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You would think that news on many fronts is 'imminent', but this is Quadrise, AKHM.

I am sure they will cobble something together ahead of the AGM, if at all possible....

Well with that combo, something will smell this Christmas, just like last...

DoN: Thank you, as ever - informed and helpful.

My instinct is that we are so tiny, playing in a market dominated by global giants, and its quite understandable (based more on ignorance perhaps) to think that we will not be able to scale up in a way, or timescale, that will enable us to meet the demand that follows a successful MSC trial and LONO. I, therefore, share the concerns mentioned by others about meeting the potential market head on and in a way that secures their absolute confidence in the fuel and security of supply, but I always just assume that this won't really be our problem anyway. Surely, if we have hit on the cheapest, cleanest transition fuel solution for global shipping, even if the lifespan of such a product is limited as other technologies enable an even cleaner future solution, we will simply be bought out or absorbed anyway?

That's not a question that I am asking you to answer but, rightly or wrongly, it has always been my view...I just cant see the likes of Shell leaving us there for someone else to absorb....and that for me is why QED has so much potential for us all, and why I am still prepared to put up with the interminable, and unbearable pain of seeking "the" RNS every single day!

If only we did make trousers, Prep, at least we may have sold something by now....although I hope that's not what Jason could smell last Christmas...

Oh, FYOZ, stop, think and desist from fighting everyone; I thought we are all on the same team.

Are you telling me that he can't inform us that oil samples have been received form Utah for testing, or a trial date has been agreed for October 15th in Morocco in an interview or post somewhere? I am far from an expert on the law surrounding RNS use, but these 'snippets' are not in and of themselves material news that will impact share price...although I note that you think a few negative posts on LSE affect share price, so perhaps I'm wrong!

I am unfortunately, far too busy to engage with you in squabble, so crack on without resistance from me, if that is your wish.

Rewhbe, on the one hand, you have Fyoz's answer, on another, it rather depends on how you define an update.

As I see it facts are facts. Much of what comprises a QED update is often fact that in itself does not move the needle in terms of revenue, timing, profit etc, but potentially exciting news, useful as a foundation for conjecture: We are delighted to announce formal discussions with X about the potential for using our product in a given environment (say; leisure marine) and some cute open ended statements hinting at our place in a huge and lucrative market place. The Morocco story being a more mature version of the same, fortunately backed up by one small, and eventually successful trial and the Saudi debacle being an example of how it may end.

In sewing these 'seeds' if you will, all the chat that follows on BB's like this germinate and blossom into a sense of genuine opportunity, and all the excitement that brings to investors like me, eager for positive news, revenue and profit.

Statements such as "they're getting on with running our company, for our benefit, and I for one am glad they're concentrating on the task, and not wasting time producing a running commentary for the sake of the doomsters" being an excellent example of blind faith based upon no more knowledge of what is actually being achieved than you or I have.

I don't actually doubt the commitment or effort of the QED team, I do perhaps question their effectiveness, and perhaps choice of which opportunity is most achievable to grow from our very fragile foundations and limited resources.

Beneficial communication for me would be, for example, test results, a start date for a trial in Morocco, receipt of samples from Utah, delivery of an MMU to location Y, an update on what happened in Panama after the rain fell, etc.

Finally, in relation to the quote above, if Jason has time to post about the environmental benefits of our products on LinkedIn (and I am delighted that he does so), he surely has time to engender shareholder loyalty, support and 'team spirit' with small factual updates, particularly as he may need to open our wallets again in the future.

....to finish my waffle; I am far from a doomster, for about fourteen years I have had my money where my mouth is, so to speak, because i believe in our amazing product, and I don't doubt the technical capability of the QED team; I just crave honest, factual and insightful communication. Industry, the environment and indeed we as shareholders will all benefit from our success, but all my beliefs are not basis for blind faith...maybe I'm a 'doubting Thomas'!

Couldn't agree more Wonga!

