The Flow website seems to have disappeared. Ceased Trading?

Better stick to "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". Tiddly om pom pom.