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In your stupid terminology. Shiny, you say I am a trader and that I flip flop to suit.

I've asked you, I've asked ALBM and I have asked the chief of the nutjobs to give me a single example of anything I have ever posted that has been either wrong or unreasonable on multiple occasions.

No response ever, not one. And there's a very good reason for that because there is no such post.

If you really are stupid enough to think that there are no potential negatives around the company's prospects that are worthy of debate you are more stupid than I think - which would be a remarkable status to achieve.

You, presumably , believe that negative posting on here has a direct impact on the share price. But he most prolific posters are positive and brook no discussion. Why don't theie postings affect the share price - because, demonstrably, they don't.

There was a brief moment where this thread involved some grown ups talking about issues related to the company in which we hold an investment. But then the usual suspects got involved and that was the end of that.

'targeted psycholgical warfare'? For discussing the valuation applied to the sale of a company with which we are very clearly in competition with?

Good lord, the lunacy runs deep. And as for this Shiny charicature who has popped up with nothing to contribute bar bluster and idiocy. Words fail really.

In the unlikely event that you are still here, W4ttsy, I was going to say that although the two companies are not directly comparable there are enough common factors between them to make their respective/relative valuations not entirely irrelevant.

But clearly that reasonable point will get lost in a sea of invective and nutjobbery - and that's before the main protagonist has even got i

Just under 9x 2026 expected revneue, but with some contingent on meeting targets

https://renewablesnow.com/news/ballard-seals-gbp-329m-deal-to-buy-uk-hydrogen-power-firm-geopura-1296954/

I'd hope our revenue would accelerate a little during the rest of this financial year (ends October). Let's be generous and say £1m in total. Clearly negligible in this context and impossible to have a sensible guess at a 2027 target at this stage but certainly needs to gear up and show real promise for the long hoped for exponential growth beyond that to get the valuation up to anywhere near where we'd want it.

It's a big few months coming up

Anyone worked out what historic/projected revenue multiple they have sold out for? Aldebaran?

Go on then Shiny, I'll ask you the same question that your mate can't answer.

Can you show me anything I have ever said that is wrong or unfair?

You could jab a compass into your head repeatedly and you'd still completely miss the point

And as night follows day....I'm not forgetting anything you fool.

I'm posting factual information - which you claim you like. Only when it suits!

I'll ask you yet again - am I wrong? My post is based on how it is today and literally says that we have reasonable expectations of progress. It's hardly trashing the stock, is it now?

#nutjob

If people actually discussed things here it would be better for all involved - knowledge is power etc.

But sadly that just doesn't happen. If it isn't STF(u) going off on some mad tirade it's ALBM just blithely ignoring posts that, in a very civilised way, point out basic errors in analysis and assessment - like mine 4 posts below does.

It's a shame really, but it's how it is.

You state, ALBM:

with authorities having recently granted H-Power official approval to sell cracked hydrogen, the company enjoys a massive cost advantage over the Ballard/GeoPura model.

That is not the case, yet. The approval (RNS below) relates specifically to the hydrogen produced by the pilot cracking plant at Dunsfold. So maybe a cost advantage there right now but we know that the volumes, sold to Protium, are small.

https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AFC/ea-allows-afc-to-sell-hydrogen-produced-by-cracker-jm7fhihdolvjx8n.html

Presumably the Hy5s will need their own approval, CE marking I imagine, before they are properly available for commercial sale and at that point we hope (and reasonably expect) that we will maintain that cost advantage at real commercial scale.

This isn't in any way negative but we are clearly not able to compete with Geopura at this point, and that's fine for now. Ballard aren't enormous - market cap less than £1bn but presumably they see a way of enhancing Geo's offering to make the acquisition worthwhile

Attracting a new and apparently credible chief engineer is clearly a positive. Maybe the man to squeeze the kit into a container

That's about the size of it Amusementnow. We have appeared to have first mover advantage several times in the past but have achieved nothing. We hope this time it's different, of course, but it's pretty clear that in some key areas Geopura, for one, have nipped ahead.

I wouldn't mind him pointing out anything I have ever said that isn't true or reasonable. As opposed to the man, many, things that he has, ironically, stated as facts that have been nothing of the sort. That question has been asked multiple times and has never been answered. Because it can't be.

The man who clealry believes that his evangelising on LinkedIn makes him a key member of HPOW's Business Development team, thinks I have Walter Mitty like charatceristics? Remarkable.

To be fair, Hicon, ALBM does at least acknowledge that it is a high risk investment. Unlike the other fella who thinks it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

I've freed up a little cash as I thought the fall on the results was overdone - but I won;t be adding while the spread is a full penny

Nobody is dismissing them.

But they have proven very little thus far - that's fine for this long, nature of the beast, but we need actual progress soon.

The Protium deal is commercial to a point but nobody is getting excited about selling that quantity for that amount of money.

We HOPE that HPOW solves that problem. AS yet we simply cannot be certain of that.

It emphatically has not yet crossed into commercial application.

The TAMGO order is for demonstration usage to drive demand form their client base. Their client base has yet to demonstrate actual demand.

Units currently out with Speedy clients have not been supplied on a commercial basis as they were stupidly expensive and are now obsolete.

It's just as well we are debt fee because we certainly couldn't service a debt!

And we still have a single institutional shareholder (which is carrying a significant paper loss I am sure) above the disclosable level so nobody is making a massive investment commitment yet.

Of course there are grounds for optimism, which is why I am here. but for anyone to claim this is a sure bet is just silly.

Of course history matters.

As Nick Walker has said many time the history of hydrogen getting off the ground as a mainstream energy source is littered with promising ventures that have never quite made it to genuine commerciality. At the moment HPOW is very firmly in that category so when absolute lunatics like STF come on here day after day proclaiming that world (and wealth) changing success is an absolute certainty then a nod to history is very much a sensible approach.

And as is so vividly evidenced by the languishing share price the market agrees.

I think the element of the road map that we are most interested in is the naming of, and the confirmation of real progress to commerciality with, the S&P partner. Last I recall we were told that may come sooner rather than later and perhaps sooner than previously indicated.

But it hasn't.

Given the history of this company I can't understand how anybody might not be a little concerned about that, particularly, as W4ttsy pointed out, the references to the relationship in the interim results update were less than detailed and even a little equivocal.

And no, you nutjob, we are not the same person. Just having the ability to actually string coherent sentences together does not mean we are not two individuals with valid concerns.

One really has to wonder (while shaking one's head in bewilderment) about this weird character's motivation.

He claims that his multiple repeated links to often way out of date items are designed to help new investors. That's not the case as providing such info but refusing to brook any debate about it is very unhelpful.

His refusal to countenance any risk/doubt about the company's prospects is definitively unhelpful as the purpose of a messageboard is generally to share views and develop knowledge.

His ludicrous posing (I haven't left a 't' out) on Linkedin (and now apparently under multiple usernames) is true Walter Mitty territory. I think he genuinely believes that he is a real positive force for the company. If we really are relying on fantasists to generate leads the we are very much in trouble!

His aggressive dismissal of anyone who doesn't agree with every word he says as shorters suggest that he truly believes posting on here has a material long term effect on the share price. That's absolute nonsense as the fact that he's posted thousands and thousands of times with nothing but positivity (apart from sulking when he wasn't personally invited to take part in a placing) would be evidenced in the price if that was the case - Sadly we can all see that it isn't!

The only possible conclusion is that he is, frankly, a psychopath. He displays all the signs.

I've reported him several times for using multiple logins which breaches the terms of this site and for making physical threats- likewise. Clearly the firm that runs this site has zero interest in enforcing its own terms. Which is a great shame