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Piscator - Hi, I'm not against your view on potential JV or simmilar in Bots. They've had expressions of interest. However, I'm not sure I agree with the view on it being because the assays are really good. I say this as we know they hadn't had them through the lab prior to the JV conclusion and so that's probably happening, plus it's very early on. I suspect interest in the bots asset is about it's prospectivity and location. Especially given the recent transaction in the adjacent area.
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Lol Bilkos, those are the risks when trading some blocks.
I considered it at 29p but decided with the spread and sentiment and anticipated news due I wouldn't. However I had expected a pullback a little today myself, just with the normal cycle of things.
I'll hold mine through any fluctuations.
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Trek, I too was in ARB posting on the quiet board at 3-5p. Then it went to about a trillion posts a day lol.
I also held Novacyt around the pandemic. Few other bio stocks in the US markets in car-t.
Hopefully we repeat it here at Pxc. It won't do an arb as that was totally unique and had massive sentiment due to the market at the time and very few crypto plays. However, as you say, the bond completion will be a significant achievement in these times.
Finding these sorts of stocks is certainly a skill, but holding them when quiet and staying confident and open minded is also critical.
Hopefully we've picked another good one here 😜
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I won't be selling here personally. May consider selling some at 200% profit should we reach that it higher. Simply to release initial capital and keep 2/3 in for longer term.
Will wait and see. Always good to have a plan, but remain fluid in opinion / options.
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Yep. Sounds like all on track.
Everyone has wobbles. I think the error was the drunken announcement Bankruptcy.
Fwiw I agree re battery metals. I was long on lithium but felt the commodity risk was too great as I'm sure battery tech will evolve beyond lithium before full adoption. Or at least it's too much of a risk for a long view for me personally.
That said I believe global electrification is here to stay. I personally decided to not focus on specific manufacturers and felt looking at the supply chain to all is a safer bet. When you look at the less 'at risk' commodities in the supply chain copper IMO is the safest. It's largely irreplaceable. Has suffered from under investment and projection for supply deficit and dwindling stock piles.
So for me, copper is the way forward as a risked investment. I won't go war and peace on why I've chosen PXC as a ccore position but just sharing some topical thoughts.
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Donkey,
Yes I agree the Tingo shares are relevant. Also it unreasonable to deny that the DD was high standard given the situation, as even a cursory glance I gave them initially gave me a viscerally uncertain feeling.
However it is a side show really.
Of course it would be better to have a nice carry value of Tingo on the books; but it's certainly not a core element (IMO) of anyone's decision to invest in ARCM. If we're discrediting their deal on Tingo, IMO with some merit, we have to equally be open enough to give credit for the AA JV. So on balance given the terms of the JV and the fact it centres around the core assets for ARCM I'm fine with it all.
Let's face it. Tingo position hasn't changed. Since the short attack on Tingo they've been effectively written off to my mind.
Last point from me you're stretching with the $6 million. The Tingo shareprice is fractions of $2.
I appreciate I'm wasting my words here as with the JV no longer in doubt you've moved to Tingo. Just sharing my general view.
In a nutshell Tingo was written off in long ago. Isn't ideal, but the JV on the core asset more than makes up for it and is more relevant to today.
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That's not what he said OOL. He said AA can't test their own samples (mark their own homework). In effect it has to be independently tested not by the explorer.
He also made a second point about issuing an RNS about any drill results. In which he said that AA wouldn't normally release the drill results for all their campaigns. However AA have accepted ARCM need to report them as part of their obligations, and therefore ARCM will be given all the results to ensure they can release them. Which has been agreed with AA. Regardless of whether AA choose to release any results themselves.
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Yes same..... I smell it too..🤞🏻
Yes, no point in selling unless forced to ATM so liquidity is / will be very low. Always bodes well when news hits. Personally I don't plan to offload any anywhere near this price. I'm sure some will on news but equally many won't so should help the rise on confirmation/updates.
Takenorisk, that's the entire point of buying stocks like ARCM. The potential risk Vs potential reward.
That risk has been materially improved with this JV.
It doesn't really matter what price people think will happen ATM. Personally given it was already a known deal I didn't expect fireworks on confirmation. It's all about the drill plans, scale up and results.
As you say yourself this could many multiple on a discovery. The odds and timeline of making that discovery have improved. No question. Doesn't mean it's a certainty, that depends on the land. However the land is why many of us are here. Including AA.
What's your long term view in ARCM? Given your short term view is clear.
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Peggy,
I've a decent holding, I post here and I've not lost money....ATM
I believe the direction will trend up over time, what happens in a few days (provided their isn't news to drive a move either way) is largely irrelevant.
Pop back and gloat in 12 months of your right. It's a no win discussion ATM. From either side of the case for our against ARCM
Markets won't base the share price of ARCM on maths. Sentiment will drive volume and the market price.
Clearly it's important to be able to calculate what things should or could be worth but markets aren't rational.
I personally believe ARCM will be a GGP mark 2. Just my view.
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The market has known about the deal for a LONG long time. The markets are generally pretty poor also, so sentiment and money flow is a lot more cautious.
Im not concerned with the market price. I genuinely believe the strength of this deal is overlooked, or dampened by the delays, and the share price will respond in time.
I'm perfectly happy to hold this and I really believe it will provide significant returns for investors. I accept this isn't the view of everyone. No need for a concensus. We all invest our own money and so make our own choices.
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Grenade,
....'the $3.5 million doesn't go to Arc minerals does it, 67% of it goes to their subsidiary.'
No it all goes to Unico and ARCM get 67% of that as they own that much of the JV with Kopara.
Regarding capital concerns I covered that in my other posts but ultimately ARCM have never had greater capital certainty. That doesn't mean they won't strategically raise but any exploration company are bound by those factors.
Lol Bozi. Fair enough 🤣👍🏻
It's not a unique situation for exploration companies. It's a given that they will need to rely on capital raising.
However the deal with AA is amazing and the whole deal does nothing but strengthen the financial position for ARCM. What with the cash payments and the free carry.
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Regarding how ARCM fund other stuff like bots or other acquisitions I think (from memory) the cash payments to the JV total about $14.5 million with the first $8.5 being payable over the first 3 years.
So they will use that, rollover the share options and short term payables. They haven't a plan for a raise imminently but obviously it's possible they will at some point especially if they pursue acquitions. No one can rule that out of course. However, I'd hope they plan to do that on a bit of a higher base price.
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Bozi when you say 'But the point I'm trying to make is that Unico will likely needs funds to contribute towards the JV (maybe not initially but at some point). So in the meantime, how does Arc pay the bills?'
The JV is a free carry for Unico. AA have commited to a shed load of drill spend to earn in up to the 70%. It only becomes a shared money problem at point of discovery and development, but that's a future situation and one I'll be happy to see happen personally..
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