There may be good reason why they do not communicate at all, but from where I sit, it seems pathetic, and a very poor reflection on QED that they so studiously avoid any form of update or communication with shareholders, many of whom have been so loyal, for so long and lived with almost countless promises broken. It hardly engenders a willingness to offer further support to the company, if it is ever asked for.

Big thanks, as ever, to those who continue to make the time to search out these vital snippets and share them with us...

Couldn't agree more with the sentiment, Semaphor. I have often wondered how it must feel for the entire team at QED, down to the most junior members of staff. To be working day in day out for a team that is perpetually 'on the brink of greatness' but never quite getting there must be draining, exciting and demoralising all at the same time.

I cannot think for a moment that Jason, Andy and the entire team don't all want the same as we do, and I often take heart from the fact that some of the team have been there for so many years and show little sign of leaving; I certainly wouldn't do that for a company in such a perilous state if I didn't continue to believe that something spectacular sits on the horizon....then again, I still play golf after all these years...!

Quite right but we should have been speaking to the Labour party months ago (and may indeed have been doing so). I would think such a meeting must be 'imminent'...

This what it says, SC.... "There are tools for identifying Dark Triad traits, but it is important to recognize that, unless you are also a skilled psychologist, you should not make a diagnosis on your own."

I assume that you are either a skilled psychologist, or you don't really know what you are talking about...

Well it sounds better than analysing 'gaits and balls' for a pastime!

Enriching chat!

Perhaps its a good thing Jason isn't attending....he's too busy getting on with other stuff, with clients who have started to commit and offer the prospect of cashflow. Perhaps the first time we have any lead to swing at all, as far as MSC are concerned.

I agree entirely with you AKHM....I have said before, in 'the other place' that I think Jason's comment about smelling it, before Christmas was just very naïve, and wishful, which is entirely understandable, but....

I know nothing about the oil or shipping industries but I do work in commercial property where everything is contract led, and we are forever working with planning and licensing consents, wayleave agreements and legal anomalies, and everything always takes longer than parties expect them to. Just like securing a planning consent, this will have taken Mac2 time and money. It shows commitment, without doubt, and once obtained, is a green light to proceed, albeit maybe subject to a few other links falling into place. Steady as she goes...!

Yeah, apologies Killjoy, I don't 'bark' at people usually, it is perhaps just that your comment, without the background and at a time that we feel a small sense of euphoria, sounded like one of those pointless and pathetic posts that some people seem to enjoy throwing into the mix.

It probably doesn't help, but I too have been battered by the Saudi and Maersk 'false dawns'....but I am with the others, this does really feel quite different with us not just chasing one single 'pot of gold'.

Killjoy; you're a funny guy, but if you are going to publish such nonsense, at least get the detail right; it would need to be false dawnS. As anyone investing knows, progress is being made on several projects and it is this that which drives the interest in this share....Muppet!

It almost sounds "imminent"....!

I dont know why I cant type F-A-G-I-N in a message...its Oliver Twist, not Stormy Daniels!

either way, they have just relieved us (or most of us) of more of our hard earned and i suspect they will continue to slink off '***in like' to their 'kitchen and bubbles' (made me laugh phlan...), count the pennies and remain silent whilst we are left hanging, guessing and hoping.

some days, i feel like vince, other days i feel like ak and the rest of the time i try to forget it and focus on the day job!

i too work in an environment based on legal contracts (recently completed one with nhs too) and agree with those stating that this isn't as unusual as we might wish, but equally, there does come a point at which experience dictates that if it hasn't happened by now, it probably wont happen at all. i don't think we are anywhere near that at the moment (especially given all the other stuff in the world requiring the gaze of msc) but that sense adds to my wish that jm would throw us a bone every now and then....after all, he could almost taste it before christmas!

Stockcheque, Brian, Haggis, whiskythingy, whateverelseyoumaybe; this is worth a reply, because for the first time in all these years, my thinking aligns entirely with yours.

It is only a hunch, but I actually think the very same, and have thought since it was announced that this cash raise may just have been crafted in a way to reward us all...although it is equally plausible that I have finally lost sight of which way is up with this saga!

Fingers crossed for a truly decent RNS on Monday, if not before!