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The EU is far from perfect...but what you don`t hear from the leave bunch is that the UK, being one of the `big 3`, has a massive say in what happens...better to be in pissing out. Giving up a smidgeon of sovereignty or pooling it with the largest most successful trading block gives us more clout, or it did.
The UK has 73 of the 750 members of the EU parliament. It also has a 13% weighting in the EU Council. Those are the two bodies which approve/amend/reject all EU laws.
28 EU countries. Therefore Avg voting power = 3.57%.
The UK has 10%-13%. = 3 times more than the Avg EU country.
3-10 years will be how long it takes to get the FTAs with all the big boys. These shenanigans are just the divorce agreement or withdrawal agreement...Imagine the bun fight over the terms of the FTA when Spain wants Gib, Greece wants it`s marbles back and France wants fishing and to give us Calais back. It`s going to go on and on and on...
Did you know that The Daily Express didn`t give a pay rise to any of it`s employees for 9 years. During that time it suggested that migrants were stealing UK jobs and keeping pay low. The owner paid himself more than c£350m during that same period.
1. No deal brexit isn`t just a disaster it`s catastrophic. For many reasons not least to farmers, small and medium sized manufacturing and indeed EU centric companies.
2. We were not flourishing prior to joining. We were certainly flourishing in May `16 and before.
3. Migrants havn`t done as you said, that is a tired lie repeated 24/7 by the likes of the DM, Sun and others.
4. You can`t see anything wrong with it because you`ve havn`t opened your eyes.
5. The UK is sovereign
6. The EU is democratic- probably more so than the UK- We tell the EU what to do...Again you just listen to the tired lies and rhetoric from charlatans like Bojo, Rees Mogg and others who are only interested in power for themselves. The EU has PR, the UK has the House of Lords, completely unelected.
7. For sure there probably is a migrant crises across many EU Countries but leaving the EU isn`t going to cure the problem, is it? The UK Gov doesn`t even now implement the EUs own quite stringent rules on freedom of movement of workers.
Why not?
8. Many EU nationals actually work and support our NHS- without them it`d be in even more woe.
9. We trade now with 50 (22 pending) Countries outside the EU through the EU FTAs with them- That 78 Countries.... We lose *ALL* these with `no deal`...That 67% of our trade. It would rip the economy to shreds and for why?...So you can have some ridiculous meaningless soundbite `I have my country back`. It won`t put food on the table...Besides the thought of giving the likes of Rees Mogg, Gove and Bojo slightly more power, are you bonkers?
10. Singapore is the size of the Isle of Wight and they trade banking and services mainly...Funny, that`s what we used to do... £800bn started leaving The UK very recently.
Up 2p...come on Genel.
The problem, well one of the problems is that Vote Leave and those other lot promised something that can`t really be delivered. The EU has stuck to its guns and its freedoms as it said it would. There`s a minority that want no-deal for some very strange and bonkers reason- Why anyone would want to trash the UK economy is beyond me- but hey. And another minority want a softer brexit- IE all the goodies. But actually the majority want to remain in the extremely good deal that everyone agrees we have now.
As Vote Leave broke the law, broke EC laws, made misleading statements, lied and made unattainable promises-in other words cheated. Therefore the referendum should either be revoked or held again. How is holding it again detrimental to democracy bearing in mind the above..It needs someone with a pair of balls to actually stand up and say what other World leaders have been saying for a long time. Delay or revoke Article 50.Why can`t we break 200p? A Seller?Did anyone see that the BB Oil *AND* gas FDP was submitted H2?
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